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cremz

Apr 14, 2007, 1:54 PM
that sports cheer...OVERRATED *claps* OVERRATED
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zombie9

Apr 14, 2007, 3:23 PM
I fully agree, people are so blinded by freain apple.
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Anxiovert

Apr 14, 2007, 10:18 PM
It's seems like the only one blinded here is you. Just like the iPod revolutionized the music industry. The iPhone will finally make the American market understand that cell phones are not just for making and receiving calls.
OUTCOME:
-Finally those existing TDMA customers will upgrade to GSM equipment.
-ATT will dominate the industry by stealing the tech savvy customers that are still left in the other carriers. Europeans migrate the the US just to get their hands on the iPhone... (In the meantime the red check mark struggles teaching its customers how to use/pair a BT headset to their phones) 🤣
-Sprint finally gives up and changes its name to Boost Wireless 🤣 Only to realize that by doing this the newly acquired image chang...
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cremz

Apr 15, 2007, 11:25 AM
You're thinking that the iphone is going to drive in everyone in to buy them? Until they see the sticker shock on the phone itself with the lack of features (no 3g is a biggie) and the $45/month data they are going to jump at it??? You really think this is going to be sellable to 60% of the current customer base, and help drive the 70 yr old woman who has a $19.99/month TDMA plan to migrate to GSM. You sir are blinded.
It is a cool phone but unlike the RAZR this does not have as close to mass appeal. It will sell, but no where near as well. Everyone at my store is downselling everyone to an 8525 or a 3125, because people don't want to pay $100/month or more just to have an iphone.
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RUFF1415

Apr 15, 2007, 10:24 PM
cremz said:
Everyone at my store is downselling everyone to an 8525 or a 3125, because people don't want to pay $100/month or more just to have an iphone.

Who pays for their handset by the month?!
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smcgarvey6

Apr 16, 2007, 3:58 AM
I think that he is saying that the phone plan is going to be that much per month. Probably a $40 voice plan and a $40 data plan and all applicable taxes. 🙂
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RUFF1415

Apr 16, 2007, 2:33 PM
No, I don't believe that's what he was referring to as you would have to pay the same monthly fees with any other data-oriented phone.

He sounds confused to me.
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cremz

Apr 17, 2007, 1:47 PM
Not confused. The original poster believed that the iphone would get all the TDMA customers and others to convert to Cingular because of the coveted iphone. I think it's overrated and over priced. If I am paying $40 a month on data and $60 on 900 min (thus the $100/month) I would get something with better features for the price (8525 or treo750). Customers are very blind to the fact that this phone requires the PDA unlimited to get the phone and it is completely pointless phone that everyone wants but doesnt comprehend what is needed to get it. People are going to flock in to get the iphone and the second I tell them it requires the $40/month data they suddenly "don't like it".
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RUFF1415

Apr 17, 2007, 2:37 PM
I have heard no details of it requiring the $40/month data plan to purchase it. Where are you getting this information? Or is this an assumption?
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cremz

Apr 18, 2007, 10:54 AM
Any PDA device to get the full discounted/rebates price requires the PDA connect and a 2yr contract. (From previous threads and news releases, they initially will not be selling the iphone outright so the only way to get it is to sign up for 2 yrs) Working for Cingy for a couple of years has led me to consitently believe that this will follow suit with any other PDA they have released. If the iphone isn't a PDA device please let me know.

Plus With such an innovative phone creating so much buzz, wouldn't you think they would require it?

They require media max on about half of the phones we sell why would they change the rules for just this phone/PDA?

