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NOT GOOD ENOUGH?!?!?!!?

T Mobster

Oct 27, 2008, 11:41 AM
Dan Hesse is huffing gold spray paint it appears....his crappy network who's towers he pawned to get some money to save the company isn't good enough for Android!! 🤣
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Sndmn23

Oct 27, 2008, 11:50 AM
Seriously? A guy named T-Mobster wants to talk about crappy networks? A friend of mine has the G1 and I think it is a really cool looking phone, but he couldn't get his internet to connect when he was trying to show me some of the features. We were in Center City, Philadelphia!

Talk about people in glass houses!
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BigShowJB

Oct 27, 2008, 12:07 PM
Agreed... recently in my area, Everyone with a T-Mobile phone was suddenly without any signal at all. They would call in to T-Mo CS, and they were all told that they didn't know when the signal would be restored. Why is this?

because T-Mobile doesn't even own the spectrum up here. NPI wireless runs the roaming network. many of those people without service now are a) college students, b) don't know that t-mobile doesn't own the network, c) are completely screwed if they have a problem while the service is out, or any combination of the 3.

that is not good enough. Sprint at least has enough coverage in our area if one or two towers have problems
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willv

Oct 27, 2008, 12:26 PM
yeah i would be pretty upset if that happened with my service.
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BigShowJB

Oct 27, 2008, 12:33 PM
the biggest problem is that T-mo isn't going to do anything about it, because it's technically not their spectrum, and customers can't find a number to cal NPI wireless that they can report the outage to.
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geminices

Oct 27, 2008, 12:26 PM
ok. so for the record sprints coverage is mostly roaming agreements, and they actually have less of their own coverage then T-Mobile does.

exhibit A : SPRINTS (NOT NEXTEL) coverage map :

www.cellphonedigest.net/images/sprint1.gif

exhibit B: T-Mobile's coverage map

http://www.gsmworld.com/covmaps/gsma/us/we/comb/0_0_ ... »

granted these are both hard to find online because they don't really want you to know what's theirs and what's other peoples, but for Dan Hesse to denounce the android platform? That makes absolutely no sense. Maybe the licensing costs were more then Sprint's broke self could support for the tech? at any rate they're missing a mint and a goldmine. It doesn't matter how flawless the OS is, the namesake is alr...
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MizzSprint

Oct 27, 2008, 12:30 PM
Yeah, you would post a coverage map from a GSM based site. Get your sources straight, THEN come back.
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geminices

Oct 27, 2008, 12:34 PM
PSST..

I hate to inform you, the information posted for T-mobile IS factual(from a GSM roaming site that covers the PLANET), as is the info from cellphonedigest (which is impartial) which is where I chose to get my post from. I'm sorry you have Sprint. My sources are straight. to which I don't understand your bias..

It's not my fault the facts are the facts. I just don't think you knew, that's all.

*shrug*
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MizzSprint

Oct 27, 2008, 1:02 PM
psst

post a generalized coverage map.

If it's right, I'm sure you would have went and searched online for a generalized website that DOES NOT favor GSM that also proved the same theory. That's like going to a Nissan forum and asking which is better a Nissan or Honda. You're biased website proves nothing. Until you can show the actual coverage map then we'll talk.
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blazeboy

Oct 28, 2008, 1:45 AM
All I know is.I live in the SouthEastern US.Where T-mobile bought out Suncom.I've been with Suncom Since 1999 and thought that T-mobile.Would suck!But being with them almost 2 months now.I realize T-mobile ROCKS!!!They got over 600 towers in my region alone from Suncom!If you people in the North,NorthEast And MidWest.Have crappy service.Just move to Tha Durty Durty BABY!!!!
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SPCSVZWJeff

Oct 27, 2008, 8:08 PM
You T-Mo fanboys kill me.
Yes the world uses GSM in more places than CDMA is used. But let's look at GSM. It is a dying technology like iden. It is not capable of handling the traffic that the future will require and it has dialup like data speeds.
Worldwide coverage is only relevant to the small percentage of people who travel internationally.

GSM is also dirt cheap to install and maintain. That is why T-Mobile is profitable, they don't have the network costs of a carrier with a modern network. They also limit their customers capabilities. Their 3G is a joke. UMTS and not HSPA? The argument should go to a carrier that limits its customers choices by maintaining a low quality network with sub par coverage and appalling in building per...
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geminices

Oct 27, 2008, 9:59 PM
😲

Hold up. I'm not a "tmo-fanboy" I just hate sprint even more. and true it's dying technology, but that's pretty much going to be WIMAX in 3 years anyway.

Seriously, who would (as a badly suffering wireless carrier) decide not to adopt the next global standard for wireless? .... I know they want the instant gratification, but seriously. Sprint is just rediculous.

