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Cingular Launches First 3.6 Mbps HSDPA Handset

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Phone faster then network?

TradeMark_310

Jan 26, 2007, 10:44 PM
Wow, I can't wait to run out and buy a phone that is capable of fast download speeds that my network cant handle? Sign me up!

Oh, wait, the network CAN handle it, they just dont want to yet. Even better...
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colione112

Jan 26, 2007, 11:06 PM
I think the faster speeds will be available in the next few months.

It doesn't make sense to "upgrade" then entire network if only a couple devices work so far. That would cost money, which is better spent upgrading the EDGE areas to the 3G specs.
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regine44

Jan 27, 2007, 12:50 AM
These are how phones should be released! Ready for the next generation not stuck on edge or gprs 3g! I mean once the next set of speeds are ready the phone should be released way before the network ready to handle it so that way i am ready not waiting to buy a phone every year.
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SiestaRandy

Jan 27, 2007, 9:18 AM
Hey buddy, come here, I've got a deal for you.
I'll tell you what, if you buy this new phone with high speed capability, I PROMISE that someday I will upgrade my behind technology Network so that in months, or years from now, your now outdated, old phone, will finally be able to work at the capacity it was built for! Great! That'll be two hundred dollars. Hurry up and wait...... Sure REGINE44 Laughing Laughing thats how phones should be sold. Get real. Cingular bites!!!!!
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Jayshmay

Jan 27, 2007, 10:03 AM
I AGREE!!!!!! Devices AND services should launch @ the SAME time!!!

Excuse me for making sense! ! !
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regine44

Jan 27, 2007, 10:22 AM
Lets look at this you have the blackberry perl awesome phone! Still on edge!!! common wakeup phones should be UTMS are already out and being devolp I mean t-mobile should be releasing phones with UMTS so when their ready to deploy their network by a year or two there we have the high speed ready. I have seen phones blackberry that are a year old and people are still using them

User SiestaRandy
I PROMISE that someday I will upgrade my behind technology Network so that in months, or years from now, your now outdated, old phone, will finally be able to work at the capacity it was built for!
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Ok you make a pointe. But look at this treo 680 was released it still had EDGE! What the hell were you thinking palm make us spend the e...
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Jayshmay

Jan 27, 2007, 10:31 AM
Personally, I don't consider UMTS (384kbps) high speed, far, very far from high speed!!!

I don't even consider UMTS 3G, it's just a slight upgrade to edge,. . . now HSDPA, that's 3G!!!

UMTS can't even be compared to EVDO!!!
I'm not supporting evil Vrzn thoug!!!
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regine44

Jan 27, 2007, 10:37 AM
Jayshmay
I don't even consider UMTS 3G, it's just a slight upgrade to edge,. . . now HSDPA, that's 3G!!!

Phonescoop.com (HSDPA)
An upgrade for WCDMA / UMTS networks. It doubles network capacity and increases download data speeds five-fold or more.

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My apologies it should be HSDPA not UTMS so please replace everything HSDPA what i said earlier with UMTS.
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SkillciaX

Feb 2, 2007, 2:25 AM
It would be stupid to put a phone full of technology beyond the network, because by the time the network is upgraded new phones will already be out, and they will be that much better.

I'm think about how much the Razr has already advanced compared to the network? If the best RAZR came out 2 yrs ago... it would be pointless because in that amount of time so many problems could have developed that people would already need a new phone by now thus manking the phone useless...
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sangyup81

Jan 27, 2007, 10:24 AM
But you have to remember that the device maker and the service provider ARE DIFFERENT COMPANIES. Was Cingular supposed to tell Motorola to downgrade the phone? Eh?
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regine44

Jan 27, 2007, 10:30 AM
Sangyup81
But you have to remember that the device maker and the service provider ARE DIFFERENT COMPANIES. Was Cingular supposed to tell Motorola to downgrade the phone? Eh?

didnt get your statement.
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SiestaRandy

Jan 27, 2007, 11:13 AM
The carriers tell the Phone Manufacturers exactly HOW they want the phone set up. ie Treo 680, a low cost smartphone for price conscience buyers. Price conscience buyers dont get top of the line, high speed phones ie. Treo 750. The get scaled back versions.
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regine44

Jan 27, 2007, 12:58 PM
SiestaRandy

The carriers tell the Phone Manufacturers exactly HOW they want the phone set up. ie Treo 680, a low cost smartphone for price conscience buyers. Price conscience buyers dont get top of the line, high speed phones ie. Treo 750. The get scaled back versions.
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Very good pointe!