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Crunchy Frog

Apr 17, 2007, 9:01 AM
There's a big assumption here that people will pony up the $500-$600 required just to get one and that they will like the phone at all. It looks great for geeks, but average users will balk at the price and complexity of the device.
In the final analysis, the iPhone may end up being more 'evolutionary' than 'revolutionary'.
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gsmrulz

Apr 16, 2007, 5:36 PM
Apparently they have every other wireless company scared to death, don't believe me check out the articles in CTIA.org & business weekly: (I guess Sprint & Verizon lovers/employees will just say that these two news sources are just rumor mills and hearsay fabricators)
From CTIA SmartBrief on 04/06/2007
IPhone creating "mad dash" for customers
Although Apple's iPhone is still two months away, the industry effects of the device can already be felt. Carriers like Sprint and Verizon are cutting prices on both plans and phones in an attempt to secure new customers before the Apple offering hits stores. BusinessWeek (04/16)
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dublea

Apr 17, 2007, 5:16 PM
Umm... Sprint, nor Verizon has lowered phone or plan prices in the last 6 months. I see the plan and phone prices daily where I work, they haven't decreased at all. The only thing I've seen is better add-on costs such as text msging and interntet.
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Caliphane

Apr 15, 2007, 1:41 PM
I hope someday everyone realizes the iPhone has NOTHING NEW. Not only that but they would realize that for the same price you can buy like a 30 gig iPod plus a really nice phone on a network that doesn't suck. I love Mac fanboys because Mac just rips off all their money for basically a stripped down Windows computer with less features for more money. Mac is a ripoff period nice products and everything but $1200 for a 13" laptop and 600 for a 6 gig iPhone? Big time rip off.
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buckeye12

Apr 15, 2007, 3:20 PM
So you're saying that the 1,299 Macbook is a ripoff?


that's interesting because I can't seem to find a better deal from dell/hp/gateway/compaq/asus/

what are you basing that assumption on?
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RUFF1415

Apr 15, 2007, 10:27 PM
I'm not agreeing by saying that Apple's products are overpriced...

But if you can't find a better deal on a laptop from HP, Dell, Gateway, Acer or any PC manufacturer for that matter you definitely can't be looking hard enough.
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buckeye12

Apr 16, 2007, 6:28 AM
Show me one then


add a camera to any pc laptop and watch the price go up

and don't forget to add a remote for media center either

oh and backup dvd's cause all the pc guys charge your for them now
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RUFF1415

Apr 16, 2007, 2:45 PM
Go to HP's website and customize any dv6000t series laptop.

You can get a 15" HD display, 1.3 MP integrated webcam with mic, 2048MB DDR2 memory, 160GB HD, DVD+/-RW Double Layer Lightscribe Drive, integrated graphics card with a remote included all for the same price as Apple's cheapest MacBook offering.

Features included in the MacBook for comparison:

13" WXGA dispaly (2" short of the HP)
1.8GHZ Core 2 Duo processor (identical to the HP)
512MB DDR2 memory (25% of the HP's memory)
60GB HD (100GB short of the HP)
CD-RW/DVD drive (lacks double layer support and DVD writing capabilities)
64MB of shared video memory

And that's just with one configuration from one company!
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buckeye12

Apr 16, 2007, 3:49 PM
15inch HD Display? HP's 15 is at the same resolution as Apples Macbook yea 2 inches smaller but MUCH more crisp ... also not everyone likes carrying around a 15inch screen

Your facts are just dead wrong buddy I just built the system you've identified and it was way over 1,099 for a macbook

oh and you can't get wireless n networking with that hp model like the macbooks have

oh and it doesn't run os x nor does it come with tons of professional quality software (iLife)

And the hp doesn't have the sudden motion sensor feature for the hard drive either. Or the magsafe power connector
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RUFF1415

Apr 16, 2007, 11:00 PM
I'm looking at the configuration and price as I type this! You can continue to be blind to reality if you'd like, but that's your loss. Not mine or anyone else's.

MacBooks are overrated and overpriced. I won't speak on any other Apple products because I don't feel the same way.
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buckeye12

Apr 16, 2007, 11:41 PM
How are they over rated and over priced? Have you ever even owned a Macbook? $1,099 is over priced?!?!

