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1900Mhz only...

SprintPCSGuy

Jun 14, 2007, 9:38 AM
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Sucks for roaming. Alltel and VZW use mostly 850 Mhz... so this phone is a no go for me.

I like to take week long fishing trips in northern AZ. I'm needing my Alltel roaming coverage.
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dublea

Jun 14, 2007, 9:44 AM
The reason why is the iDEN technology, its one of the smallest networks out there. The sprint side of the coverage makes up for it, but the no roaming would suck in those low coverage areas.
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NoanswersonlyQs

Jun 14, 2007, 9:53 AM
FALSE.. MORE FALSE and even MORE FALSE.... the iden network is not one of the smallest out there... look at the hybrid coverage map you'll notice plenty of spaces where PTT will work and cdma voice calling on the 1900 mhz network will not... nextel had no roaming agreements with other companies but the Iden network being fully contained was one of the largest... sprint and vzw and all tell have suce large coverage because they roam on each others networks... but as far as what they own themselves is pretty much comparable to the iden network..
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bnpballer

Jun 14, 2007, 10:02 AM
well roaming or not it alot smaller so keep your IDEN fanboy love to yourself because your comments are of no relevance 😲
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NoanswersonlyQs

Jun 14, 2007, 1:48 PM
its larger.. and its not fanboyism its truth.. and the truth is always relevant.. your just mad because im right and ur unimportant 🤣
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en102

Jun 15, 2007, 10:30 AM
iDEN may have one of the largest non roaming networks in the country, but because it can't roam where there is no iDEN, my Nextel BB 7510 becomes a paperweight in places like northern Michigan, Wyoming, Montana, Nebraska, Iowa, North Dakota, South Dakota and Maine.
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dublea

Jun 14, 2007, 11:31 AM
Your always going to have areas that one service is going to work and another won't. I wasn't talking about the network as a self contained network, that doesn't matter to a user when they don't charge roaming. Sprint, Vzw, and AT&T have a larger footprint and cover more area than Iden alone. SO, what I stated wasn't false, it justn't isn't how you look at it.
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jrfdsf

Jun 14, 2007, 12:23 PM
It's true that Nextel does not have good coverage nationwide, but the question always is, where do you live and where will you use your phone the most?

What good is it to me if VZW works in Montana and Alaska and a standard IDEN phone won't if I neither live or travel there? Verizon, for example, won't pick up inside my house or in the building where I work either, and that is where I spend the vast majority of my time.

Let's say for the sake of argument that I do plan a trip to one of the above mentioned places and have no coverage. I probably would spend a maximum of one week there and then return home. Out of a 365 day year, I will have been without cellular coverage for 7 days. That's less than 2% of the entire calendar year I'm wi...
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NoanswersonlyQs

Jun 14, 2007, 1:47 PM
no its false because IDEN network is the largest network of any carrier... DO RESEARCH 😁
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Mustang46L

Jun 14, 2007, 10:24 AM
Actually Verizon has been putting up 1900Mhz towers for years. When they first went digital they used the 850Mhz because they already owned those licenses because that is the frequency their analog network ran on.

So, 1900Mhz isn't a big deal. It isn't 1999 anymore.
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SprintPCSGuy

Jun 14, 2007, 11:16 AM
It's a big enough deal when you live in AZ. 😢
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jrfdsf

Jun 14, 2007, 12:29 PM
You probably would do better with a regular Sprint phone (tri-band) which now comes with free M2M. If Nextel doesn't work well in your area, then you shouldn't use it, hybrid or regular.

Verizon has horrible coverage where I work and live, so, I don't have it. It's all about what works best for you, regardless of what others may say.
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SprintPCSGuy

Jun 14, 2007, 12:33 PM
Well... I know that. I have been with Sprint for a few years now... but the Nextel Direct Connect always intrigued me. It seems to work sooo well. So, when Sprint merged with Nextel, I knew some sort of hybrid phone would eventually happen... just kinda disappointed that they left out 850 Mhz CDMA. Dealbreaker for me.
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jrfdsf

Jun 14, 2007, 12:45 PM
It's all about what works best for you where you live. I have no problems with anyone saying that Nextel doesn't work where they need it to, so that's why they don't have it.

The main reason these phones don't have the 850 roaming is because of interference issues. You see, PCS and SMR signals won't interrupt one another, or bleed over, but Nextel and other cellular frequencies do, thus no 850 roaming.

If you've ever used a Nextel phone near a cordless landline, you'll understand why. I've even seen people on nearby cell phones drop calls when someone close to them was conversing on their Nextel. Nobody wants to be talking on their phone, and someone beep in, and the call drops. Remember, both services are working simultaneously, rathe...
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jrfdsf

Jun 14, 2007, 12:56 PM
Would be to design a hybrid phone with 850 CDMA roaming that "shuts off" the direct connect when there is no PCS signal for the phone, even if an IDEN signal is present. Basically, such a phone would have a smaller walkie-talkie coverage area than a standard Nextel phone, but a much larger voice area.

The problem with such a phone would be added drain to the battery which is already maxed out with the phone's current design, and the overall added quirkiness and unreliability experienced in doing such a design. The engineers probably figured less complicated was better.

For that matter, many have complained that the IDEN portion of the phone is unavailable for voice coverage, but there again, the more design complications you add, the m...
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supremecellgod

Jun 15, 2007, 3:42 AM
Hey what part of the HOT AZ are you from?
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muchdrama

Jun 14, 2007, 3:21 PM
Mustang46L said:
Actually Verizon has been putting up 1900Mhz towers for years. When they first went digital they used the 850Mhz because they already owned those licenses because that is the frequency their analog network ran on.

So, 1900Mhz isn't a big deal. It isn't 1999 anymore.


Glad to see someone's rational.
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Mustang46L

Jun 14, 2007, 4:04 PM
LOL, thanks. 🙂
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algorithmplus

Jun 14, 2007, 8:02 PM
Again, it depends. There are many areas of the midwest and west where 1900 signal is quite poor, but 850 is quite strong. This is especially true of CDMA coverage.
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