Randy,
The issue that comes down is that we should not have devices with out of date technology. I would like to be able to purchase a phone that ready for the next generation. There are always going to be people who dont care. Sometimes internet speeds is not a decisioning factor. Example i have the southern linc 7100i blackberry. With iden thats 9kb to 14kb a second! I still receive emails receive in a good fashion time. Then i al...
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rytr23

Jan 27, 2007, 2:10 PM
This isn't a hardware upgrade to get the network to 3.6 like GSM to UMTS you silly goose.. the network is throttled to 1.8 now.. I would imagine its fairly easy to move to 3.6..
And the RAZR has been old news for oh.. 2 years..
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regine44

Jan 27, 2007, 3:11 PM
rytr23
This isn't a hardware upgrade to get the network to 3.6 like GSM to UMTS you silly goose..

When did we mention a hardware upgrade?

the network is throttled to 1.8 now.. I would imagine its fairly easy to move to 3.6..

Greed

And the RAZR has been old news for oh.. 2 years..

What the hell are you talking about we arent talking about the razr!
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rytr23

Jan 27, 2007, 3:40 PM
regine44 said:
rytr23
This isn't a hardware upgrade to get the network to 3.6 like GSM to UMTS you silly goose..

When did we mention a hardware upgrade?

the network is throttled to 1.8 now.. I would imagine its fairly easy to move to 3.6..

Greed

And the RAZR has been old news for oh.. 2 years..

What the hell are you talking about we arent talking about the razr!


Regina I was agreeing with you.. Siesta was implying that it would be a real stretch for them to open up the 3.6 spec all over.. I was only saying its not a big deal and that they will be doing so... furthermore didn't Cingular already say they were going to roll out 7.2 Mpbs HSDPA this year?

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regine44

Jan 27, 2007, 3:52 PM
Regina I was agreeing with you.. Siesta was implying that it would be a real stretch for them to open up the 3.6 spec all over..

Sorry about that.

I was only saying its not a big deal and that they will be doing so... furthermore didn't Cingular already say they were going to roll out 7.2 Mpbs HSDPA this year?

Who knows cingular keeps changing their plans all the time.

And yes, this is still just the awful Razr with a new radio.. whoop de doo..Not really cutting edge..

The RAZR needs to put to its grave and something new comeout like a phone with a touch screen (DOH! Apple doing that with cingular!) just something much cooler everyone has them the fad is over!
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Crapbag

Jan 27, 2007, 4:02 PM
I was told to expect speeds of 7+Mbps this year. If this comes through then it sounds like they will be jumping ahead of current technology. Further more the V3xx is going to be offered at a modest $100 after $50 rebate. Cingular/at&t is already coming into this year with an agressive handset line and it looks like its only getting better. Cool
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regine44

Jan 27, 2007, 4:05 PM
I was told to expect speeds of 7+Mbps this year.

Wonderful! news!

If this comes through then it sounds like they will be jumping ahead of current technology.

Agreed. Just the TOS will bother me like can you use it as a home connection. This should replaced Wired internet a long time ago.

Further more the V3xx is going to be offered at a modest $100 after $50 rebate.

Very nice Price!

Cingular/at&t is already coming into this year with an agressive handset line and it looks like its only getting better. Cool

Except for the iphone only being EDGE! Agreed!
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AshDizzle

Jan 28, 2007, 4:40 PM
How old are you? 5? It makes complete sense to get the handsets out there and in people's hands before the service launches. That way when it does, people can take advantage of it immediately. Besides the fact that it has HSDPA 3.6, it's still a GOOD phone, so what the hell is the big deal?