1 it actually comes with reinstall DVD
2 it has higher grade screen making its resolution more crisp than the computer you picked
3 MagSafe power connector as a security feature
4 Apple's software suite (Anything comparable on a PC would be hundreds of $$$)
5 Sudden motion sensor parks your hard drive when it senses the computer tilt fast (like during a fall) Only lenovo besides Apple offers this feature
6 Its 1.08 inches thin! Have you seen your notebook? One word - - Ugly
7 The newest standard of wireless networking built in STANDARD Wireless N
8. at 5.2 Pounds and 6 hours of battery life

again how are they overrated ?
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RUFF1415

Apr 16, 2007, 11:51 PM
All of the innovative little features are nice, but I'd like to have features that are actually going to be useful and productive.

I don't know about you but the lack of a hard drive bigger than 80GB and a DVD burner in a laptop at that price pretty much shoots down the idea of it being a viable system from the start.

As far as the screen goes, the quality is nearly identical in each computer (and yes, I have a friend who is a Mac fanboy so I've seen and used it). The software is a non-issue if you already own it (which I and most people probably do by now). Also, I'm not sure which laptop you're exactly referring to because this particular model is far from ugly. In fact, the black resin finish and the chassis in general were redesign...
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buckeye12

Apr 17, 2007, 12:09 AM
Operating System Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit)

Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo T5600(1.83GHz/2MB L2Cache)

Display 15.4" WXGA BrightView Widescreen (1280x800)

Graphics Card Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator 950 - Core
Personalization HP Imprint Finish + Microphone + Webcam

Memory FREE Upgrade from 512MB to 1GB DDR2 (2x512MB)!!

Hard Drive FREE Upgrade from 60GB 5400 RPM to 80GB 5400 RPM

Primary CD/DVD Drive DVD/CD-RW Combo Drive

Networking Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network w/Bluetooth

TV & Entertainment Experience HP Expresscard TV Tuner for Windows Vista Notebook

Primary Battery High Capacity 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery

Productivity Software Micros...
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Lawless

Apr 17, 2007, 3:09 PM
Just so we understand each other i am not a macfanboi nor am i a PC fanatic.

But Apple offers useless extras on thier comps that you can easily do yourself, back up DvDs, make one your self, 60 gb of HD is hardly enough, not to mention most dont come standard with DVD players. Your right you do need 2+ GB of RAM to run vista well, thats why most people still use XP. And one last point...
Anyone here a gamer? Not with a Mac your not, you CANNOT use most of the best GFX cards with a mac, Nvidia or ATI.(Unless there as been a major update in the past 24 hours)

I have to say tho the MacBook does come with some nice software, but then again i have the same thing for my PC which i get at a fine discount.

Some prefer Mac, some prefer PC....
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buckeye12

Apr 17, 2007, 7:10 PM
So you're okay with people still using XP even though it is a horribly outdated operating system that is mauled with spyware and virus's

60 Gb of HD is perfect for anyone buying the low end model Macbook .... and I don't know a single person that has EVER wanted to play games with a macintosh .... even though you can dual boot with windows vista and use my ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 graphics with 128MB SDRAM in my Macbook pro to play any game you want perfect


I highly doubt the software for your pc is hardly as complete as iLife
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Lawless

Apr 18, 2007, 2:42 PM
Wow i know alot of people that play games wih a Mac, both desktops and laptops. Im not worried about the viruses and spyware, be smart about what you open in your email and have the right software on your comp and you safe, i happen to have a hardware firewall in place. And i said the Newest GFX cards available.

And yes my software colection is very well endowed. 🙂
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dublea

Apr 17, 2007, 5:22 PM
wrong, HP dv2000 model. Camera, Dual core @ 1.8ghz per core, 2gig ram, 120gig hd, and 256mb dedicated graphics... only $799... learn how to look, like walking into your local Bestbuy store. They are there, and they are low cost.
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buckeye12

Apr 17, 2007, 7:03 PM
Doesn't have wireless n networking, or bluetooth, or media center with remote


and it doesn't have vista premium so you don't even have the new vista interface
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buckeye12

Apr 15, 2007, 3:22 PM
one more thing


"Mac" isn't ripping anyone off ... simply because that company doesn't exist


I think you may be referring to Apple Inc. right?


Mac is a nickname for their Macintosh line of computers and the part of the name for their Operating System
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