One of the ATT data reps was just in my store. We looked over the article and as far as he knew it would be the 8110 that replaces the 8100, not the 8120. The 8120 hasn't been mentioned at all. This doesn't mean it's not possible to get the 8120, but the 8110 will be first and more likely.
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Nope 8120 and it's some kind of Navy color. 😳
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I don't remember asking a question in my previous statement. I was sharing information.
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webdrMar 13, 2008, 9:39 PM
I believe it does video but I did not test that. I stuck it in a drawer last week, I will dig it up and put a SIM in it and check it.
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webdrMar 13, 2008, 5:45 PM
This is the 8120. I have been field testing this device for ATT since October.
This device is great, the Wifi works great for data.
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Well let me ask you something, you do field testing.
Have you been field testing any Nokia N95s? (Which I've been using on AT&T's 3G network now for 3 months.) But likely the N95-3 is way, way too good of a mobile device for AT&T to carry.
Just curious if you know anything at all from your field testing end.
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webdrMar 13, 2008, 9:37 PM
I have not been field testing the N95.
Now I have field tested phones from every mfg now for 8+ years and I probably test upwards of 20 phones per year and in MY opinion Nokia is one of the worst mfgs out there. Again my opinion. I have tested every type of device on the market and theirs are the most unreliable with the worst battery life of any device I have tested.
Now you like the N95 and perhaps it is a great device, having not tested it I won't argue with you. As for it being way too good for AT&T to carry I will simply go back to my previous experience and say I am glad we don't.
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whether a phone is worthy or a potential good seller should be left up to the consumer.
With reguards to the battery, I personally only have owned 2 Nokia's, the 3390 and N95. Now keep in mind the N95 is a multimedia monster. But I do agree w/u about the battery, mine is a 1200mAh OEM battery, it would be nice if it were more like 1500.
And about my comment about the N95 being too, too good for AT&T, it is the N95 that is considered the #1 cameraphone for 2007. And everybody knows how U.S. carriers DON'T carry the best phones in the world, that would be Europe and Japan. For whatever reason U.S. carriers have made the decision not to be leaders. And so therefore people like myself who are WILLING to pay and appreciate well equiped well...
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webdrMar 13, 2008, 10:46 PM
I won't disagree with you that the best devices usually hit Europe and Japan first. The features of the 8120 show that. Wifi devices have been in Europe for years but we are just starting to see them here.
As to why that is... I think part of it is that US Consumers are whining three year olds that expect phones for nothing, or next to nothing. Carriers can't afford to waste money on devices that fail and have a high rate of return. As such they have very stringent guidelines for phones and rigorous test criteria. Companies basically spend months with a device before you see it on the shelf. Carriers in other parts of the world don’t sell near the amount of devices and as such carriers get devices earlier because they donâ€...
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Thank you for replying.
You are a very honest person.
It's nice to have a mature dialogue with someone on PhoneScoop rather than a 5th grade schoolyard fight like most are on the forums here.
By the way might yok know what's going on with AT&T procrastinating with the launch of MobileTv???
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webdrMar 13, 2008, 11:24 PM
I don't know for sure but many speculate that it has to do with 700mhz auction going on.
That and iPhone users are chewing up too much bandwidth on the edge network.
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bmegaMar 14, 2008, 9:52 PM
I can't tell from the ATT website what color it is.
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Woo-Hoo another device released by ATT that's only capable of a fraction of what the manufacturer built in. I was interested when BB announced the phone...not any more.
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webdrMar 14, 2008, 9:44 AM
I am not sure what you think this device is capable of that is not being used???
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The missing GPS comes immediately to mind. I read your comment on Nokias battery life. All I can say is a normal days use of my N82 doesn't put a dent in the battery. When I come home in the evening, I put it on the charger out of habit and it chimes with a full charge in five minutes.
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What you are missing, I think, on the missing features has to do with their implementation. Company A can make a phone that can do video conferencing, both ways, and be clear. But Carrier A may not support the technology they are using, or have the bandwidth. So if Carrier A wants to carry said device, they have to disable that feature. RIM is a great company with great devices, but they need to cater the devices to the carriers, not the other way around. Additionally, they may make a variant of the 8110 without the GPS chip, which would save them all kinds of cash, and make the phone cheaper for the consumer.
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Since AT&T has decided to opt for either the cutrate version of the Pearl or to cripple its functionality, I can decide to spend my money elsewhere. That's why I purchase devices like My Nokia N82 directly from the manufacturer. I get wi-fi and gps in the same small package. No need to choose between the two. The five megapixel camera with xenon flash is an extra added bonus.
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And while I may agree with you on that phone choice, the fact is, BB users don't care about a 5 mpixel camera's with a xenon flash, what they do care about is push mail, like it or not, they do that better then any other brand of phone.
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