Sprint Speeds Up Three More Cities
Round One to Sprint!
Sprint's powerful EVDO data network is at it again. In FOUR major metro areas. Where are you Verizon?
What the five fingers say to Verizon?
SLAP!
Ha!
(For those of you that haven't yet seen the new commercials for Sprint, that is where they've confirmed this fact.) Looks like my next provider will be Sprint - I hate getting dropped calls. 👿
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for them to be able to launch rev A ahead of Verizon, but I think other areas need more attention at this time.
Having watched the Q3 presentation, I'm excited about the future. The company has plans. The only thing I'm worried about is the implementation.
And Sprint is most definitely not the most reliable network nationwide either. Again, that title belongs to someone else, particularly Verizon (and T-Mobile).
Sprint has a habit of putting false and misrepresented information in their marketing strategy. They've been sued over it before, and lost. They'll be sued over it again, and lose.
I will agree that Sprint does have the largest mobile broadband network in the US though...for now.
Sprint is not the only company that misrepresents info. Lets look at ALL the Cingular billboards that boast about the "Fewest dropped calls." And they say that the independant study confirmed this.
However, that independant study ranked Cingular pretty low in a LOT of areas, particularly network reliability. How's that for false advertising? Don't rip Sprint becuz they say something thats not true. That's the POINT of advertising, to get somebody to buy something ...
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VERIZON WIRELESS DOES NOT ADVERTISE FEWEST DROPPED CALLS
Sprint is not the only company that misrepresents info. Lets look at ALL the Cingular billboards that boast about the "Fewest dropped calls." And they say that the independant study confirmed this.
LOL, you just said that Sprint is full of it
However, that independant study ranked Cingular pretty low in a LOT of areas, particularly network reliability. How's that for false advertising? Do...
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So what? Even if that will be true, Verizon will not beat Sprint in total subscribers on their EV-DO network. In fact, Verizon is too ashamed to broadcast their numbers, while Sprint does.
Face it; Sprint will beat Verizon in every way with data.
They are not a threat to Sprint in the data and prepaid segments.
Sprint Guy James said:
Puhleeze. Every single cellular provider states that they have the fewest dropped calls.
No...last time I checked, Cingular was the only one. T-Mobile has their own little bogus claim (fewest dropped calls in five major markets) on their website but they don't push it with marketing. So essentially, that's one company. Not "every single cellular provider."
Just because you have the most towers does not mean that you have the most reliable network.
Correct. Cingular has the most towers and right now the "most reliable network" is in Verizon's hands. Nobody ever said otherwise (except the user I was responding to. Sprint? Come on...)
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Just because you have the most towers does not mean that you have the most reliable network.
Let me say something here. Cingular purchased the AT&T network a couple years ago. Their subscriber base grew because of the buy out. Why the hell does everyone and their mother think that automatically Cingular has the biggest (network) infrastructure. Its subscriber base that got larger not the overall network. If you or anyone does their studies right, you will find out that where Cingular was so was AT&T. Therefore the only thing that they accomplished to do was strengthen their present territories. Do your research before you guys start shouting out your imaginative fantasies. Get it right or shut up.
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Sprint Guy James said:
Just because you have the most towers does not mean that you have the most reliable network.
Let me say something here. Cingular purchased the AT&T network a couple years ago. Their subscriber base grew because of the buy out. Why the hell does everyone and their mother think that automatically Cingular has the biggest (network) infrastructure. Its subscriber base that got larger not the overall network. If you or anyone does their studies right, you will find out that where Cingular was so was AT&T. Therefore the only thing that they accomplished to do was strengthen their present territories. Do your research before you guys start shouting out your imaginative fantasies.
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Basically, any information that I give can be easily found in news releases on the web. Cingular's network integration process was no secret. I honestly don't know where you have been for the past two years to say that the two networks remain redundant.
And where do you get yours? Sprint commercials?
“That explains why Verizon has half the towers and more/better coverage overall.”
Well it also has to deal with frequency. 800 MHz has better propagation than 1.9 GHz.
The tower's structure itself may affect the area that a signal reaches, however no other factors really come into play. Coverage area all depends on frequency and as you know, we all run off of the same two bands in the US.
What really is the difference between GSM, CDMA and other technologies when it comes to number of towers is capacity. GSM requires two towers to support all of the users that CDMA could support with one.
There's a difference.
kiwietnies said:
Oi... JD Power just did a survey about a month ago on Cingular and went clearly against Cingular's "fewest dropped calls" claim.
