Sprint Seeking to Replace Forsee

Point is, captain get-a-clue, is that coverage IS the issue! Sprint and Verizon have basically identical networks, verizon just happens to have better call centers for their whiners to call in to. If Sprint has poor indoor coverage, so would verizon if their tower was in the exact same place. You are just a biased troll, so off you go to verizon land and drink more of their kool aid while the rest of us keep it on subject. How much do they pay you anyway? Who gives a royal poo what your opinion is? The subject is that Forsee sucks so they are looking to replace him. Where is the subject "Sprint thinks they are better than Verizon"?

You think that the main difference between the two carries is superior call centers???? Are you serious, thats absolutely laughable.

z34007 said:
You think that the main difference between the two carries is superior call centers???? Are you serious, thats absolutely laughable.

Considering the fact that both carriers use CDMA, and roam off of each other, then, yes.

You have a very simplistic view of this. While having good call centers certainly assists, there is much more needed. If it was only the call centers, they why hasn't Sprint changed their call centers? If it only took one think to turn a company around, why wouldn't they do it?

z34007 said:
You have a very simplistic view of this. While having good call centers certainly assists, there is much more needed. If it was only the call centers, they why hasn't Sprint changed their call centers? If it only took one think to turn a company around, why wouldn't they do it?

That's a VERY good question.

My experience has been that large corporations often can't see the forest for the trees! They seldom, if ever, ask the customer what they think, or any of the employees that work for them, but instead, pull outside resources to explain to them why they are failing and what they need to do, which often doesn't work.

I think Sprint is FINALLY, starting to get the message. That's why the...
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I agree 100% with the idea nobody wants to speak to "durka durka, you said you had dropped calls, jihad durka durka??"

z34007 said:
You think that the main difference between the two carries is superior call centers???? Are you serious, thats absolutely laughable.

yes it is laughable, because if sprint's call centers were better, Sprint would have 50 million instead of Verizon.
A couple of my customers are Board members and upper level VP's of a Fortune 50 company and they switched from Verizon to sprint because in their nationwide and international travels (we're talking a 50-100 thousand air miles/year) they tell me Sprint has a better voice and data coverage area than anyone out there. No one even comes close. Especially not ATT or VZW. That's just what their opinion is though. Not that I believe it at all... :ro...
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BigShowJB said:

z34007 said:
You think that the main difference between the two carries is superior call centers???? Are you serious, thats absolutely laughable.

yes it is laughable, because if sprint's call centers were better, Sprint would have 50 million instead of Verizon.
A couple of my customers are Board members and upper level VP's of a Fortune 50 company and they switched from Verizon to sprint because in their nationwide and international travels (we're talking a 50-100 thousand air miles/year) they tell me Sprint has a better voice and data coverage area than anyone out there. No one even comes close. Especially not ATT or VZW. That's just what their opinion is though.

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danbfree said:
If Sprint has poor indoor coverage, so would verizon if their tower was in the exact same place

Wrong. Vzw uses the 850 frequency, which better penetrates buildings than Sprint's 1900mhz pcs network. Nice try.

I AM GOD said:

danbfree said:
If Sprint has poor indoor coverage, so would verizon if their tower was in the exact same place

Wrong. Vzw uses the 850 frequency, which better penetrates buildings than Sprint's 1900mhz pcs network. Nice try.

Wrong again dumba$$!!! Sprint also uses the 850 band!!!

Are you sure they do? If so, what do you think they use the 850 for?

the primary band is the 1900, yes, but in the case that 1900 is unuseable/unavailable the phones automatically revert to the 850 band and use analog signals if needed

It only reverts back to the 850 band if their roaming partner has 850 band roam. I think that person was talking primarily about the 1.9 GHz and its legacy network.

look at the technology the phones accept... they are both the same!

All phones accept different bands the only thing about that is if there are no 850 roaming partners that band doesn’t matter, and plus we are just mentioning about the 1.9ghz that Sprint has for its in-door (lack thereof) coverage. We are trying to say that since Verizon uses primarily of the 850 MHz band that they are better in doors than Sprint’s 1.9 GHz. That is 100% true.

nextel18 said:
All phones accept different bands the only thing about that is if there are no 850 roaming partners that band doesn’t matter, and plus we are just mentioning about the 1.9ghz that Sprint has for its in-door (lack thereof) coverage. We are trying to say that since Verizon uses primarily of the 850 MHz band that they are better in doors than Sprint’s 1.9 GHz. That is 100% true.

It also depends on the market you're in. In my market, Verizon uses the 850 band, and their indoor coverage is horrendous! That is why I don't have them. Where I work, and several places throughout town, their signal cannot adequately penetrate metal buildings.

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Obviously in different markets changes with indoor coverage and capacity but we are just saying on a nationwide basis of the difference in spectrum bands of Sprint’s 1.9 GHz and Verizon’s 850 MHz and who is better for in-door coverage.

nextel18 said:
Obviously in different markets changes with indoor coverage and capacity but we are just saying on a nationwide basis of the difference in spectrum bands of Sprint’s 1.9 GHz and Verizon’s 850 MHz and who is better for in-door coverage.

True. I probably would be a Verizon customer, if not for the fact that overall performance doesn't necessarily translate into individual market performance.

I'm sure if we were to place two towers together, one being Sprint PCS, the other being Verizon cellular, made sure they were equal in height and power output, and used the exact same devices inside the same building in the same spot, VZW would outshine Sprint.

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It just depends on the given network. If you were comparing 1 Sprint tower to another (1) Verizon tower then obviously the latter would beat out the former no matter if Sprint’s tower is bigger in height and more powered because 800/850mhz and its properties are better than 1.9ghz (when it comes to coverage and transmissions), however, with Sprint’s new Airave technology out there the above might change to Sprint’s favor.

nextel18 said:
It just depends on the given network. If you were comparing 1 Sprint tower to another (1) Verizon tower then obviously the latter would beat out the former no matter if Sprint’s tower is bigger in height and more powered because 800/850mhz and its properties are better than 1.9ghz (when it comes to coverage and transmissions), however, with Sprint’s new Airave technology out there the above might change to Sprint’s favor.

I wonder if they got that idea from Nextel? Nextel, for years, has worked with businesses interested in their service on indoor reception solutions. Where I work, Nextel is KING because of roof antennas specifically designed to pull in their signal.

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Yea they did talk to Nextel about the in-door coverage, especially since Sprint needs that kind of solution more with its 1.9GHz.

BigShowJB said:
the primary band is the 1900, yes, but in the case that 1900 is unuseable/unavailable the phones automatically revert to the 850 band and use analog signals if needed

Many newer phones don't even have analog on them, since Sprint is releasing a lot of EVDO capable phones. So what you mean is that where Sprint has no native coverage (PCS only, since they no native 850 coverage), the phone reverts to the 850 digital band (analog only on phones that have it, and that the digital signal is that weak that it grabs the analog signal)on a roaming partner, if there is a roaming agreement with that partner.

pretty much, yes. but the katana (6600) and M300 still have the native AMPS band available for use as a primary band

Yeah, when their customer roam on the infrastructure of other companies...

That is why they are coming out with that new Airave device. That should drastically improve in-door coverage.

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