As to my previous statement, and posts... I am just posting coverage maps. It was completely in relevance to the sprint having more coverage line someone spoke of earlier. I do not disagree they're network is faster, however better? eh.. I suppose it's decent. They just don't know what to do with it. But innately T-Mobile has MORE COVERAGE with THEIR OWN TOWERS then sp...
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SPCSVZWJeff

Oct 28, 2008, 8:04 PM
Their coverage maps do not differentiate native and roaming coverage. In Central Oregon and NorthEastern Oregon T-Mobile shows coverage that is actually Unicel's.
As for owning the towers does it really matter who owns the stick? Not owning the stick means that they can put their antennas on more sticks that they don't have now. They do own the antennas. Many towers exist that they can put antennas on. It was a great business move to sell the towers. Leasing reduces costs and liabilities without reducing service.
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BigShowJB

Oct 28, 2008, 6:59 PM
if you really wanted to be unbiased, you would have posted two maps from the same fully neutral source such as cellphone digest if you could find such a source.
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Sndmn23

Oct 27, 2008, 12:48 PM
Denounce: To condemn openly as being evil or reprehensible.

That's not what happened here. Hesse simply said it wasn't ready and that's mostly because Sprint doesn't have an Android based phone coming out in the short term. Sprint won't be missing out on anything except for the inevitible growing pains that Android will experience. I think Android will be a great platform and Sprint will be a participant in the revolution. It's just not going to happen in the next month or two.

As for coverage. You can site whatever "facts" you like, in my experience, Sprint's voice and data coverage is better than T-Mobile's and it hasn't been close.
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willv

Oct 27, 2008, 12:56 PM
yeah, i have seen t-mobile not work in the middle of a main road. i can understand some houses or buildings, but on the dotted yellow line maybe 1/4 mile from a major highway. thats not acceptable
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tellenerd

Oct 27, 2008, 8:07 PM
are you really serious. how broke is sprint really when we just came out with not just one phone but numerous smartphone and pdas this year.. matter fact the past month vs. tmobile's g1 .... mmmmmm

TMOBILE
G1
sidekick 3 (also no video recording)

how broke are we really

SPRINT
DiamondPro
Diamond
Mogul
Rant
Lotus
Touch
all who by the way have video recording


whos the cheap one really?
tmobile drops quote on quote "the best phone ever" (proclaimed by tmobile)

with no video recording less MB then the mogul (and we all know the mogul has nothing to work with) no notepad, speed dial, no Computer synchronization, no flash, no beam, no voice notes, no predictive text, no to-do list, no dictionary, phone doesnt even co...
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blazeboy

Oct 28, 2008, 1:39 AM
🤤 I like U I think Ur Perddy!
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DiamondPro

Oct 28, 2008, 11:04 PM
Sprint has released more phones then t-mobile this year and will do so next year. Sprint owns Nextel, Boost mobile, parts of Virgin mobile, and Clearwire. Sprint has money in the bank and has just released the best phones to date. The g1 is nothing compare to the Mogul, Centro every carrier has one now except POS t-mobile, Treo 800w, Diamond better than both the g1 and the iphone, and even the Instinct is better than the g1. The Touch Pro will be the best phone u can buy on from a US carrier on Nov 2nd. Sprint is making room for the future with wi-max technology while poor t-mobile is barely getting 3g that's slow as hell wtf. Sprint is also showing how strong they are by releasing Wi-max without help from another carrier and before everyone...
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HawkeyeOC

Oct 28, 2008, 11:33 PM
You have said this over and over and over and over. All your posts are the same
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blazeboy

Oct 28, 2008, 1:36 AM
Lol they alway's say I have a freind who has.Lmfao.I've had my G1 for about a week now.And I live way out in the country and only can get one bar of EDGE.And I personally have'nt had any problems getting on the internet.Albeit a lil slow.It might take a minute or two to watch a 5 or six minute youtube video to load.One word.LIAR!!!
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BigShowJB

Oct 27, 2008, 11:51 AM
it's like answering the question: "why is my deposit so high?"


ALMOST EVERY CARRIER LEASES THE TOWER EQUIPMENT!!!!
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geminices

Oct 27, 2008, 12:34 PM
werd. 😎
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willv

Oct 27, 2008, 11:55 AM
while sprint may have its problems, i think its safe to say their network is still better then t-mobile
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Sndmn23

Oct 27, 2008, 11:57 AM
Yeah. T-Mobile folks get a little 3G coverage (and I do mean "a little")and they get all ****y! 😁

But seriously, I do like the G1.
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MizzSprint

Oct 27, 2008, 12:34 PM
When I had my sidekick the network was horrible. I literally had to hope there wouldn't be any outages. The only thing they would do is give me 50 bonus minutes which didn't matter because I didn't have a voice plan.
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