JD Powers surveys are exactly that, surveys. It's a compilation of opinions, not hard factual data. Think about it before you go spouting off that Cingular's claims are untrue. First, how many consumers actually know the full technical definition of a dropped call? Probably less than 10%. Second, those polls are easily influenced by customer perception. If you may have had a bad experience with Cingular's customer service, you're automatically more prone to claiming that the network isn't up to par as well. JD Powers can't measure the specific opinions on dropped c...
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It's not that surprising, that's what I would have done if I were in their shoes. (And I don't work for any company in the wireless industry.) I do agree with you RUFF that having the largest / most relaible nationwide network is a very important asset in this indus...
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Sprint: 298 Million
Cingular: 273 Million
T-Mobile: 268 Million
Verizon: 255 Million
Alltel: 72 Million
US Cellular: 44 Million
Cellular One: 12 Million
And I don't expect Sprint can be sued with these recent ads. In one TV ad they have their legal council actually approving their claims right on the spot (pretty impressive!). Although the Sprint legal council made the spokesperson recount the wacky claim that the Sprint Nationwide Network was powerful enough to protect us from meteors. Although if you think about it, that just proves that the other claim of Sprint having the largest, most reliable network is in fact the truth!
Has anyone else seen these new TV ads I'm talking about?
Sprint's "Native" coverage (that is, what Sprint actually owns and operates) is far smaller in terms of geographic area and covered pops than either Verizon or Cingular. They are much closer to (pre-merger) Nextel, as well as T-Mobile.
Sprint's rural coverage is minimal next to VZ and Cing....
Sprint HAS been successful at creating roaming agreements with smaller rural operators, as well as VZ and Cingular (analog) in various areas, which allows them to make the claim.
Is this really "their" network? Debateable.... Makes for good - if misleading - ad claims, though.
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That's pretty much what Sprint does.
I work for a company, not quite as large as Sprint, but when we develop marketing messages, every one is scrutinized by our corporate marketing & legal departments just to protect the company from any sort of misunderstandings. Legal council departments are a HUGE expense and their recommendations are ALWAYS followed (at least that has been my experience).
Just a few months ago, Sprint took a complaint to the BBB over Cingular's claim to fewest dropped calls. In turn, Cingular countersued Sprint and took the matter of Sprint's claims (pretty much all of them) to the DoJ. The matter of Cingular's claim was quickly dropped by Sprint, and the DoJ ruled against Sprint, preventing them from continuing to use their current marketing.
I promise you that Sprint does not have the largest voice network. The only way that they can possibly be making that claim is including roaming agreements, and their Nextel voice network into the mix. And clearly, a hodgepodge of incompatible networks...
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Cingular does have the largest native footprint but Sprint's is also fairly large. As for the Nextel coverage what is happening is that CDMA network equipment is being put on existing Nextel towers to improve Sprint's coverage. Sprint has been almost as aggressive as Cingular in their buildout over the past few years. They have the disadvantage of only existing in the industry for about 10 years or so.
John_in_Vegas said:
That's true and I am pleasantly surprised that Sprint now has the largest voice and mobile broadband calling area in the US. For all the TV commercials for Verizon & Cingular touting coverage, it's great to see that it is Sprint with the largest, most reliable nationwide network.
(For those of you that haven't yet seen the new commercials for Sprint, that is where they've confirmed this fact.) Looks like my next provider will be Sprint - I hate getting dropped calls. 👿
Is anyone else saying it besides Sprint? I didn't think so. In the early days of Sprint they used to tout the largest coast to coast ALL digital network in the country. Well they were right but what they f...
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Where are you with the rollout of your super swift 3G (third-generation) network?
We're probably 12 to 18 months behind Verizon today. We will roll out in 15 to 20...
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Do me a favor and lets find out who owns the CDMA network that Sprint uses. Do your research then get back to this forum because obviously you don't know whats going on.
Sprint built their OWN CDMA network from the GROUND UP. Verizon acquired their towers from other providors that they swallowed up.
How about you do YOUR research before you come back to this forum. YOU obviously don't know whats going on.
First of all, Verizon leases their towers to Sprint, why the hell do you think that Sprint is no longer bashing Verizon? They are bashing Cingular now if your dumb ass have not noticed.
How about you do YOUR research before you come back to this forum. YOU obviously don't know whats going on either.
I just wanted to add how ridiculous these forums get at times. All these fanboys act like you're insulting their mother if you say anything remotely negative towards their provider and/or employer. It's funny and to be honest, pathetic. Get a life, "your" precious company isn't perfect.
Sprint Guy James said:
MMhmm. Here we go again.
Sprint's powerful EVDO data network is at it again. In FOUR major metro areas. Where are you Verizon?
What the five fingers say to Verizon?
SLAP!
Ha!
I thought Round 1 was 1X and Round 2 EVDO. But that's just me. And how many total markets does Sprint have under EVDO Rev 0?
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