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Now this will be revolutionary

Greatgat

Dec 19, 2007, 3:04 PM
Make no mistake about that.
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Jayshmay

Dec 19, 2007, 3:18 PM
I wonder how long we gotta wait for it!!!

20hrs of battery power for a laptop is awesome!!!
But when??? It would be nice not to have to carry around an extra battery, that's for sure.
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azdurangoman

Dec 19, 2007, 3:39 PM
and this would be the beginning of the end of the gasoline car too- if itll change the lifespan of a charge how much mor for electric cars? smaller batt packs too!
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eljeffe666

Dec 19, 2007, 3:42 PM
and expensive i don't think this will be widely available for a long time
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Nextel9

Dec 19, 2007, 3:56 PM
yeah i do agree to that but question is... is the price somewhat affordable for the masses? or is it also revolutionary? but anyway this will really ensure us that we'll be getting a much longer service from our gadgets so prices wouldn't really matter.
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TheNurseWhoLovedMe

Dec 19, 2007, 3:57 PM
Finally battery life will improve with the rest of technology! Maybe GM will purchase the rights to this and close it down? 🤣
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SystemShock

Dec 19, 2007, 5:21 PM
TheNurseWhoLovedMe said:
Finally battery life will improve with the rest of technology! Maybe GM will purchase the rights to this and close it down? 🤣

GM knows the public wants green cars. They won't shut this down, though I'm sure they'd kill to have exclusive rights to it, if they could.

Now, Exxon and the other big oil companies, that's a different story. I'm surprised they haven't already dispatched stealth assault teams to kidnap all the researchers who invented this. 😳
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TheNurseWhoLovedMe

Dec 19, 2007, 6:13 PM
SystemShock said:
TheNurseWhoLovedMe said:
Finally battery life will improve with the rest of technology! Maybe GM will purchase the rights to this and close it down? 🤣

GM knows the public wants green cars. They won't shut this down, though I'm sure they'd kill to have exclusive rights to it, if they could.

Now, Exxon and the other big oil companies, that's a different story. I'm surprised they haven't already dispatched stealth assault teams to kidnap all the researchers who invented this. 😳


Yep should of went directly to the source on that one...
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Jayshmay

Dec 19, 2007, 6:30 PM
That is so, so, so funny!!! 🤣 🤣 🤣
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Azeron

Dec 20, 2007, 9:43 AM
Kidnap? Try murder. Do you have any idea what this could cost the oil industry?
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Webb

Dec 20, 2007, 2:45 PM
SystemShock said:
TheNurseWhoLovedMe said:
Finally battery life will improve with the rest of technology! Maybe GM will purchase the rights to this and close it down? 🤣

GM knows the public wants green cars. They won't shut this down, though I'm sure they'd kill to have exclusive rights to it, if they could.

Now, Exxon and the other big oil companies, that's a different story. I'm surprised they haven't already dispatched stealth assault teams to kidnap all the researchers who invented this. 😳


Actually, GM wants consumers to buy the cars they MAKE. The various green technologies they've invested include hyrdrogen, biofuels, and hybrids. They aren't ...
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SystemShock

Dec 24, 2007, 3:04 PM
Webb said:
Actually, GM wants consumers to buy the cars they MAKE. The various green technologies they've invested include hyrdrogen, biofuels, and hybrids. They aren't really doing electric vehicles nowadays.


I think you're forgetting about plug-in hybrids, which, yes, GM is investing eavily in. Things like their Volt car, and their E-Flex architecture.

GM's target for these vehicles is that they can go 40 miles in pure electric mode, which is longer than most ppl's daily commutes. Unless its a long trip, they are in effect electric vehicles.

