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Sprint to Launch Commercial WiMAX Network In 2Q 2008

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Big Deal......

nuckingfuts

May 22, 2007, 11:13 AM
It's still not as fast as HSDPA will be
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japhy

May 22, 2007, 11:26 AM
It's going to be up & running far faster than the eventual 7.2 mbps HSPA upgrade is ready for Cingular/[acronym]. Plus, it's a step forward in technology, not just a point increase for something we already have. I suspect it won't be long before more companies announce plans involving WiMAX.
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nuckingfuts

May 22, 2007, 11:28 AM
Only in 3 cities, and I doubt anyone else will offer it with all the $$ being spend on EVDO and HSDPA enhancements
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maokh

May 22, 2007, 12:06 PM
I wouldn't get too excited. WiMax, especially WiMax in non-fixed applications, is extremely lousy.
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Jayshmay

May 22, 2007, 3:45 PM
What exactly does that meean "non fixed application"?

I thought one of the benefits of WiMax is it has a much greater range, and I believe I've read that the speeds are quite high, like 36mbps, and 72mbps.

That's not the speeds I heard Sprint is going to launch with though, something like 2-3mbps.
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Jonathanlc2005

May 22, 2007, 5:39 PM
um buddy its not the same as clearwire if you trying to compare them
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algorithmplus

May 22, 2007, 7:32 PM
I don't know about that. I mean, it is a step in the right direction, and a new choice is good for consumers. However, at one time weren't TDMA and iDEN thought to be the voice networks of the future? It may work for Sprint/affiliates, but it may not be for everybody.
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Mustang46L

May 22, 2007, 12:18 PM
10 Mbit/s down isn't all that bad I don't think.. and it DOES seem faster than AT&T's standard 3.6 Mbit/s. Oh and wait, did we remember that WiMax can do 10 Mbit/s upload as well? Lets see HSDPA do that.
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nuckingfuts

May 22, 2007, 12:31 PM
HSDPA has (theoretical) limit of 28.8 mbps, and HSUPA will address the upload issues....... now, on a different note, who really needs sppeds that fast anyway?

Wimax is not capable of 10 mbps, at least not according to any legit source I have seen
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maokh

May 22, 2007, 12:36 PM
...lets see WiMax do that mobile without a large, fixed, directional antenna pointing at the tower.
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Mustang46L

May 22, 2007, 2:22 PM
Depending on the frequency used, they have a 50km radius.. On the 2.5GHz frequency they will broadcast about 5km, so that should do. Remember that WiMax transmits much like WiFi in that it doesn't have to be as directional as we used to be.
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maokh

May 22, 2007, 3:30 PM
In order to get the system to work at the highest QAM available, you need to have everyone operating with the best system operating margin. Otherwise, it will force all users down to a lower QAM rate, effectively reducing the total capacity of the system.

A cool sounding PHY/MAC (such as WiMax) does not change any laws of physics. a 50km radius would be absolutely ridiculous. Client radios arent going to have 24dBi parabolics, they are going to have 0-1 dBi whip antennas operating mobile in a crap environment with a lot of urban clutter. You can barely get 5km out of that with WiMax -- even at 700MHz. 50km operation requires line of sight.

At the end of the day, you will be lucky if WiMax operates at today's cellular rates. Othe...
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wombough

May 22, 2007, 4:21 PM
They wouldn't be launching it if it sucks. They I think know allot more then anyone here. Also who needs those speeds? Tell that to Japan were I am right now were in most places get well over 100mbs for high speed internet. There phones are awsome to as you can video call. I saw that for the first time the other day!
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algorithmplus

May 22, 2007, 7:36 PM
wombough said:
They wouldn't be launching it if it sucks. They I think know allot more then anyone here.


Well, they supposedly know how to strategically execute a smooth merger.
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wombough

Jun 17, 2007, 11:34 PM
you try and merge apples with oranges and see if you get a smooth merger!
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Mustang46L

May 22, 2007, 2:25 PM
Actually if you read the WiMax white papers it has a theoretical of 75 mbps, but that is on the 50GHz frequency band which we won't be using yet because the FCC didn't clear those for use.

And who needs the speed? Well, being that WiMax is going to be marketed as an alternative to FTTP since Verizon and the other landlines can't seem to get it done, a lot of people will love it. I don't care how you get the broadband to my house, as long as it gets there.
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Versed

May 22, 2007, 9:21 PM
I use Cingy for voice and Sprint on my notebook, and for several reason's, Sprint has evdo-a in my area, Cingy doesn't have HSDPA down by me yet. Second, I get a 25% discount on the plan, which means it cost me like 48 bux with all taxes, if I can get WiMax for the same price, I will route it and use it in my home as well and toss Comcast Cable modem.

If by the time my contract gives out, Cingy has hsdpa running fast and with a usb adapter, so I can use it on my macbook and toshiba notebook, I will switch. I use what works, I can couldn't care less who's providing it nor the technology.
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Jonathanlc2005

May 22, 2007, 11:45 PM
cingular is a good network but for regular internet like gaming and regular multimedia i wouldnt recommend cingular since your limited before getting charged from what i read on the terms and conditions. just looking out for you bud.

hows the sprint data card working for you?
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monkeyracer

May 23, 2007, 6:17 PM
how do you get a discount on a plan that specifically states:

"no additional discounts apply"

or are you just saying that because you want us to think you are mr. cool stuff?
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monkeyracer

May 23, 2007, 6:40 PM
I wanted to say a few things:

HSDPA/HSUPA will be cool whenever it's finally launched, But I think the apocalypse is scheduled sooner...

WiMax provides Cable broadband speeds, but wirelessly. Theoretical speeds are cool, but theoretically my car can go the speed of light. REAL WORLD speeds are what matter. If I can get 13 Mbps up AND down, while driving, than sweet, I'm stoked with the 1 mbps that I get now with evdo.

You guys seem afraid of this new technology and want to knock it down to make yourself feel better. Just because it's never been done before doesn't mean it can't be done. Sprint has been the quickest to roll out EVDO (or any wireless broadband service for that matter...) and will continue with this. Three citie...
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algorithmplus

May 27, 2007, 3:15 PM
I'm not saying that Sprint buying Nextel was a bad idea, but once they had it, Sprint didn't manage the merger very well.

A big part of the merger is what everything looks like in the eyes of the consumers. The current Sprint looks like it doesn't know how to manage the resources it has very well, and it is seen in consumers.

I do software work for companies, often after a merger or acquisition to help integrate them. I haven't work on Sprint/Nextel, so I won't comment on them, but I will comment on Wachovia Bank. First Union had a terrible merger with CoreStates that pretty much destroyed its name, losing 20% of its customers with a problem ridden merger. Then, when First Union bought Wachovia, they took the time and did all t...
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Jonathanlc2005

May 28, 2007, 12:54 PM
they way they are going on right now is fine. hyrbrids is a great way to do a slow and easy migration, not the hard att one.

evdo rev a first was to let everyone know sprint has the best data and wants to be first to introduce wimax

hybrids are the slow and painfree way of migrating them to sprint. first to show that sprint coverage with a nextel phone and soon a sprint phone with PTT. its showing nextel people that sprint CDMA works well too and people are knowing it. this is where Qchat comes in.

sprint did hurt for 2 years but now are doing pretty well. my area is shentel and were doing fantastic. there is always people who dont know sprint or havent tried it so those are the people we want to sign up and they will spread the wo...
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