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Jayshmay

Jun 14, 2007, 9:24 AM
This is really, really pathetic that Sprint is asking for funding, they can't build out they're own network like every other carrier?!?!?
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SprintPCSGuy

Jun 14, 2007, 9:45 AM
If you think that other carriers don't have companies invest in their network, you are dreaming. And maybe companies like ::cough:: T-Mobile ::cough:: would have better coverage if they had some others invest in making thier network better. T-Mobile doesn't even have 3G yet, and Sprint is already working on 4G (WiMax).

Also... I would like to point out that Qualcomm is the one funding the MediaFLO coverage that is VCAST TV.
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Jayshmay

Jun 14, 2007, 9:55 AM
Doesn't Qualcomm own MediaFLO network?
Also, all T-Mobile USA needs to do is ask it's parent in Germany for $$$, but yeah, T-Mobile is way, way, way behind.

Anyway, I understand Cingular is going to be using Qualcomm's MediaFLO technology also, and supposedly Cingular is launching MobileTv in the 4th Qtr of this year, I just hope that ends up being the case.
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bnpballer

Jun 14, 2007, 10:09 AM
Cingular=WiSux 😳
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Jayshmay

Jun 14, 2007, 10:11 AM
Who are you with?

Cingular isn't controlling of they're handsets!!

Cingular has rollover.

I've been with Cingular for 5 and a half years.
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snang

Jun 14, 2007, 10:12 AM
Rollover is the biggest joke over.
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Jayshmay

Jun 14, 2007, 10:13 AM
Why do you say that!!!???

Heck, we pay enough as it is for both minutes, and data, any bit helps!!!
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algorithmplus

Jun 14, 2007, 6:43 PM
Well, there are millions of people who won't switch away from Cingular because of it.

Sprint's continued investment in the antiquated Nextel network is the biggest joke ever. Sprint should have concentrated on Qchat, then migrated Nextel over to Sprint, and shut down Nextel, then being able to focus on EV-DO and WiMax.

Maybe Sprint management sees a bright future in iDEN? I'm surprised there's any future in iDEN.
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bnpballer

Jun 14, 2007, 10:28 AM
I have AT&Tingular and its crap. They have an OK phone selection but they're way overpriced and i dont even want to talk about customer care, or lack there of. 😛
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mcfadonna

Jun 14, 2007, 11:06 AM
I dont think you even have a job let alone AT&T. Look i dont know how this turn into a AT&T VS Sprint topic. But i will say this. I had Sprint for 5 years befor i switched to Cingy. Sprint will always be in the lead when it comes to data cause they do it right. But when it comes to Phone coverage sprint doesnt hold a candle to Verizon or AT&T. Also come on the best and most reliable phone Sprint has is the Sanyo. The rest of that crap sux. Also being able to buy a phone unlocked and not even have to talk to AT&T to get it working is awesome. Like i said as far as Data goes Sprint always makes sure it works before they turn it on. But The freedom of GSM far outdoes that. I not trying to change peoples minds about AT&T but How would you ...
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Jayshmay

Jun 14, 2007, 12:23 PM
Yeah, I definetly concur.

I have an unlocked phone also, the Sharp V903.
And I pay my bill over the automated system, so I very rarely deal with any cust. service reps.

I've been with Cingular for 5 and a half years.
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sprintboy42

Jun 14, 2007, 12:40 PM
🤣 🤣 🤣

Wow, i will agree that sprint sucked a few years ago, but you must compare to the here and now. Sprint has great coverage. In fact, they are nearly identical to verizon, who has "the largest voice network" Cingular falls short of both of them on data and voice coverage because of them being GSM. Now for those complaining that sprint is crappy for needing to get more funding, wow lets know what we are talking about before we speak. Thats what big boys do!! Every carrier gets funding some way or another to build out, and what is even funnier is that sprint is the only company that owns every tower on there network. You cannot say that about verizon or cingular, they rent tower space. So just because sprint has a ...
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phoenixms

Jun 14, 2007, 1:15 PM
Sprint does contract coverage from third party carriers.
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sprintboy42

Jun 14, 2007, 2:29 PM
yes i know this, it is called roaming. But on the network that is theres, they build the towers and place there equipment on those towers they build, where as every other company rents tower space to save money, but when money gets tight they take there equipment off to save money.
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algorithmplus

Jun 14, 2007, 7:34 PM
Except for affiliate companies...Sprint doesn't own those towers (yet).
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wombough

Jun 16, 2007, 1:48 AM
true sprint owns their own towers however they often do not own the land they are on!
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Jayshmay

Jun 14, 2007, 1:31 PM
Other than the chargers, which when it comes to data, Cingular is horrible what they charge for data. But what is it that YOU think is so bad about GSM data, what's wrong with HSDPA???

