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The end of CDMA?

BeachSlapped

Mar 22, 2007, 7:51 PM
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***If this petition gets denied***
I guess Sprint and Verizon now have to switch their networks to GSM 🙄 🤣 That's what they get for continuing to devote to a technology that will never be as widely available as GSM.

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stevelvl

Mar 22, 2007, 8:23 PM
or they could use a different chip set in there phone. like the samsung chip set or the moto chip set, just to name a couple. true the moto chip set is a waist of silicon but the samsung chip sets are very reliable in fact most qualicom chips are actually manufactured by samsumg. you also need to read the article. qualicom is not being sued because they stole cdma from broadcom they simply used to of there technology to make the chip more energy efficient. if the judge rules on broadcoms favor 2 possibilities 1. qualicom pays broadcom licensing fees on each chip they make, or.... 2. qualicom adapts there chip set so it does not infringe upon brodcoms technology.
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SPCSVZWJeff

Mar 22, 2007, 8:37 PM
When will you GSM fanboys realize that CDMA is here to stay.

For Sprint to go back to GSM is like America going back to outdoor plumbing.

UMTS is based on a Qualcomm technology.

I have a GSM phone and it's okay. I also have a CDMA phone and it is outstanding. Look for UMTS/HSDPA and CDMA to merge in upcoming generations.
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nextel18

Mar 22, 2007, 8:50 PM
Yea, everyone should know that CDMA is here to stay and you make a very good point with regarding HSDPA and UMTS because the many of the chipsets that are being used in devices are coming from Qualcomm’s HSDPA/UMTS patent portfolio. Not many people know that. They are growing market share on their competitors in this high growth area. Do not forget, they have essential OFDMA/Wimax patents too. They will not go anywhere. Worse comes to worst they will settle with Broadcom, but this shows how desperate Broadcom is. Check out today’s situation when Motorola reported their miss, Broadcom’s stock was leveled because the majority of their revenues are with Motorola. Qualcomm is mad because they are much diversified and was not impacted that much b...
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renardlee

Mar 22, 2007, 10:43 PM
i feel qualcomm has an asphyxiating grip on wireless networks in this country
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nextel18

Mar 22, 2007, 10:57 PM
In some regards they do, but if you look at global revenues for the wireless industry and compare it to Qualcomm’s revenue, you will see that that isn’t the case what so ever, but with regarding their patent profile they have thousands of patents that have been granted and thousands more pending ones, so with regarding that you are correct, however, it was given by the government because of their massive R&D dollars. They do have a dominating share in CDMA, but that is because they hold most/all of the CDMA patents out there or get paid for the royalties, however, they down have a majority share in the UMTS/HSDPA market yet, but within a few years they should. I don’t think you can hurt a company that has dominance in any industry especially...
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renardlee

Mar 24, 2007, 12:40 AM
is the federal government using qualcomm contracts or something, how does that work?
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nextel18

Mar 24, 2007, 1:09 PM
Here is the website that talks about Qualcomm’s relationship with the government. http://www.qualcomm.com/qgov/
“QUALCOMM's Government technologies (QGOV) provides government agencies and their contractors quality products, research, development and analytical expertise involving wireless communications leveraging QUALCOMM's technologies and core competencies. QGOV is dedicated to working with federal, state and local entities to develop specialized capabilities as well as leverage the advances in commercial wireless technology for the government's needs. With its secure, unparalleled voice and data capabilities, CDMA is a natural fit for government applications. A prime example is QUALCOMM's development of a secure CDMA wireless device ce...
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muchdrama

Mar 23, 2007, 12:55 PM
nextel18 said:

(Disclosure purposes; I do have shares in Qualcomm and others. Not Broadcom.)


Thank God you disclosed this info to us...we were about to turn you in.
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renardlee

Mar 22, 2007, 10:42 PM
im sorry UMTS was not made by qualcomm, its not even compatible, they only provide chipsets for cingular HSDPA/UMTS phones, and sorry to rain on your parade, Qualcomm didnt even invent CDMA, they developed wireless standards that use CDMA. UMTS/HSDPA are just CDMA versions of GSM.
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SPCSVZWJeff

Mar 23, 2007, 9:03 PM
The data core is GSM, that is because it would be too difficult to overlay traditional CDMA over GSM. The air interface is based on Qualcomm technology.
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renardlee

Mar 24, 2007, 12:54 AM
UMTS/HSDPA has unavoidable use of qualcomm's patent but it wasnt made on them and the common misconception is that W-CDMA is a wideband version of qualcomm's CDMA2000 (1x) standard, NTT DoCoMo(japanese carrier) was responsible for developing W-CDMA , and it is a completely different standard with their own specifications, qualcomm is simply collecting royalties for unavoidable use of their patents
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nextel18

Mar 22, 2007, 8:44 PM
No. they will not use another chipset from another company because Qualcomm is the best when it comes to CDMA and everyone knows that. Just look at their market share.


What is qualicom?
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stevelvl

Mar 22, 2007, 9:30 PM
nextel18 said:
No. they will not use another chipset from another company because Qualcomm is the best when it comes to CDMA and everyone knows that. Just look at their market share.


What is qualicom?


they already do use some phones that do not have the qualcomm chip set. moto uses its own chip set (which sucks) and nokia always used its own chip set (while not the best could hold its own against the qualcomm)

qualcomm is the best no one will argue that but they are not exclusive. not even with sprint.
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nextel18

Mar 22, 2007, 9:58 PM
Give me some examples of other chipsets they use besides/instead of QUALCOMM’s?

They aren’t exclusive with Sprint? Please give some examples.
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stevelvl

Mar 22, 2007, 10:09 PM
i did give you some examples. the nokia 3588 3585 6016 all used nokia's cdma chip set. razr and krazr use motos cdma chip set.
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nextel18

Mar 22, 2007, 10:26 PM
Please prove it.
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crossedsignals

Mar 24, 2007, 9:43 PM
Hmm...Amp'd mobile's website lists the RAZRs chipset as the MSM6500....a Qualcomm Chipset

Further corroboration (applies to the CDMA Q as well)
http://www.elecdesign.com/Articles/Index.cfm?AD=1&Ar ... »


GSM versions of the RAZR use Freescale (formerly Motorola) chipsets.
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nextel18

Mar 22, 2007, 8:42 PM
There will be a settlement so that will not be any issue. If the petition is denied then Broadcom might ask for more money or what not, but they do not want to destroy this market, which will probably cause massive hundreds of billions of dollars of losses.

It will be a lot of money to switch from CDMA to GSM especially with over 100 million+ customers, and do not forget about the United States Government who relies heavily on Qualcomm’s chips, especially in the CDMA platform.

Motorola, LG, and Kyocera do not want the ban either.

A ban will not happen because it harms too many customers.

Remember the potential Rimm or Blackberry ban in this country and it was settled for more money; that is what will happen.
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