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pauldg

Nov 27, 2007, 9:10 AM
if this is truly their intention, they wouldn't have chosen CDMA. i don't see a big enough demand for unlocked CDMA devices to warrant manufacturers to actually make anything compelling.

On the s/w side, isn't that what smartphones are for? show me a cdma symbian phone and i'll eat my words 🤣
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beeferjay

Nov 27, 2007, 9:31 AM
but in the future, VZW will be using LTE, which will also be used by ATT.

see where this gets interesting?

not defending VZW or anything
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RUFF1415

Nov 27, 2007, 9:42 AM
beeferjay said:
but in the future, VZW will be using LTE, which will also be used by ATT.

Not necessarily. It was a Vodafone exec that reported Verizon Wireless' pending devotion to the LTE standard (which makes sense considering Vodafone's undying desire for Verizon to conform to the worldwide wireless standard). In a separate interview of Verizon execs, it was reported that all options (meaning LTE, UMB and WiMax) remained on the table.
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beeferjay

Nov 27, 2007, 10:07 AM
well, voda has already committed to using LTE, so it would make sense for VZW to follow suit.

and with the sprint/clearwire fall out, it seems WiMax has taken a back seat.
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Teck_72

Nov 27, 2007, 1:20 PM
It wasn't like Clearwire was half the deal or anything, it was Sprint taking like 80% of the market and clearwire covering the rest. It's not something that's going completely shut down WiMax, but it'll probably slow it down for sure.
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RUFF1415

Nov 27, 2007, 6:48 PM
I don't mean to discredit that point, as it would make sense for Verizon to conform to the global standard...but Vodafone uses GSM and Verizon does not. So it appears it hasn't really posed as a problem for them to operate with different technologies.
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Master0fursinz

Nov 27, 2007, 10:35 PM
as far i can figure they are still gonna have cdma, but run LTE over it or using separate towers thats why i think its gonna take a few yrs to get it up and running
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dublea

Nov 28, 2007, 2:57 PM
LTE is NOT GSM, just the best to use WITH GSM
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tnt2k1

Nov 29, 2007, 7:43 PM
your mom is best used with GSM




haha sorry. it sounded like the right thing to say at that time. you know it was funny.
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vzwguy72

Nov 27, 2007, 10:08 AM
Damned if they do, damned if they don't. I only wonder how much louder your b*^ching would be if they stuck with a closed system for years to come.

Don't like closed CDMA devices? Go get an iphone 🤣
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Kagehiru

Nov 27, 2007, 11:15 AM
Please. Intentions to have an open network had nothing to do with their decision to use CDMA. When they went with CDMA, bringing a handset over to another carrier was not even on the far horizon. What Verizon is doing now is just smart business based on market pressure.
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pauldg

Nov 27, 2007, 11:52 AM
Kagehiru said:
When they went with CDMA, bringing a handset over to another carrier was not even on the far horizon.


you are forgetting about Europe 😉
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Kagehiru

Nov 27, 2007, 12:28 PM
No, I factored in Europe. The US has a long history of doing things their way, rightly and wrongly. GSM was the older tech and many thought CDMA was the way to go. That said, 12 years ago, handset mobility was not a factor in cellular communications. US, or Europe.
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pauldg

Nov 27, 2007, 2:20 PM
actually, mobility and interoperability was a driving force in the creation of the gsm standard.

From wikipedia:

"In 1982, the European Conference of Postal and Telecommunications Administrations (CEPT) created the Groupe Spécial Mobile (GSM) to develop a standard for a mobile telephone system that could be used across Europe.[5] In 1987, a memorandum of understanding was signed by 13 countries to develop a common cellular telephone system across Europe.[6][7]"

sounds to me like this focuses mainly on the infrastructure side, but nonetheless implies interoperability and 'open access' across Europe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gsm »
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tapperal

Nov 27, 2007, 4:30 PM
Although we can't always believe what we read on the internet (expecially in Widipedia), you are correct in that GSM is much more pervasive. However, that does not mean it is better. It seems like Verizon took a more long term look at what was needed and chose a standard that was deemed to be the next generation technology:

"GSM has always grown and adapted to the changing needs of customers. The number of GSM subscribers has increased over the years, with around 160 million new customers added in 2002 alone. From 1997 to 2003, the number of GSM customers increased 10 times. GSM, which is continuously evolving at a rapid pace, provides several voice and data enabled services.

But just as GSM was being standardized, an even better s...
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pauldg

Nov 27, 2007, 4:48 PM
GSM's proliferation isn't the point. The point is that it was developed to be an interoperable standard, whereas CDMA has always been Qualcomm's baby, and it doesn't play nice with others 😛 .
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Master0fursinz

Nov 27, 2007, 10:47 PM
WEll we all know what QualComm can do , and has done.. but the most recent battle with broadcomm it lost little to nothing.. umm 20 mill, thats like pocket change to them, they're just gonna hit a do over button and push the limit of the global domination.
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Kagehiru

Nov 28, 2007, 10:53 AM
I can see why you would draw that conclusion, but the same argument could be said for CDMA.
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