And by the way, I wouldn't consider Cingular's 3G network all that new anymore really, it covers a lot of networks now, and they have a good selection of 3G handsets now,. . . so personally, I wouldn't consider Cinulars 3G network all that new.

T-Mobile though, has a whole lot of catching up to do though, heck, it'll be the 1st QTR of 2009 by the time they're anywhere close to Cingular, when it comes to 3G handsets.
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gsmrulz

Jun 14, 2007, 3:12 PM
I wish CDMA carriers would stop talking about "Voice Coverage", call a spade a spade. What you should say is "Analog Coverage" and come February 08 that goes away! then what will you call it. And last time I checked Sprints financial report stated they "owned" and oporated a little over 26,000 "digital" towers. Guess how many AT&T own and Oporates, over 42,000. Now i'm not a math major, but I do believe that 42,000 is more than 26,000.
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digitmasher

Jun 14, 2007, 3:23 PM
You don't appear to be an English major either.
The reason why Cingular has more towers is because the coverage radius of a GSM tower isn't as large as that of a CDMA tower.
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gsmrulz

Jun 14, 2007, 4:18 PM
CDMA tower coverage certainly isn't double that of a GSM tower. Not to mention it has a lot more to do with the frequency used and the overall height of the tower itself than the technology used. Or just look at your own "digital map versus AT&T's coverage. Now granted the POPs coverage is very close between all 3 only because Sprint does do a good job in the metro areas, but even there AT&T has the advantage.
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algorithmplus

Jun 14, 2007, 7:41 PM
Actually, the number of towers really doesn't mean anything.

In a market where Sprint, Verizon, or Cingular have a high market share (where it's penetrated), they may have to add additional towers to grid to help with capacity. No matter how much spectrum you have, there is a limit on how many users a tower can have. Plus, sometimes companies add additional towers not for spectrum relief, but for coverage where they receive adequate customer complaints.

Sprint isn't stupid on tower placement, and neither is Verizon or Cingular.

Plus, sometimes companies would like to add towers in areas, but there is a huge outrage from local residents, (NIMBY's...Not In My Back Yard). When there is too much protest or zoning isn't right, the ...
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elgee02

Jun 15, 2007, 1:00 AM
Dude not this crap again. I have no idea why you seem to believe that CDMA is so alalog heavy becuase it's certainly not.

I am not as familiar with Sprint but if VZW was so analog dependent as you claim, then why the hell have we been phasing out tri-mode phones for the past 3 years? AT LEAST 90% of all the phones VZW sold the past 12 months have been all digital, yet people still get reception all in all the spots our coverage maps claim.

I know you're anti CDMA but if your gonna bash it at least have something more credible than that. 🙄
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algorithmplus

Jun 14, 2007, 7:33 PM
Wow, all I hear about Sprint/Nextel in Florida are complaints.

Plus, AT&T and Verizon make a killing on their wireless businesses, so I wouldn't worry about whether they rent or own towers, as long as the coverage is there. Sprint relies on Alltel and Verizon for a lot of roaming...Sprint doesn't own those towers!

I can't speak for Sprint nationwide, but in Florida they get tons of complaints. Everyone I know has Cingular, so there are some overlaoding problems every now and then, but they seem to add capacity to help. Verizon is neutral here, it's not one of their strongest parts.
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SprintPCSGuy

Jun 14, 2007, 12:37 PM
I beg to differ. While VZW or AT&T have Sprint beat on NATIVE coverage, Sprint has them beat when it comes to TOTAL coverage. Roaming isn't really a factor anymore when roaming is free and everything works (text, data, etc) while roaming.
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sprintboy42

Jun 14, 2007, 12:41 PM
😲 cant argue with the facts 😲
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algorithmplus

Jun 14, 2007, 7:44 PM
Actually, in terms of roaming, AT&T has Sprint beat by a long shot. Let's travel the world and see who has the most coverage.

For some people, it doesn't really matter whether or not there is roaming coverage in Europe or Africa. But for some people, coverage is priceless, and CDMA carriers can't match the GSM carriers. It all depends on the individual.

Maybe sometime in the future, CDMA2000 and LTE will end up being able to merge, but I doubt Qualcomm would allow that. Oh well.
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Jonathanlc2005

Jun 17, 2007, 3:28 PM
ok sprint is doing very well so far with the roll out of rev a and since wimax will be a nice product i feel that asking for people to help out will be great because of a faster roll out. in my idea though i feel they are asking for help because they plan on purchase some of the alltel towers from the purchasers. what do you think?
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ndragisic

Jun 14, 2007, 11:06 AM
Damn. Sprint should buy Clearwire now before they can no longer afford it. You could get clearwire right now for about 1.2 billion and then use the clearwire motorola contract for the 3 billion to build out the network.
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