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Cingular To Upgrade HSDPA To 7.2 Mbps Next Year

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HSDPA Upgrade vs EVDO Upgrade - Price and Hardware

Michael77

Dec 8, 2006, 12:15 PM
For months I have been going back and forth between EV-DO and HSDPA. The one topic that kept me from committing to either technology was the migration path to newer (or upgraded) revisions. I have finally settled on Cingular's HSDPA because out of the three (Sprint, Verion, and Cingular) it has given me the best overall customer experience (support and speed).

But now here is the question, I just bought a new DELL Laptop with the integrated HSDPA card. With this upgrade coming to Cingular's network does that mean my internal card will have to be upgraded to take advantage of these new speeds? Like the Rev A to B that Sprint offers? Or are HSDPA upgrades only linked to tower upgrades and does not mean anything to the client side? A...
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eric Lin

Dec 8, 2006, 12:29 PM
some 3.6 hardware is software upgradeable to 7.2, but not all of it. i don't know of any rev. a data cards that are software upgradeable to rev. b. i'm not sure if that is possible. i wonder where you got that information.
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undrgrnd

Dec 8, 2006, 12:41 PM
i would say that sprint cards are not available to upgrade becasue whenever revision a came out a new line of card were produced even tho the rev 0 cards were still sold fo r a while and we still have a rev 0 sierra 580 but the novatel s720 dora and u 720 dora and the pantech px500 dora and the sierra 595 dora were all released when rev was released so i dont believe sprint aircards are upgradable.. but if ur are has been upgraded to rev a you can still use ur old equipment you will not receive the speed of rev a tho...
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undrgrnd

Dec 8, 2006, 12:42 PM
hopefully that last note was understandable... 🙄
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Jayshmay

Dec 10, 2006, 8:56 PM
Yeah, I know, I'm not too sure what the heck "dora" is all about??????
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Mustang46L

Dec 8, 2006, 3:59 PM
Acutally I think you misunderstood. The new 7.2 cards will be upgradeable to 7.2, but out of the box their software will only support 3.6 even though the hardware is more capable. None of the 3.6 hardware will be software upgradeable, nor will the phones that are capped at 1.8.
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japhy

Dec 8, 2006, 1:17 PM
The computers with integrated cards are hardwired to the logicboard of the computer - similar to a wifi unit, but a little bigger. Unless there's a serious firmware/software for the card from Dell (which isn't likely), you'd have to open the case, unwire the current card, and install a new one. . . which is slightly more complicated than most folks are capable of.

Still, 7.2 mbps is pretty damn fast . . . hardware hacking would be almost worth it if internet speed could be doubled.

And you never know - Dell isn't exactly super generous about firmware updates (and they don't bother with software updates too much as most of their software is rebadged 3rd party stuff and/or Microsoft), but it could happen. . .
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Mustang46L

Dec 8, 2006, 3:57 PM
One BIG thing to remember is that when you have Sprint you have the largest broadband network + you have full access to Alltel's EV-DO network! Compared to the few cities Cingular actually cares to cover.
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undrgrnd

Dec 8, 2006, 4:13 PM
because alltel uses sprint and verizon towers...
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japhy

Dec 8, 2006, 4:53 PM
For 3G coverage, Sprint has everyone beat, hands down, but Cingular isn't exactly slacking about expanding the UMTS/HSPDA coverage - one thing I've noticed is that the coverage is expanding much quicker than it's being advertised. The current 3G coverage maps here:

http://www.cingular.com/business/3G_cov_maps_pop »

show 63 cities, but I've checked and a further 7 have 3G coverage on our coverage troubleshooting tool, and I wouldn't at all be surprised to see many more than that already up.

The aim is to have it "national" (aka - in all markets) by the end of next year. I don't expect that to happen, but it just might. This announcement is a good sign that cingular is working their butts off (at least, the network engineers are) to b...
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the_eraser

Dec 9, 2006, 1:38 AM
We are not fooling around when it comes down to deploying 3G.
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the_eraser

Dec 9, 2006, 1:40 AM
The title of the thread was meant to be changed to that^^^
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Jayshmay

Dec 9, 2006, 9:52 AM
So 31 more HSDPA markets are going to be turned on in the next 3 weeks, ha? That's a bit hard to believe.
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en102

Dec 9, 2006, 3:25 PM
The countries 2nd largest market (Los Angeles) doesn't even have 3g, and according to Cingular won't have it until July 2007. Same thing with Denver.
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the_eraser

Dec 9, 2006, 9:31 PM
Jayshmay said:
So 31 more HSDPA markets are going to be turned on in the next 3 weeks, ha? That's a bit hard to believe.


Well, you'll believe it when you see it... That's been the vision and Stan has said it plenty of times that we are on track. So yes! in the next few weeks you'll see 31 more HSDPA markets deployed....
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japhy

Dec 11, 2006, 12:07 PM
I'd be very surprised if half those 31 markets to come aren't active already. As I said, the officially announced coverage is far behind the actual coverage, so I'm sure there will be an announcement around the New year saying we now have over 100 markets active with 3G.
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RShACkSUX

Dec 10, 2006, 4:29 PM
the_eraser said:
We are not fooling around when it comes down to deploying 3G.


That statement is fooling around in itself. Have you seen the "3G Network" in NYC? I can't vouch for all the other cities since I haven't lived in them, but its in like, one borough. In a city of over 8 million people, they have perhaps 1/5th the people covered if even. They're missing all of Brooklyn and 75% of Queens. No Staten Island. No Bronx. Just SAD! They should just stick to providing bad voice service
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RUFF1415

Dec 9, 2006, 10:09 PM
That link isn't even close to being right.

Cingular currently has HSDPA deployed in 31 states. That's something like 167 major cities and their surrounding towns or the equivalent of 70+ major markets nationwide.

It's in all of their latest press releases on 3G deployment.
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