You can recharge them either via the small onboard diesel or gas motor (which is very effecient, since they don't drive the wheels and can spin at a consisten...
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FoneLink

Dec 20, 2007, 3:32 PM
As I stated in the other thread, neither the major oil companies nor the independents will frown upon this. In fact, most of them are for the development alternative fuels and are spending tens of millions of dollars on R&D to further this along. It's a good marketing strategy, right? You nor I will ever see a decline in exploration & production of fossil fuels in our lifetime. Automobiles are a small percentage of hydrocarbon based fuel burners.
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azdurangoman

Dec 20, 2007, 6:21 PM
if anything this will give oil companies longer life- only so much oil down there.. less gas sucked out = longer buisness prospects.. im shure even electric cars will need to use PETROLIUM products for plastics & lube.. not to mention everything else we use unless ur a caveman 😁 i think its time to invent a gasoline powered cell phn- imagine that! gallons per minute
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Webb

Dec 20, 2007, 8:50 PM
azdurangoman said:
if anything this will give oil companies longer life- only so much oil down there.. less gas sucked out = longer buisness prospects.. im shure even electric cars will need to use PETROLIUM products for plastics & lube.. not to mention everything else we use unless ur a caveman 😁 i think its time to invent a gasoline powered cell phn- imagine that! gallons per minute


Plus it's funny imagining a guy trying to pull-start a cell phone...
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unknownsoul278

Dec 21, 2007, 9:42 AM
The oil companies have no reason to worry and they know it. Regardless of how many vehicles are released that use alternative fuel sources, whatever those sources may be, they will never replace gasoline-powered engines until they are made affordable for the masses, which does not look like it will happen. Besides, no one will be coming up with an alternative fuel source for tankers, buses, or eighteen-wheelers anytime soon, so if nothing else the need for diesel will last for a long time. Even the new 'green' vehicles are not affordable to the average worker, especially in rural areas.
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crood

Dec 21, 2007, 11:22 AM
While this might alleviate some of the size/weight issues with purely electric cars, I don't think it would alleviate the charge time hurdle. Until a car could be charged in a comparable amount of time that it takes to fill up a gas tank, they won't be useful for long trips unless you want to pay for hotels.


Of course, since a large amount of electricity is generated from coal and oil burning power plants, they're not really all that green anyway.
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Webb

Dec 22, 2007, 12:31 PM
crood said:
Of course, since a large amount of electricity is generated from coal and oil burning power plants, they're not really all that green anyway.


Sure it is. It's much more efficient to burn coal or oil for energy in a powerplant than it is to burn gasoline in a car's engine. Right at step one, there's less energy expended in the refining process to get that fuel ready to burn. There are things you can do to minimize waste heat (and scrub pollutants from the exhaust) that just aren't practical in any vehicular powerplant. This amounts to a reduction in real fuel consumption and real pollution generated, which is pretty green in my books.

It also takes that pollution (what little you can't scrub ...
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SystemShock

Dec 24, 2007, 3:16 PM
Webb said:
Sure it is. It's much more efficient to burn coal or oil for energy in a powerplant than it is to burn gasoline in a car's engine. Right at step one, there's less energy expended in the refining process to get that fuel ready to burn. There are things you can do to minimize waste heat (and scrub pollutants from the exhaust) that just aren't practical in any vehicular powerplant. This amounts to a reduction in real fuel consumption and real pollution generated, which is pretty green in my books.

It also takes that pollution (what little you can't scrub out of the exhaust or eliminate through fine-tuning of the powerplant) and moves it to a point source, rather than spreading it all out around the city. Guess
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SystemShock

Dec 24, 2007, 2:53 PM
No text. 🙄
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SystemShock

Dec 24, 2007, 3:12 PM
FoneLink said:
As I stated in the other thread, neither the major oil companies nor the independents will frown upon this. In fact, most of them are for the development alternative fuels and are spending tens of millions of dollars on R&D to further this along. It's a good marketing strategy, right? You nor I will ever see a decline in exploration & production of fossil fuels in our lifetime. Automobiles are a small percentage of hydrocarbon based fuel burners.


The oil companies are belatedly and grudgingly hedging their bets, that's all. They'd much prefer to keep selling nothing but oil.

And honestly, it doesn't take that much of a drop in demand to upset the supply-demand curve enough to cause o...
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