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cingy won: can vzw, sprint, or t-mo ever catch up?

walker24

Jan 9, 2007, 5:42 PM
man at the end of the day the man in orange always wins. Why can't i be for SPRINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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renardlee

Jan 9, 2007, 6:25 PM
cingular+apple=perfect team
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Mustang46L

Jan 9, 2007, 6:27 PM
First off you mean that AT&T wins, blue, not orange because of course, it is time to change their name AGAIN.

Second, they win yet another inferior device to put on their inferior network that will NEVER catch up to what VZW and Sprint offer now or will offer in the future.

Third, its just another OVERPRICED ($599 with 2 year contract) Apple product. They might learn, one day..
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sowhatsowhat10

Jan 9, 2007, 6:33 PM
SPRINTs network sucks. if cingular's network is so inferior why just tell me WHY there are more cingular customers than vzw, sprint, tmo and etc.....
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aj2086

Jan 9, 2007, 6:38 PM
Because they BOUGHT them
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sowhatsowhat10

Jan 9, 2007, 6:39 PM
3 years ago. and THEY KEPT THEM.
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dead_psycho1

Jan 9, 2007, 10:11 PM
yes but lets see how long they keep them.....
and any way cingular's network is inferior sprint's whole network is ev-do and it is being upgraded to rev. a which is faster by the end of the year and with in the next 2 years they will have wimax released... what does cing. have some slighly slower 3g in the top 100 cities and not even all of those cities and the rest of there network... don't get me started...
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Sprint07

Jan 9, 2007, 10:27 PM
WOW DAMN you on fire lol!! Laughing
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ebaydan777

Jan 9, 2007, 10:38 PM
ya dude ur on fire...talk talk talk i still dont give a **** im switchin from t-mo and cancelling my verizon and getting that baby...WHY CUS ITS BADASS!!
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Sprint07

Jan 9, 2007, 10:41 PM
UR DOING WHAT? Eh?
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dead_psycho1

Jan 11, 2007, 5:49 PM
well at least cingular is way better than verizon and t-mobile.... yes i can get pretty pissy i love sprint (but really dont like next) and i dont know why. Twisted Evil Laughing Very Happy Razz
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Azeron

Jan 9, 2007, 11:22 PM
Sprint's whole network is definetly NOT EVDO. It is 1x in quite a few places. I believe CDMA is superior to GSM but that simply is not a true statement.
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dead_psycho1

Jan 11, 2007, 11:52 PM
actually as far as i know the network that sprint owns not the afilliats they have are evdo
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sowhatsowhat10

Jan 10, 2007, 1:56 PM
how much of that network is theirs Eh?
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rytr23

Jan 10, 2007, 2:30 PM
Wowee your a bight one.. EvDo RevA will up the DL to 3.1 mbps and the real benefit of Rev A is the uplink to 1.8Mbps.. so As Cingular rolls out 7.2 Mpbs in the 100 or so 3g markets down and completes the UMTS/HSDPA rollout elsewhere Sprint will still be drifting along with 3.1 tops.. now thats impressive.. oh and you realize that Wi-Max will allow about 10Mbps best case for thier rollout in two years.. By that time.. they will be playing catch up.
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lovephones088

Jan 10, 2007, 6:12 PM
Actually your full of crap. Wimax does not max out at 10mbs. Cingular just got 3g!!! Who are you kidding. Your talking about cingular, like they are just all over technolgy. GIVE ME A BREAK! Cingular=data sucks.
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rytr23

Jan 10, 2007, 6:22 PM
Are you going to be carrying around a wi-max antenna with you to maintain Line of sight? No? Then kiss your 70Mbps good bye.. 10 is more realistic and with load it will drop down to accomodate users(like wi-fi).. Sprint themselves stated that 2-4Mbps down is realistic.. which ain't bad.. but isn't really knocking my socks off especially a year+ away..
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ebaydan777

Jan 10, 2007, 10:10 PM
your data sucks go away, i dont even have cingular and know they are far better than crippling verizon (which is what i have now along with tmobile)..AND THEY SUCK
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billecorgan

Jan 11, 2007, 12:41 AM
You guys are comparing oranges to apples! (No pun intended) That 7.2 MBps quote is MAXIMUM! not real world speed folks. http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=199 0
Your Cingular 3G is sailing around 300k according to articles I have read and they don't have anywhere near the broadband coverage that Sprint offers. PC Mag says they have found the current generation to be slower than Sprint and Verizon: (again, less coverage) http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1916281, 00.aspI have an aircard with Sprint and I get anywhere from 500k (at lowest) to 1200k plus occasionally. Usually I am around 600 to 700k which is quite a bit faster than Cingular's 300k that isn't as widely available. Wimax's max is around 70 Mbps, but Sprint is sayin...
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rytr23

Jan 11, 2007, 1:09 AM
300K? sure with a ton of traffic.. this guy compares his sprint phone with his blackjack..and pulling >900K
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Sm_ffE21L-M »

And if you browse to hofo you can see a gigantic thread of people pulling >1/Mbps on the 3.6/mpbs version of cingy's hsdpa..and they haven't even rolled 7.2 out yet!


