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Take that, Cingy.

honzik

Apr 17, 2007, 12:27 PM
I love this line:

Although this handset will work on parts of Cingular's 3G network, it is not slated for sale in the US.

Can you blame Nokia for holding back after the severe burns that it got for trying to market the N75 through Cingular?
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dancedjeric

Apr 17, 2007, 12:37 PM
honzik said:
I love this line:

Although this handset will work on parts of Cingular's 3G network, it is not slated for sale in the US.

Can you blame Nokia for holding back after the severe burns that it got for trying to market the N75 through Cingular?


honzik, obviously you were not aware of the new Nokia HSDPA smartphone that is coming to Cingular this year. All carriers negotiate with each manufacturer and sometimes they pick up a device, and sometimes they leave it.
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Jayshmay

Apr 17, 2007, 1:12 PM
Carriers need to mind they're own business when it comes to which handsets will be on they're notwork, and which ones won't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cable companies don't make decisions for they're customers as to which tvs are exceptable and which are not!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have been using a tri-band phone on Cingular's network for 1yr now, no problems at all, Sharp V903, ANY GSM phone will work!!!!!!

Us Cingular customers are missing out on the BEST handsets in the world.

The Nokia N95 is quad band, BUT still not good enough for Cingular!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bigbmc26

Apr 17, 2007, 1:43 PM
the n95 isn't HSDPA 850/1900. it's not about being good enough. that was a stupid comment. 😕 nokia has on produced a handful of phones that have the UMTS 850/1900 band built in and trust me, we tested them. the battery life was horrible on the 6282, plus it wasn't HSDPA. nokia needs to step back up to the plate and build equipment like they used to for cingular and stop passing us crap!
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Jayshmay

Apr 17, 2007, 2:19 PM
It wasn't a stupid comment.

I'm sick of waiting, and waiting, and waiting for Cingular to have a mobile phone that is worth having.

The rest of the world has better handsets everyone knows that.

That's why I have an unlocked GSM phone, Sharp V903, because Cingular refuses to have just as good handsets as the rest of the world.

I have a 3.2mp camera phone with auto-focus, how much ----LONGER---- will it be before a handset like mine is available on Cingulars network. I'm not waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bigbmc26

Apr 17, 2007, 4:10 PM
Your point is still moot. Cingular doesn't build handsets, the manufactures do. They also have to pass FCC requirements before a carry can use them. Most of the phones overseas don't have to meet FCC requirements. You are using a tri-band phone that doesn't work on half of Cingular's network. It great that you like it, but point in case, Sony Ericsson built 2 versions of it's cyber shoot 3.2mp phone. The k790 and the k800. the k790 was built fro the US market with no UMTS bands. They built the k800 with UMTS 2100 for overseas. Cingular isn't going to spend that kind of money on a phone that isn't built for it's 3g network that it's promoting! So to answer your question, when a manufacturer builds one for the US!
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Jayshmay

Apr 17, 2007, 4:23 PM
I don't know what to say other than that my tr-band phone works just fine, I live in Las Vegas, that's where I use it, and it works just fine.
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Bigbmc26

Apr 17, 2007, 4:35 PM
That's great, you're only picking up the 1900MHz network. There's a lot more 850MHz out there that may give you even better service. I made the sony point because I'm a sony freak, but I'm not spending another dime until the release a bar UMTS/HSDPA handset for the US. I guarantee that Cingular will pick it up!
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Jayshmay

Apr 17, 2007, 4:37 PM
Well, if it's a CyberShot handset, with 3.2mp auto-focus, I might consider it, of course there are many, many other specs that are a must, like stereo bt,. . . personally I prefer a flip, the screen is protected better
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Bigbmc26

Apr 17, 2007, 4:45 PM
Ha, I'm the exact opposite, I hate clamshells! Bar phone have always worked better for me. Plus everyone and their brother carry flips in the US. It's for my second phone, I need something small to fit in my pocket. I carry a 8525 for work. I really don't care about the camera, just bt, radio, & HSDPA! That's all I want in my sony.
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Jayshmay

Apr 17, 2007, 4:51 PM
I understand your point, it's nice to have something that not everyone else does.

I like the 8525, I just don't want to spend that much on a phone.

I just feel that the screen is protected better on flips.

By the way, I had the Sony T637, it was one of the best phones on market,. . . at the time, I was happy with it, things have come a long ways since the T637 came out, and we expect a lot, lot more out of a handset now a days.

Perhaps the 3rd or 4th qtr of this yr will bring an HSDPA handset from Sony on Cingular.
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johnnycashak

Apr 17, 2007, 5:38 PM
You still didn't answer as to why the cell technology Cingular sells is at least 2 years behind the rest of the world, or why they lock their network specific features down so tightly.

The consumers know it's just a money issue (selling two year old tech at cutting edge prices? yeah who wouldn't jump at that?) but it's getting old, fast.

