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ATT. to all bashing Sprint about this issue...

dublea

Nov 19, 2007, 8:41 PM
First of all let me say that, yes there are many issues with Sprint/Nextel that need to be fixed.

As far as cutting off the IDEN network (and someone already stated that it won't happen till 2012) they are implementing QChat which is the CDMA equivalent to IDEN. Sprint/Nextel is going to have to either move/upgrade all IDEN by 2012 to the QChat which will allow them to shut down IDEN.

Now for BOOST, the new Boost Unlimited phones are ALL CDMA!! SO, as far as they have seen, most of their chirp customers have already purchased new Boost Unlimited phones.

AND, you know our government is ****ed to all heck and slower than a snail running on a treadmill. You know Sprint/Nextel will get it appealed and keep it running till the IDEN co...
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BluewindsLegacy

Nov 19, 2007, 10:53 PM
It's good your remembering all the people who still use older iden boost phones (ex. i60, i730 etc.)
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Humdizzle

Nov 20, 2007, 10:33 AM
And the idea that "Qchat" (which is not even the correct name, it's HPPTT [High Performance Push-To-Talk]) operates on the EVDO Rev A network anyway. Which, as you may know, does not cover much as of right now.
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mtr1015

Nov 20, 2007, 12:10 PM
The correct name is Qchat... It is a form of High Performance Push-To-Talk. It does ride on EVDO Rev A or later. The Sprint network is almost completely overlaid with EVDO Rev A. Sprint is also adding towers to mask the entire footprint of what Iden now covers.
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dublea

Nov 20, 2007, 3:36 PM
Also, the RevA EVD0 covers 220 markets and over 250 million people, much larger than the IDEN network.
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working man

Nov 20, 2007, 4:15 PM
The Sprint affiliate markets DO NOT have EVDO with the exception, I think, of Johnson City TN. This is quite a large footprint. I used to work for their biggest one Alamosa PCS. Sprint then bought us out in March 2006 and as of now the data network is still 1X and not EVDO or EVDO-REV A in these areas. Sprint does have a reverse data roaming agreement with Alltel who recently turned up EVDO in our area but it's slow compared to Sprint.
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dublea

Nov 20, 2007, 4:22 PM
Very true. But then agian, VZW and Alltel affiliated markets DO NOT roam on the EVDO, you only get 1x. So whats the difference? Sprints own EVDO network does cover over 200 million people and climbing. Hopefully, one day, all networks will roam data just like voice.
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working man

Nov 20, 2007, 5:21 PM
What am I missing here? Sprint now OWNS Alamosa PCS....thus one would think it would be a priority to upgrade to EVDO.
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dublea

Nov 20, 2007, 8:11 PM
Where the heck is Alamosa at? 🤣 What carrier offers high speed in rural areas? None, thats right 😲

But FYI, they are already upgrading their 1x towers to EVDO Rev 0 as apart of the WiMAX venture.
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working man

Nov 20, 2007, 10:16 PM
Do some research on Sprint and the affiliates they've acquired. Alamosa covers some pretty big markets in TX, NC, SC etc. You evidently haven't researched Verizon or Alltel as far as EVDO goes because they MOST CERTAINLY DO HAVE EVDO IN SOME OF THEIR RURAL MARKETS!
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mtr1015

Nov 21, 2007, 8:39 AM
They are upgrading Alamosa PCS equipment... It just isnt a priority like the Legacy Sprint Network. If Alamosa wasn't so far behind the times, Sprint wouldn't have to be swinging traffic and upgrading all this equipment and it would be much quicker.
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BigShowJB

Nov 20, 2007, 8:18 PM
i can free roam off of the EVDO network in midland, MI
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mtr1015

Nov 20, 2007, 4:28 PM
This is correct, Sprint is rolling affiliates to Sprint switches or completely upgrading the affiliates equipment. Sprint is also working on EVDO Roaming with Alltel. There is a known speed issue when roaming EVDO data.
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dublea

Nov 20, 2007, 5:10 PM
The only reason I could guess for a speed issue would be that they only have EVDO Rev 0 and not Rev A or later.
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working man

Nov 20, 2007, 10:32 PM
How do you "roll" an affiliate to a Sprint switch?? The affiliates network is completely separate from Sprint. When I worked for Airgate PCS which was bought out by another Sprint affiliate Alamosa PCS everything we had was completely removed from Sprint. Whenever you'd travel out of our territory into Sprint's the call would always drop as it was unable to hand off to the sprint switch. You'd have to redial the call. When I left Sprint (which acquired the Alamosa markets in March 2006) in June of this year NOTHING had been done to upgrade the Alamosa network to EVDO. In fact Sprint hadn't even added a single cell site to our area since buying us out. You mention the speed issue with EVDO roaming. When I used to roam off of Alltel's EVDO (Sp...
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mtr1015

Nov 21, 2007, 8:52 AM
I agree on the commercial's about Sprint Speed in non EVDO areas, but this campaign is also targeting Push-to-talk and that is done pretty damn fast....

Rolling.... Well when you roll traffic from one piece of equipment to the next... Sprint is decommissioning alot of Affiliate switches and moving the circuits to a Sprint switch or in some cases upgrading the affiliate equipment. Rolling the traffic to Sprint switches is the best option because of the cost savings. You would lose building costs, labor costs, some access circuit costs, etc...

When you travel between a Sprint Affiliate network and the legacy Sprint network this is called a hard handoff because it is not from one cell tower to the next it is between switches and in a some...
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BigShowJB

Nov 20, 2007, 8:17 PM
Grand Rapids, MI and Mt. Pleasant, MI both have EV-DO , SAginaw-BayCity- Midland should get EVDO in spring summer 08 and they are affiliate markets
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rawmustard

Nov 21, 2007, 8:47 AM
Hell, even unincorporated Atlanta, MI, has EVDO now 😳. It just blows my mind when I see sparsely populated areas in the NE Lower Peninsula have EVDO (e.g., a spot between Hillman and Alpena), but areas along I-75 in that part don't yet.
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dublea

Nov 20, 2007, 3:34 PM
In the test markets of the new Boost Unlimted, 60-70% of all PPT Boost Customers have switched to Unlimted and purchased the new CDMA equipment. They do this by offering the first month free. Also, the TXT msg's are faster, the calls are clearer, and the internet is faster. Boost unlimted is now available in most markets and will be fully implemented by the end of the year.
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BluewindsLegacy

Nov 23, 2007, 11:44 AM
That's great for people who switched, but again your forgetting the people who use older iDen phones, for people who don't want to switch to sprint for the ptt ability, boost is the way to go for PTT within the nextel network. I have Verizon for my main cell and Boost only for the PTT ability. That's awesome that Moto headsets are available for boost, but your still forgetting what boost came out with first, Pay as you go PTT for people who 1) Hate Sprint (like me)
2) Don't want a contact just for the PTT.

Stop thinking of the CDMA networks for a moment and think about the people who are still using BOOST for PTT (why they orginally bought it for).
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BluewindsLegacy

Nov 23, 2007, 11:46 AM
Addtionally, Post a link to the Stat's from which you quoted me.
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en102

Nov 20, 2007, 9:58 PM
probably won't fix my new Blackberry 7100i though.
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