And 70mps is the theoretical max for Wi-Max.. Line of sight! Like I said.. are all the sprint folk going to be carrying around Wimax towers with them?
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jinx7676

Jan 11, 2007, 8:29 AM
billecorgan said:

Your Cingular 3G is sailing around 300k according to articles I have read and they don't have anywhere near the broadband coverage that Sprint offers. PC Mag says they have found the current generation to be slower than Sprint and Verizon: (again, less coverage) http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1916281, 00.aspI have an aircard with Sprint and I get anywhere from 500k (at lowest) to 1200k plus occasionally. Usually I am around 600 to 700k which is quite a bit faster than Cingular's 300k that isn't as widely available.


my usage of Cingular's 3G gets me on average around 900k down.
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lovephones088

Jan 12, 2007, 7:17 PM
AND SO CAN SPRINT.... WHAT IS YOUR POINT????? I get 900k all the time on my broadband card....
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rytr23

Jan 13, 2007, 12:10 PM
The point was BillieC was diatribing about Cingulars 3G netowrk getting ~300K down.. and we both pointed out how incorrect he was.. That was the point.. I would have thought that was fairly obvious..
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jinx7676

Jan 17, 2007, 2:02 PM
rytr23 said:
The point was BillieC was diatribing about Cingulars 3G netowrk getting ~300K down.. and we both pointed out how incorrect he was.. That was the point.. I would have thought that was fairly obvious..


exactly!
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z34007

Jan 10, 2007, 9:44 AM
I thought it went through 2 years ago?, not 3 years ago.
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unzip7

Jan 9, 2007, 10:50 PM
in responce to Dead_psycho1, Better check the maps again, sprint's entire network is NOT EV DO, Only in the large cities, there are so many gaps in Ev-Do, they said the entire network would be by the end of 2006, Now they are just upgrading it all to the REV A so if you are in a market the does not have EV DO yet, you will still have to wait until the large cities get REV A and they finally get around to us smaller Metro area guys.
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HEKNOWS

Jan 10, 2007, 9:25 PM
lame ppl anyways you know and iknow verizon its better the cingular they need this phone trusted me they dint have anything for about 1year half and alot ppl going 2different carriers so like mike beat it Laughing
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ebaydan777

Jan 11, 2007, 1:26 AM
sorry but shutup its not...verizon blows
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bulldude

Jan 11, 2007, 11:55 AM
Dude, back away from the keyboard. I work for VZW and I'm embarassed by your post. Feel free to throw in a bit of punctuation now and then. And no, emoticons are not considered punctuation.

BTW, I'm an apple fiend and terribly jealous that Jobs is jobbing everyone except Cingy. But one phone is not going to make or break a company, especially one that's $500. You might be able to pass off that price for something business related, but that's awful steep for a touch-screen iPod with a phone without 3G. We'll have to see what Samsung, Sanyo, LG, and Moto come up with in the next six months leading up to the launch. They might have a competitor already on a drawing board. And apple might open up the field with a CDMA version in two...
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ebaydan777

Jan 11, 2007, 6:08 PM
whatever company it is should watch what they make and not infringe on the 200+ patents Jobs placed on this deviced...i think phone companies wont be making anything close to this phone for years to come, they could get in a lot of trouble especially when Jobs says "we have over 200 patents on this device, and we are going to defend them"...i beleive it
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frankiewawa

Jan 10, 2007, 9:07 AM
haha... silly man. the only reason cingular has "more customers" is because they combined with AT&T a few years back. If it wasn't for that, VZW would be on top. Cool
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jinx7676

Jan 10, 2007, 1:42 PM
frankiewawa said:
haha... silly man. the only reason cingular has "more customers" is because they combined with AT&T a few years back. If it wasn't for that, VZW would be on top. Cool


so verizon was never the product of 2 companies coming together? are you saying that they started selling under the VZW name with 0 customers and got to where they are today?

do some research before making idiotic comments.
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Cinner

Jan 10, 2007, 2:41 PM
jinx7676 said:
frankiewawa said:
haha... silly man. the only reason cingular has "more customers" is because they combined with AT&T a few years back. If it wasn't for that, VZW would be on top. Cool


so verizon was never the product of 2 companies coming together? are you saying that they started selling under the VZW name with 0 customers and got to where they are today?

do some research before making idiotic comments.



OWNED!

VZW is the product of about FOUR companies you moron. And let's not even talk about name changes until you address that issue with T-Power-Touch.....
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Versed

Jan 10, 2007, 6:48 PM
Yeah, the last major deal was when they were called Bell Atlantic, they merged with a western company and changed. Cingular (AT&T), Sprint, T-Mobile and Verizonwireless all have gone threw aquistions.
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ebaydan777

Jan 12, 2007, 1:03 AM
haha OWNED AGAIN....damn 2 in one day haha, i dont think any of these companies really started from 0 in the past 10 years, theyve been plain and simple re-born over and over again..
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shortstuff32

Jan 10, 2007, 1:36 PM
Actually, at&t won, not AT&T... Cingular bought out AT&T WIRELESS... then Cingular's parent company, SBC/BellSouth, bought out AT&T landline and DSL. SBC/BellSouth decided to keep the AT&T name instead of Cingular/SBC/BellSouth because it is more widely known. If you look at any of the new marketing, you'll notice that they no longer capitalize AT&T.

