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Mixed feelings about patent lawsuits (Then more direct at NTP and their suit)

nextel18

Sep 11, 2007, 5:37 PM
I have a few mixed feelings about kind of patent lawsuits because the US Patent Office granted the patents in order for the products and/or solutions to protect and to be launched with a fair price. I think patents are key but it is ridiculous when companies sue each other for patent infringement even if they might not own the patent and/or if they want to challenge it. These lawsuits just hurt consumers and not really, the companies involved.

NTP is a patent holder and obviously, they won the Rimm lawsuit because the latter settled with the former and I think we will see the same situation happen in NTP’s lawsuit against the cellular companies. I think there should be patent reform because I think it is just horrible for injunction threa...
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renardlee

Sep 11, 2007, 9:37 PM
I think CTIA or the major telco's should lobby congress for patent reform,
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nextel18

Sep 12, 2007, 10:49 AM
They are. It is being discussed in the Congress. Who knows if it will actually bear fruit. We know what to expect from Congress.
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renardlee

Sep 12, 2007, 11:50 PM
.... absolutely nothing
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adilus

Sep 12, 2007, 5:55 AM
I agree that patent holders should be protected when they actually develop their patent.

The problem with NTP and a number of other companies like NTP is that they patent concepts, usually very broad and undefined which are open to interpretation.

I think all patent holders should be required to develop their patents in working form before they can call an injunction. Concecptual patent holders should not be able to call injunctions as they were never able to full develop their patent so who is to say their patent would have actually worked in the first place.
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nextel18

Sep 12, 2007, 10:45 AM
Well, that is why there should be allowed challenges into those patents even being allowed to exist if they indeed are just for broad concepts. Broadcom has similar situations with their patents and obviously has been winning their battles, so far, against Qualcomm. The good thing is that Congress is talking about a patent reform especially the pressure coming from the telecommunication lobbyists. Hopes it comes into fruition and then every party can be happy with the economics of the deal.

Problem is, the PTO granted them so I think only Congress can change such a thing. Let us hope they do it to allow further technology breakthroughs instead of injunctions.
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lang

Sep 12, 2007, 1:35 PM
My gut feeling is NTP knows that it's patent camping days are numbered (as the Judge is reviewing it's patents) and is trying to get it's last big score before it actually has to work for a living. Once the patents are ruled invalid NTP will more than likely fade away (one could hope/wish) with it's $600M plus from RIM.
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nextel18

Sep 12, 2007, 1:50 PM
That is why I have mixed feelings on this issue. They obviously have patents because it was granted to them. I think courts should come to a few things before even thinking of injunctions; setting a reasonable ongoing royalty rate or settlement and seeing if it indeed is a valid patent. I think those are two very important things, but we cannot keep having these patent lawsuits because it does not hurt the companies it hurts the consumers as I mentioned before. Kind of interesting how it said that Nokia and NTP made an agreement but Nokia cannot make an agreement with Qualcomm or what not. Same thing with Broadcom. Congress is obviously looking into it so we shall see. I just think they should set a limit of how many lawsuits a company can d...
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lang

Sep 12, 2007, 1:55 PM
Getting rid of patents would open a whole new world of industrial espionage.

Reform would be good - and i like the idea of having to actively try to produce/market YOUR patent(s) else you should have to sell them to a company that does. Patents should also be a bit less vague - it should be explicet(sp) as to exactly what the patent is for. But I guess that's just me - and my obvious lack of knowledge of the system.
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nextel18

Sep 12, 2007, 2:14 PM
Well, I know that getting rid of patents are a horrible idea but in this case since everyone is challenging every single patent regardless if it is theirs or not or valid or not might lead to that conclusion. Obviously, it would destroy future technological advances as well as advancements in medicines and in other technology. I do not hint that way at all, but giving the circumstances it might be a better idea.

Reform should be good but clear rules need to be adopted and enforced by all of the parties involved and to allow for a good royalty rate and other events. Many companies have issues when they negotiate and some do not just care. If there could be a standard industry wide royalty rate I think it would be better because all partie...
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