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Will it really make a difference though?

tawd

Dec 4, 2007, 5:54 PM
I'll be the first to give skepticism about this idea..

I can't help but wonder what Nokia's motives really are for this increased 'presence?'

Up to this point, it appears that Nokia see's the U.S. market strictly as a body consisting of cheap consumers who rarely take a second thought as to a phone's features. That is, Americans only buy the phone that is the least expensive to go along with their 2-year renewed contract from AT&T or Verizon... To further illustrate this, take a look at the Nokia 6555 - this is Nokia's first impression on American soil about their joint efforts in order to capture the American market again. In my opinion, the 6555 is a bland piece of nothing which only succeeds in filling the quota for useless l...
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crackberry

Dec 5, 2007, 9:48 AM
you can't really put all the blame on nokia, some needs to fall on the carriers. nokia makes one of the best phones in the world and world wide they lead in sales of every catagory except here in america. US carriers are greedy and want to tell the manufactures what's best. nokia also charges more for their phones because they know they have a solid product and the carriers don't want to pay it. so entry level phones are all that get bought. look at the e62 and what at&t did to that phone. the n75? great phone, the only problem is the software that at&t put on it. the 6555 is a great phone. look at the screen, it's one of the best looking screens i've seen. but it's bogged down with at&t crap you can't take off. nokia (along with sony) give ...
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Omagus

Dec 5, 2007, 11:06 AM
The question you asked in the second part of your post is answered by what you said in the first part. Why doesn't Nokia make more 3G and high end phones for the US? Because, historically, Americans won't buy them. The iPhone did change that perception somewhat, but it takes time for a manufacturer to respond to that groundswell.

You ask why Nokia doesn't just make tri-band 3G. Two things:

1) just because you CAN do something doesn't necessarily mean that you should. If Nokia were to put 850/1900 3G chipsets in its phones, and then only a few phone geeks in the US actually bought them, money is being wasted. No successful company is going to throw money away just to appease a very small minority of customers.

2) tri-band 3G is...
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Infomedia

Dec 5, 2007, 12:48 PM
I agree with crackberry and Omagus.

Don't blame the manufacturers about "giving" the US market ugly phones. It's the carriers. Like how Apple offered Verizon the iPhone but Verizon refused cause they didn't want to give Apple pretty much all the rights.

Nokia is a strong presence in Europe and Asia. I'm sure once the manufacturers get rights like Apple. They'll be able to bring out better phones for the US.
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nakoda

Dec 5, 2007, 1:27 PM
dont forget that the lawsuit issues that Nokia has with Qualcom has also done a lot to hinder their production of CDMA phones for Sprint and Verizon.

now that Broadcom has moved a step further in their injunction of Qualcom, Nokia is following up by coming back in to a market that used to be more hassle than it's worth.

Qith Qualcom smartening up (whether or not by their choice 😉 ) it frees up a lot more sandbox for other manufacturers to do their thing again like when the cellular industry hit its first bang in North America in the early 90's.
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tawd

Dec 6, 2007, 12:35 AM
Makes sense, and I agree with your first point completely. It's true that Nokia really has little (if anything) to gain by implementing a full-on triband 3G spectrum, in terms of economic growth...

However, I don't completely agree with your second point. The TI OMAP 2420 (used in the E90, N82 & N95, among other phones) already has the option to implement triband 3G, it's just selectively disabled by Nokia. The same thing rings true with Freescale, their 369Mhz ARM11 chipset (used in phones like the N76, E51, etc) also has triband 3G available to be implemented into the chipset... What I'm trying to say here is that there is no need for "seperate chipsets" in order to achieve triband 3G, or even a potential 5-band 3G solution in the futu...
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Omagus

Dec 6, 2007, 10:56 AM
Ok, I wasn't aware that tri-band 3G capable chipsets were already in the devices. Would there be a cost increase to Nokia for making them active on all applicable 3G bands?
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tawd

Dec 7, 2007, 12:19 PM
That seems to be the case with Nokia's current choice of chipset manufacturers - which would explain why they haven't gone with triband 3G yet.

But Nokia's 2008's lineup could be entirely different. This is where I am coming from on this whole issue - I am rather hopeful that Nokia will make a choice to implement CPU solutions which will inherently include triband 3G, effectively showing their interest in the US market... However, I am also quite doubtful that they'd do such a thing - as it would be too good to be true, IMHO.
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