AT&T Looks Beyond HSPA
Long Way Off
Also, LTE isn't even a standard yet. Once it is a standard it takes time to create the equipment, test, revise the standard, tweak the equipment, mass produce the equipment, and install the equipment... And that doesn't even touch on the fact that they still have to develop handsets that can do LTE/HSDPA/GSM soft handoffs.
BTW link to show that LTE won't even be in its first draft until Sept 07. --> http://www.3gpp.org/Highlights/LTE/LTE.htm
It was just f***ing announced and you are already talking crap about it? OF COURSE ALL THIS STUFF NEEDS TO BE DONE ITS HOW YOU START BUILDING A NEW NETWORK. What are you trying to prove?
AT&T is still building out 3G, they are just planning for the future. And even if GSM hasn't been phased out by the time LTE rolls out, you can bet your silly behind that phone manufacturers will jump at whatever AT&T needs in their phones, whether it be tri-band LTE/UMTS/GSM out dual mode LTE/UMTS.
I'm not trying to bash it already as much as I'm trying to point out how much this IS NOT newsworthy. AT&T announced that they are going to use a wireless technology that hasn't even been officially developed yet.. I mean, come on.
Also, check this out..
The Next Generation Mobile Networks (NGMN) initiative, led by seven network operators (*) provided a set of recommendations for the creation of networks suitable for the competitive delivery of mobile broadband services. The NGMN goal is "to provide a coherent vision for technology evolution beyond 3G for the competitive delivery of broadband wireless services".
* NGMN members: China Mobile Communica...
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The future isn't here yet. One could argue that Sprint and Verizon do not have good plans in place because they are currently focusing on proprietary networks (EV-DO and WiMax are not compatible with GSM or WCDMA used worldwide), and therefore are less interested in a common future *standard*. I'm not saying that is definitely the case. But Cingular has become more secretive about network deployments. For some HSDPA coverage areas, they did not announce direct plans to launch coverage until the coverage was actually launched.
I'm not saying that AT&T has the best plan in place, but I'm sure they have options. Like was stated earlier, one could say that since Sprint and Verizon ...
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And I think that WiMax is going to be much more widely accepted than by only CDMA carriers.. why do you think that Cingular and T-Mobile were bidding on the spectrum?
Mustang46L said:
Yay, GSM is used worldwide.. oh, accept the countries that I frequent. How helpful is that?
Let me fax that over to AT&T Mobility CEO Stan Sigman. That way they know their plans for the future don't fit your personal needs.
Plus, honestly, it doesn't effect most people. The average American doesn't leave the local area they live in on a daily basis (or monthly for that matter) let alone travel overseas every week..
So again I say that GSM works overseas.. SO WHAT!! Maybe if AT&T offered an actual broadband network then I would be impressed. I'll say it again I live and work in Baltimore/Washington and it DOESN'T WORK!!!
When did you get it
What sim card are you using (3g or 2g)
Mustang46L said:
And I think that WiMax is going to be much more widely accepted than by only CDMA carriers.. why do you think that Cingular and T-Mobile were bidding on the spectrum?
Did the government mandate that WiMax be used on the spectrum in the AWE auction?
Mustang46L said:
No but those are the frequencies that WiMax was created to run on. LTE will run on 1900Mhz just like the current network that AT&T runs so if they had no WiMax plans they wouldn't have needed the spectrum.
CDMA was originally developed to run on 850 and 1900 mHz respectively, but it still isn't the sole technology that runs in those frequencies.
I said that AT&T participated in the government auction to purchase 2.5GHz spectrum which is the main spectrum that will be used for WiMax in the U.S. LTE is being designed to be a GSM technology which will run on the 1900MHz just like it does now. For any of the WiMax players this means that they won't be using the 1900Mhz anymore..
So, why does AT&T need 2.5GHz spectrum to run LTE on 1900MHz frequencies?
I hadn't heard of anything being restricted to a certain frequency by the creators. I'm pretty sure LTE will run in Europe, and it won't be on 1900 mHz!!
Mustang46L said:
I'm not sure if you were following the conversation.
I said that AT&T participated in the government auction to purchase 2.5GHz spectrum which is the main spectrum that will be used for WiMax in the U.S. LTE is being designed to be a GSM technology which will run on the 1900MHz just like it does now. For any of the WiMax players this means that they won't be using the 1900Mhz anymore..
So, why does AT&T need 2.5GHz spectrum to run LTE on 1900MHz frequencies?
Good point.
algorithmplus said:
One could argue that Sprint and Verizon do not have good plans in place because they are currently focusing on proprietary networks (EV-DO and WiMax are not compatible with GSM or WCDMA used worldwide), and therefore are less interested in a common future *standard*.
You mean, kind of like how CDMA was supposed to be 'teh doom' of Verizon and Sprint because GSM is more popular overseas?
Yeah, that didn't really happen. Face it, most US customers don't really care what people use elsewhere. If they did, CDMA wouldn't be more popular than GSM in the US. Yet it is.
EVDO/UMB and WiMax will be just fine, I'm sure. 🙂
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Also, business is becoming more worldwide because of faster and cheaper communication and has nothing to do with people traveling more, actually we travel less now due to cost of fuel. So, the fact is that less and less people need a worldwide phone.
The big businesses and governments (governments often don't spend wisely), are the ones who put a lot of money into stuff like that. Do you think 6:01 am is really "peak time" for most consumers? It's considered "peak time" for the use from businesses more than anything. Just after 7:00 and 9:00 on weeknights are truly peak time, as consumers overload the networks using "off peak minutes."
Hate to admit it it, but the bread and butter of the market is more mundane than that... Joe Sixpack, soccer moms, twenty-something slacker types and the like. Tell them they can roam in Europe and they'll go, "That's nice. So... how's your reception in Fresno?" 😁
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