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92 markets is a Marketing Gimmick - -- It really new

ibnturab

Oct 17, 2008, 2:24 PM
They didn't really expand into 92 markets. They felt stupid releasing the 3g networks in only 25 markets nationwide so they decided to that they were going to count suburbs of major metropolitan cities as 'markets'. So the 10 suburbs of LA are counted and every other large metropolitan city. NOthing is new.
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h_aguilar84

Oct 17, 2008, 2:32 PM
Just curious.... not trying to dispell or disprove you, but what made you to come to that conclusion? And please cite where you got your information.
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I AM GOD

Oct 17, 2008, 2:45 PM
🙄 Prove it.
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Tmo Slave

Oct 17, 2008, 2:51 PM
Another hater
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jacobd

Oct 17, 2008, 3:10 PM
its good that they did, because it puts them on a level ground with the other companies like at&t that also counts suburbs as markets
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amking

Oct 19, 2008, 2:44 PM
all the carriers do this.
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moe777

Oct 17, 2008, 3:19 PM
Anybody has a list of these 92 markets?
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ibnturab

Oct 17, 2008, 4:11 PM
I like tmo so i am definately not a "hater". I got this list[below] directly from t-mobile's coverage site under 3g service on the right side. As far as backing up my statements, its pretty easy to see from the list. For instance, we already know that chicago and suburbs already have 3g. Now they they are doing is actually including the names of those suburbs and are counting them as 'new' markets. For instance Gary [Indiana], Elgin [IL], and Joliet IL are all just suburbs of chicago [which is a huge city by area]. The cities of plano, mesquite, arlington, irving, garland are suburbs of the dallas-fortworth.

What cities are available with 3G service?

Anaheim, CA
Arlington, TX
Atlanta, GA
Atlantic City, NJ
Austin, TX
Baltimore, MD...
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I AM GOD

Oct 17, 2008, 6:16 PM
😕 I live around chicago and I would consider joliet and elgin to be far enough away to be their own market. Also, if they really wanted to stretch it, they would list waukegan, which is covered with 3g, as a separate market.
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Pink Jazz

Oct 17, 2008, 7:20 PM
Still, Albuquerque is not on the list. While I am with AT&T, Albuquerque is mostly a Verizon and T-Mobile stronghold, and it would seem strange that T-Mobile would take much longer than AT&T to launch 3G here, considering that Albuquerque was one of AT&T's first 3G markets after their mass 3G launch. There are still much more T-Mobile subscribers here than there are AT&T subscribers.
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Jayshmay

Oct 18, 2008, 5:56 AM
I noticed both North Las Vegas, and Las Vegas, but Henderson which is immediatly south of Las Vegas isn't listed.
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Jmacattack

Oct 18, 2008, 11:11 AM
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I am not "hating" on T-mobile, but I agree in part with the assessment of this being a bit of a gimmick. I lived in Tempe, Arizona for 10 years, and know that it is just one of the several cities that make up the Phoenix Metropolitan area - with no discernable lines between the cities save for the little green signs saying the city name when you enter them. The following is a list of the Phoenix Metro area cities that are listed as "different" Markets in Arizona, but which are all a part of that Metro group:

Chandler
Glendale
Mesa
Peoria
Tempe
(and of course Phoenix)

This seems to be splitting hairs pretty thinly.

~Jmacattack
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ygbhen

Oct 17, 2008, 4:25 PM
http://www.t-mobile.com/templates/faq.aspx?PAsset=Co ... »

I used this link to find a list of the current cities and there is truth to what he is saying BUT this is the same tactic used by ALL other major carriers. The facts are that in Metro LA there are over 20 cities with populations over 150000 and 5 of them have more than 300000 residents. Why should they not describe Long Beach, Santa Ana, Anaheim, & Riverside as markets when they are larger than many cities/markets on the east coast and midwest? Long Beach for example is larger than Omaha, St Louis, Tampa, Minneapolis, Des Moines, Kansas City (both), Miami, Raleigh, Cincinnati, and I can go on and on. So why not if everybody else is doing the same thing?
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algorithmplus

Oct 17, 2008, 7:03 PM
I think a lot of what you're complaining about actually comes down to way that the government defines a wireless market for statistical purposes. They use this to auction off spectrum, collect taxes, regulate companies, and for other legal purposes. There are MSAs and RSAs, as described below:

Webopedia Says:
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/M/MSA_RSA.html »

Short for metropolitan statistical area/rural service area, cellular service areas used by the FCC to license cellular telephone service. There are 306 MSAs and 428 RSAs. Every county in the United States is assigned to one of these markets.

MSAs -- originally used by the US government for grouping census data -- include cities of at least 50,000 people, or urba
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ibnturab

Oct 17, 2008, 11:14 PM
Based on the definition above, then i would understand how tmo could say that and be right. When i saw 92, i was like 'holy cow' they may have hit the switch to all their areas of coverage or most of them. Then i read the list of cities and realized the painful truth [that it would be 2010 before we see 3g in cleveland]
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