So, to be correct, GOLD, not orange, not blue, wins.
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jmac32here

Jan 25, 2007, 10:49 PM
well..at&t, when representing Cingular, stated the logo will be orange.

And NUMBER TIME:

http://tech.yahoo.com/blog/null/3554 »

(Home Networks only guys...except T-Mo..their to afraid to present home network data.)

Cingular:
Voice Coverage: 270 Million
Data Coverage: 250 Million (EDGE) - 70 Million (HSDPA)
(HSDPA phones can use EDGE data.)

VZW:
Voice Coverage: 255 Million
Data Coverage: 150 Million

Sprint:
Voice Coverage: 295 Million (PCS) - 264 Million (iDen)
Data Coverage: 158 Million

T-Mo:
Only states they can cover a potential of 275 Million people, but thats when including their roaming agreements--which includes Cingular.

So Sprint has the largest Network overall. However, Cingular has the largest all dig...
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Zebrahead

Jan 17, 2007, 2:03 PM
That was really apparent when the Rokr came out
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adilus

Jan 10, 2007, 8:58 AM
Actually, in terms of profitability which is a very good indicator of future growth, Verizon is winning.

But why did you have to start yet another baseless troll. Who cares.

Not to mention competition is good, very good. It keeps our technology new, our customer service responsive and our plans affordable. Do you really want to go back to the days of one or two regional carriers and 2 buck a overage charges?
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yeahright

Jan 10, 2007, 9:20 AM
you do realize that your days in orange will soon be at an end as you convert back over to dull blue.
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shortstuff32

Jan 10, 2007, 1:37 PM
it's actually being referred to as the gold network, not blue or orange.
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nikg

Jan 10, 2007, 1:45 PM
what a marketing mind f***! cingular is so ambiguous with their marketing tactics! they keep changing their name, as if to run away from previous names and their reputations. its sickening, just like their coverage map(see Dictionary..look up ambiguous...you'll see a pic of cingy's coverage map), it shows coverage that you can only get with an old tdma handset! what confusion for the uninformed.
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jinx7676

Jan 10, 2007, 1:53 PM
nikg said:
it shows coverage that you can only get with an old tdma handset! what confusion for the uninformed.


what! are you insane? where's your proof?
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jmac32here

Jan 25, 2007, 10:52 PM
Actually look at VZW's map..where they show coverage where there IS NONE on their NEWEST HANDSETS!!
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Versed

Jan 10, 2007, 6:50 PM
I could care less, if the phone turns on, makes calls, tethers does what it's supposed to, they can call it what they want.
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spidermon

Jan 10, 2007, 7:01 PM
All of you people seem to forget something for alot of us this phone will not even be an option. Make no mistake MetroPCS is the future of wireless not Apple. Metro is the fastest growing company in over fifty years and they show no sighnes of stopping or even slowing down. Most of there customers could not even pass a cingular credit check so dont worry so much. Cool
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TradeMark_310

Jan 11, 2007, 6:38 PM
Hmmm, when WILL T-Mob get an exclusive phone that does more then any phone? Geez, they will never catch up, I guess I should throw away mt SideKick, SKII, and SK3 (oh, wait...)
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ebaydan777

Jan 11, 2007, 6:54 PM
haha i have a Dash and SKII, when june comes theyre both in the toilets..or on ebay haha, and the iphone is mine, tmobile needs to catch up seriously
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TradeMark_310

Jan 12, 2007, 4:46 PM
How do you know T-Mob will be "behind" come summer? With the @home probably launching before then, it will go after a whole other market, but still hold it down. I prefer strong signal and functionality, but I'll wait and see the WiFi phones before I commit to them...
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ebaydan777

Jan 12, 2007, 5:10 PM
wifi phones are like any other wifi product, my tmobile dash has wifi and it works great...im sure iphone will do the same
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jmac32here

Jan 25, 2007, 10:57 PM
umm..lets see..The sidekick does what TXT and IM??


Umm...I can do that on the 8125 by Cingy..the SPC 6700 on Sprint...need I go on..

(The only advantage of the SK was the flick out keyboard...well..now thats commonplace on PDA phones.)

@Home = EXTRA $20/Month to use your wifi to connect to their network..and so far..they only have 2 phones to support it...so I don't see that as a benefit. (Sprint's WiMax is planned to allow the same...maybe even for free)
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ebaydan777

Jan 27, 2007, 3:37 AM
why do people keep saying wifi costs money...it doesnt haha i have the t-mobile dash and that wifi works even without the sim card installed so idk why everyones freaking out about it. All you gotta do is purchase the data plan, and hopefully by the sounds of the media ATT will be providing a special iphone data plan for cheap
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