Let's not even forget how many Verizon stores sold and still sell VCAST capable phones in non-VCAST areas, for the exact same reason. Get your facts straight.
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regine44

Jan 28, 2007, 5:18 PM
AshDizzle Statement

How old are you? 5?
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Lower then that because he cant be professional person.

AshDizzle Statement
It makes complete sense to get the handsets out there and in people's hands before the service launches. That way when it does, people can take advantage of it immediately. Besides the fact that it has HSDPA 3.6, it's still a GOOD phone, so what the hell is the big deal?

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Agree with you! But i would like to see more handsets and earlier release times with high speed data.

AshDizzle Statement
Let's not even forget how many Verizon stores sold and still sell VCAST capable phones in non-VCAST areas, for the exact same reason. Get your facts straight.
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TradeMark_310

Jan 27, 2007, 4:24 PM
T-Mob will have the @home service, which will need a compatable handset. Would I buy one now? No. Even if it were a BlackBerry with the promise of faster speeds in the future? No. It just doesn't seem right. Would you pay for internet on a RAZR that they told you wouldn't run internet for 4-5 months? No, you would wait until you had the phone. I think it goes both ways...
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regine44

Jan 27, 2007, 4:41 PM
T-Mob will have the @home service

Whats that?
Is it something like this?
T-Mobile Germany is launching its fixed-mobile solution, called T-Mobile@home. The service costs an additional monthly surcharge of € 4.95 on an user's account.


Would I buy one now? No. Even if it were a BlackBerry with the promise of faster speeds in
the future?

Great that why everyone has choices in the world but at least have the handset available so i can buy it. and roaming around the world at faster data speeds.

Would you pay for internet on a RAZR that they told you wouldn't run internet for 4-5 months?

First off DUDE! You just turn around my statement incorrectly. First off you dont buy a phone dsl modem that a company cant provide you 4-...
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TradeMark_310

Jan 27, 2007, 6:30 PM
Why is this about you? I was making an a comparison, not "putting words" in your mouth. I was reversing the situation and seeing if that made sense, which it still didn't. Learn the differance between opinions and insults before you "get angry"

And the @home is like WiFi, but T-Mob will have phones that can piggyback off it, basically for stronger signal. Good job pointing out who has it and what it costs, maybe you should have taken the one extra step to figure out what it is...
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TradeMark_310

Jan 27, 2007, 6:33 PM
Oh and let's clarify: YOU responded to something I posted, not the other way around. Frickin stuck up arrogant snot...
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AshDizzle

Jan 28, 2007, 4:44 PM
Double posting in response to someone's post is to admit defeat.
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TradeMark_310

Jan 31, 2007, 6:38 PM
No it isn't.
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regine44

Jan 27, 2007, 8:14 PM
T-Mob will have the @home service.

And the @home is like WiFi, but T-Mob will have phones that can piggyback off it, basically for stronger signal. Good job pointing out who has it and what it costs, maybe you should have taken the one extra step to figure out what it is...

How does this come into the conversation about WIFI. Were talking about data via cell networks not WIFI and WIFI calls! First off I know t-mobile is implementing the UMA network i just never have heard the term @home with t-mobile. I was just asking! nextime maybe i should google your name on phonescoop
and look for pervious post about you sit there all day and bash people about how dumb and stupid they are! Then maybe i can find some thing about the @home with t-m...
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TradeMark_310

Jan 28, 2007, 4:22 PM
Wow, you type a lot for not saying anything. So I say it's not about you, you come back with "of coarse this is about you". I stopped reading at that point to save myself a HUGE headache...
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TradeMark_310

Jan 28, 2007, 4:24 PM
Oh, and I WAS NEVER INSULTING YOU BEFORE YOU TOOK IT PERSONAL!
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regine44

Jan 28, 2007, 5:13 PM
TradeMark Statement

Wow, you type a lot for not saying anything.

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Ok Wow you must really have an IQ of a T-Rex. If you cant read my posts its pretty simple i have broken everything you said and posted a comment. Let me ask can you turn on a phone and make a call? Do you know how to write a check!