I picked up an unlocked 810i and I love it, but I would like it more if it didn't require hours worth of forum trolling to find out how to get wireless internet to work on the cingular network. I'm paying for the network airtime, who cares what phone I choose use it with as long as I don't walk into a cingular store and expect handset specific customer support on an unsupported phone, whats the big d...
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Bigbmc26

Apr 17, 2007, 5:53 PM
You should know that answer, we're in America, not Europe! 🤣 American companies are out to make money and don't care about the consumer. All American companies think this way. That's just the culture here. Why do you think that there was an Enron scandal? I don't think that the Cingular is behind in technology. We chose not not launch UMTS without HSDPA, most European companies did. Once again, every phone in the US has to clear the FCC. Most phones overseas don't, plus OEM aren't making phones for the US market. They need to have GSM 850MHz, their not doing that with the cool phones overseas.

As for the network settings, you could've went to sonyericsson.com and got that. The have MMS and MediaNet settings. That was the easy one! 😁...
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Versed

Apr 17, 2007, 10:09 PM
SE will SMS your phone with the settings for the cost of an incoming text message. Nokia does the same. I have a Nokia 6270 which I bought sometime ago, went to Nokia's site, within a minute I got an SMS from Nokia, everything but voice mail was set. A quick call to 611 and they walked me through it and the voice mail number and access was set.

To be honest, the vast majority people who buy a mobile phone either take the freebie or want to pay like $50 or so tops. We here are far more picky and demand more.
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RUFF1415

Apr 17, 2007, 2:32 PM
Do TVs require specific tweaks to work with your cable provider? No.

Do you purchase your TVs through your cable provider? No.

Is it necessary to have cable service to utilize a TV? No.

Cable providers and TVs is not a logical analogy to cell phone providers and handsets. Thus far, carrier intervention in handset development is highly necessary for all features to work properly and to their fullest potential.

TVs aren't even in the same league.
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Jayshmay

Apr 17, 2007, 2:36 PM
I have an unlocked GSM phone, because what Cingular offers isn't good enough, and I have been using an unlocked GSM phone on Cingular's network for 1 year and it WORKS JUST FINE! ! !

No Cingular testing, and it works just fine.

And it has a 3.2mp auto-focus camera

A feature NONE of Cingulars phones offer.

Only crappy pin hole lens cameraphones with the exception of one handset the Sony Ericcson W810, that's it, one handset with auto focus.

The rest are crappy pin hole lens cameraphone!!!
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rafster

Apr 17, 2007, 8:31 PM
RUFF1415 said:
Do TVs require specific tweaks to work with your cable provider? No.

Do you purchase your TVs through your cable provider? No.

Is it necessary to have cable service to utilize a TV? No.

Cable providers and TVs is not a logical analogy to cell phone providers and handsets. Thus far, carrier intervention in handset development is highly necessary for all features to work properly and to their fullest potential.

TVs aren't even in the same league.


Actually... starting in like 2009 or something like that... you will have to buy an HDTV/Tuner if you want to get any kind of TV reception....

So.. it looks like things are gonna be chaning...

Rafster
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lancekalzas

Apr 17, 2007, 3:23 PM
I'm just wondering if all the exclamation points are necessary.....
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Jayshmay

Apr 17, 2007, 3:25 PM
I'm just really sick of waiting, and waiting for sophisticated, feature packed, impressive handsets in the U.S., that's all.
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bonecrusher

Apr 17, 2007, 5:42 PM
buy unlocked and unbranded...its the way to go
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Jayshmay

Apr 17, 2007, 5:49 PM
I have been using an unlocked handset for on the 26th of this month will be 1yr.

I use the Sharp V903.

Problem is I can't send/recieve pix on my handset because I don't have the proper MMS settings, or Cingular Media Net.

But otherwise, I am very, very happy to have a REAL cameraphone that has a 3.2mp auto-focus camera, rather than that pin hole lens camera crap that so, so many handsets out there have.
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bonecrusher

Apr 17, 2007, 10:00 PM
on my unlocked cingular 6682 I can send pic messages but I cant get on tzones
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lancekalzas

Apr 18, 2007, 4:37 AM
It does suck that features aren't guaranteed to work on unlocked handsets.
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bonecrusher

Apr 18, 2007, 12:32 PM
take the good with the bad...all things considered I am still satisfied. 😁
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honzik

Apr 17, 2007, 2:01 PM
I am not aware of any nokia offerings in the near future, although you have to admit, Cingular really dropped the ball on the N75. The buzz was in last September and the promise was that the N75 would be out by December. Then January. Then February. Then March. Now it's mid-April, people are clamoring for it, and rumor has it that it has been delayed due to rebranding (AT&T), or due to Cingular software problems.

So, maybe the new Nokia HSDPA smartphone slated for later this year will follow the same pattern, and be out in 2008.
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middlekid3058

Apr 17, 2007, 1:46 PM
OH GREAT ANOTHER $400 NOKIA PHONE that NO ONE WILL SELL! When will they wake up??
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bonecrusher

Apr 17, 2007, 5:42 PM
I would buy it
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jarcher2828

Apr 17, 2007, 5:53 PM
thats great, no carrier is selling it, so you would have to get it imported and all the data features would not work on any us network
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bonecrusher

Apr 17, 2007, 9:52 PM
its still a better phone than any of the other carriers are offering.
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kuno

Apr 19, 2007, 11:19 AM
What's the use of such a high end device if you can't use a handful of it's features? It's a crippled device if you have to import it since not all features will work on the network.
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bonecrusher

Apr 19, 2007, 11:50 AM
better camera, bigger display, mp3 ringtones...these things are worth the price of admission
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