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CTIA 2005

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About "Cingular" on the F7200 screen...

Rich Brome

Mar 17, 2005, 5:40 AM
Like I mentioned for reasons stated in the new Part 2, I complied with LG's request and covered up the carrier logo on the F7200 keypad.

I'm sure some of you also noticed that it said "Cingular" on the display, and I did not cover that up...

That was intentional. It was not an oversight, and is not any kind of "cheating" with LG's request.

The deal is... what a GSM phone says on the screen is not necessarily the carrier that brands and sells that phone. Depending on how the phone and/or SIM chip are configured, the name on the screen is usually that of the carrier that sold the SIM, or the current network the phone may be roaming on.

So the fact that it says "Cingular" on the screen means very little and doesn't necessarily gives...
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Mar 17, 2005, 10:00 AM
Sounds like some sort of conspiracy... Confused lol jk.

How come LG didnt want people to see which carrier the phone was branded by? Thanks in advance Rich.
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Rich Brome

Mar 17, 2005, 11:20 AM
Well, if it was up to them, they wouldn't care. And in some ways, they don't - anyone on the show floor at CTIA could see them plain as day.

But the problem is that carriers these days want to announce phones themselves. Of course, the manufacturer wants to the be the one to announce the phone instead, but the carrier is the customer, so the compromise is that the manufacturer doesn't announce the carrier when they announce the phone early.

The carriers write this kind of thing into their contracts with the manufacturers, so the manufacturer is supposed to keep the carrier part secret. If they let it leak out - especially via an indisputable published photo with a logo - then that "robs" the carrier of the opportunity to genuinely anno...
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lexical

Mar 17, 2005, 5:28 PM
Rich Brome said:
Well, if it was up to them, they wouldn't care. And in some ways, they don't - anyone on the show floor at CTIA could see them plain as day.

But the problem is that carriers these days want to announce phones themselves. Of course, the manufacturer wants to the be the one to announce the phone instead, but the carrier is the customer, so the compromise is that the manufacturer doesn't announce the carrier when they announce the phone early.

The carriers write this kind of thing into their contracts with the manufacturers, so the manufacturer is supposed to keep the carrier part secret. If they let it leak out - especially via an indisputable published photo with a logo - then that "robs" the carrier
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tmojay

Mar 18, 2005, 12:01 AM
T-Mobile is testing Kodiak PTT and not that other popular standard. (i know because of internal communication)

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

although tmo does not and never has used LG. I think maybe they should use LG here or there to expand the lineup and give more choices to consumers.

However, LG seems to only be a mainstay of CDMA carriers, and Cingular.

Will that change?
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Rich Brome

Mar 18, 2005, 2:30 AM
lexical said:
Interesting. Can that possibly mean that Samsung and VZW have a less strict agreement concerning unreleased phones? Because we saw that Samsung was not so shy as to forego the placement of the VZW Get It Now logo on the A970 keypad.

No, I don't think that was intentional. Samsung actually goes further than LG, by using those big gray oval "Samsung" stickers to cover up carrier logos on phones shown before release.
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Ludio

Mar 24, 2005, 2:20 AM
Do you have any idea why this really big gsm carrier decided to do the oposite of everyone else isn't it bad enough we can't use certain phones here witht he ptt implementation with the kodiak solution qall those nokia and other phone with poc coming out are a no go over here then. Im really fed up with cingular I really hope they go under. I want competition back.
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