TradeMark Statement

So I say it's not about you, you come back with "of coarse this is about you".

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Well ya you stated the post and responded to a comment. Now that you have taken this more PERSONALLY then you should call your mommy for support.

TradeMark Statement

I stopped reading at that point to save myself a HUGE headache...

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Great i am glad i could take 5 minutes of my time to give you a HUGE headache!

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TradeMark_310

Jan 31, 2007, 8:56 PM
regine44 said:

So I say it's not about you, you come back with "of coarse this is about you".

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Well ya you stated the post and responded to a comment. Now that you have taken this more PERSONALLY then you should call your mommy for support.

Ooo...comeback of the year. And I need college? Try spellcheck first...



TradeMark_310 said:
T-Mob will have the @home service, which will need a compatable handset. Would I buy one now? No. Even if it were a BlackBerry with the promise of faster speeds in the future? No. It just doesn't seem right. Would you pay for internet on a RAZR that they told you wouldn't run internet for 4-5 months? No, you would wait until you had the phone.
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regine44

Jan 31, 2007, 11:36 PM
TradeMark_310 Comment
This is my second post on this subject, the one you took personal and went off on me for.

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NO! This is you fifth post learn how to count or here let me teach you.

# Re: Phone faster then network? by TradeMark_310 Sunday, 4:22 PM
# Re: Phone faster then network? by TradeMark_310 Sunday, 4:24 PM
# Re: Phone faster then network? by TradeMark_310 Saturday, 6:30 PM
# Re: Phone faster then network? by TradeMark_310 Saturday, 6:33 PM
* Re: Phone faster then network? by TradeMark_310 Today, 8:56 PM
I count 5 how many do you count.

TradeMark_310 Comment
I WASN"T TALKING TO YOU DIRECTLY! I was answering questions that NO ONE ASKED!! Then you responded to my post (for the second time).

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TradeMark_310

Feb 2, 2007, 2:53 PM
TradeMark_310 Comment
This is my second post on this subject, the one you took personal and went off on me for.

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NO! This is you fifth post learn how to count or here let me teach you.

This is why the whole thing is stupid. The post I QUOTED was the second one. Geez...


"Fine but when you sit here at make stupid examples that make no sense at all then I get angry because people get confused."

Right, I"M confusing everyone. You seem like the type to trip over a carpet and blame the carpet with your attitude... and since when is other people's confusion your problem

TradeMark_310 Comment
I'm glad it makes you happy to digitally punk me and twist my words, I hope you feel like a big man (or woman).
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No it real...
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katrina

Jan 28, 2007, 4:59 PM
I don't think its any worse than people byuing an 802.11g or even worse 802.11pre-n WiFi router for their internet connection which only runs at 1.5Mb. The highest speed home service I have ever seen is only 12Mb which, yeah, you might want an 802.11g router for, but the average is 3Mb which 802.11b could more than handle.
SO why get an 802.11pre-n router? Because it's new and cool ;-)
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regine44

Jan 28, 2007, 5:39 PM
Katrina Statement
I don't think its any worse than people byuing an 802.11g or even worse 802.11pre-n WiFi router for their internet connection which only runs at 1.5Mb.
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Katrina wireless Network Router is different the wireless phone network. People buy the the standard for the local network speeds. So if you want to transfer a file via wireless network you can do faster then using B which is 10mbs per second. Also the faster wireless network give you the ability add more nodes without slowing down the wireless access points so now N standard can take more wireless without slowing down g too much. Another way you can think of it (B standard) AMPS (N) CDMA. We all know that CDMA is faster data speeds and more capacity vs AMPS w...
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dancedjeric

Jan 29, 2007, 3:37 PM
So many chronic complainers....people complain that a network is faster but have limited devices for it, and then you have these people who complain because the devices are coming out but the network isn't turned up to that speed yet. Complain complain, I say get a life.....if you want it, buy it, if you don't shut up.
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regine44

Jan 30, 2007, 1:10 AM
THANKYOU!!!!!!
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