Sprint Begins Revision A Rollout
First to REV. A
Verizon, Cingular, nobody can touch that.
And if I recall, Sprint wasn't the first to EV-Do Rev. 0, Verizon was.
It's plastered all over their site.
nextel18 said:
Well, Sprint is the best with data before, now, and will be in the future.
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WHO CARES.
nextel18 said:
Well, Sprint is the best with data before, now, and will be in the future.
PS--I just LOVE your profile blurb. Intellectual, huh?
Not to mention, what he wrote was exactly what any other Sprint believer would write. Power up.
Alright, Sprextel18...
Please tell me why Sprextel is the best with data before, now, and will be in the future. Please use complete sentences, and please do not simply regurgitate the worm you've been fed from your "channel checks" or press releases. Be "intellectual" with your reply.
Ready...
Go!
MattFoleyJr said:
I heard "blah, blah, blah" and was rudely distrubed from my sleeping in the ol' van.
Alright, Sprextel18...
Please tell me why Sprextel is the best with data before, now, and will be in the future. Please use complete sentences, and please do not simply regurgitate the worm you've been fed from your "channel checks" or press releases. Be "intellectual" with your reply.
Ready...
Go!
You're asking a lot.
muchdrama said:MattFoleyJr said:
I heard "blah, blah, blah" and was rudely distrubed from my sleeping in the ol' van.
Alright, Sprextel18...
Please tell me why Sprextel is the best with data before, now, and will be in the future. Please use complete sentences, and please do not simply regurgitate the worm you've been fed from your "channel checks" or press releases. Be "intellectual" with your reply.
Ready...
Go!
You're asking a lot.
i think there are definately some grounds for saying that sprint has the best data now, and that they have for a while. their prices are good and their speeds are better than anything else out there. on top of that, they actu...
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I'm not sure how the burden of proof is on me. I have claimed nothing at all, but if you would like a "counterexample" for this, allow me to provide one rather easily.
Sprint's network cannot handle a voice and data session at the same time. Cingular's 3G network can.
Advantage: Cingular
ooooh ooooh! While we're comparing the two companies:
Sprint falls back to their 1xRTT network when not in a 3G market. Sprint claims 40 to 70 kbps. Cingular customers can fall back to the EDGE network when not in a 3G area, giving them speeds of 70 to 135 kbps. A quick comparison on each company's website shows that Cingular's EDGE network has far more coverage than Sprint's 1xRTT network.
Advantage: Cingular
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EVDO Rev. A will do 3.1 mpbs!!! How do you deny that! It came from the mouth(keyboard) of Mr. Brome himself, in this very forum.
Sprint has a TV service out now that trumps Verizon, and no GSM provider has anything currently that comes close to a CDMA carrier.
Sprint is going to have MediaFLO(Verizon too) which will be full-fledged TV programming on a mobile phone.
Sprint brings things(data) out BEFORE deadline, whereas Cingular consistently pushes dates back, and fails to deliver in multiple areas. 😳 If you don't offer ...
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Whoa, Yellerdart. We aren't friends, and that was good use of the word "doofus." I haven't seen or heard that in a long, long time. Maybe you can revive some other names next time!
"And a Cingular fanboi who blindly denies that any other carrier could be better in any way."
I'm not sure where you got that idea from. It must be from smoking too many yellowdarts. You darted out with the Cingular reference before I did. I was just giving you your "reason" why Sprint wasn't the best.
"Sprint isn't even my carrier of choice, I'm just asking people to be honest here."
Never said it was, and I really don't care who theyellowdart chooses. Honestly. 😈
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Anybody in their right mind knows that Cingular has had some problems implementing their high-speed data. And anybody who follows the announcements sees that Sprint is ahead of everyone else and even their own deadlines on rolling out next-generation high speed.
Also, while other carriers offer clips, Sprint offers full episodes. And while MobileESPN didn't succeed, Sprint is the only carrier with enough data and spectrum built out to support as many MVNOs as they do.
I think there are areas where Cingular beats Sprint. I just think you are kidding yourself if you say Cingular beats them in data.
I would spend the time to look up links to prove my case, heck I m...
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Cingular said that they would have HSDPA up and running in the top 100 markets by year end, and they are already well on their way to hitting that mark (60+ markets covered).
By the way, the additional 40 some markets are on schedule to be deployed in November.
Patience is virtue, really.
Sprint rocks for application developers. I just can't stand 'em from a customer perspective.
The response was appropriate and fitting.
Have a good night!
nextel18 said:
In addition, best ARPU both DATA and VOICE in the industry also.
Oy vey. 🙄
Did you really just use MobileESPN as an example to prove a point about being an industry leader??? 🤣
https://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=1901 »
Yeah, that didn't really help your argument, Yellow.
In October, Cingular announced that they would launch 3G by Nov. 1, 2005.
Cingular launched with a laptop card reaching 1.8mpbs burst speeds on download and they announced "an upload speed of only 40-60 Kbps at launch, which is well below expectations".
This was in fact on Dec. 6, 2005.
Cingular announced it would have 3G handsets out by Jan. 1, 2006.
It actually launched with these on March 6, 2006.
At the same time, Sprint was rolling out full-length movie services and GPS location-based-services on their handsets, while Cingular was struggling to meet deadlines to even get 3G out the door.
This is how things have been in the past and it seems as tho...
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It's not like Cingular to have "trouble meeting their deadlines" like you suggest. Have you taken the time to research their other launches?
In addition to solid subscriber growth, Cingular completed its nationwide network overlay of next-generation GSM/GPRS technology, six months ahead of its original schedule.
http://www.wi-fitechnology.com/displayarticle1319.html »
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theyellowdart said:muchdrama said:MattFoleyJr said:
I heard "blah, blah, blah" and was rudely distrubed from my sleeping in the ol' van.
Alright, Sprextel18...
Please tell me why Sprextel is the best with data before, now, and will be in the future. Please use complete sentences, and please do not simply regurgitate the worm you've been fed from your "channel checks" or press releases. Be "intellectual" with your reply.
Ready...
Go!
You're asking a lot.
so, lay off, because neither of you have come up with a good reason that sprint is NOT the best in data.
Yeah, I never said Sprint wasn't the leader in data. I just ...
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And jumping all over nextel18 isn't exactly necessary. He usually does have good things to say and is rarely too far off when he does say something. His posts generally tend to be fairly intellectual and from what I saw of the post trying to knock him didn't seem to show much intellect anyways. Let's chill a bit. You act like he just insulted your mother.
rytiffany said:
Sprint TV is a data service whether or not you like it. It's nothing to brag about or anything but you aren't cathing a broadcast from TV satellites. It runs off of the EV-DO network.
And jumping all over nextel18 isn't exactly necessary. He usually does have good things to say and is rarely too far off when he does say something. His posts generally tend to be fairly intellectual and from what I saw of the post trying to knock him didn't seem to show much intellect anyways. Let's chill a bit. You act like he just insulted your mother.
My bad
nextel18 said:
Yea, that is a good point, but you should also add that their data content and speeds are one of the best in the industry and will continue with this service and with Wimax.
Sometimes I think you're a souless robot that spits out witty retorts such as this:
"ARPU"
"ARPU"
"ARPU".
Data content and speeds and WiMAX don't mean crap if your customer service and ability to hold a call sucks.
I've had bad customer service at other providers. It's a relative term.
One thing to keep in mind about these numbers; there are some people confused with store reps and care reps, and often a care rep will not provide the service expected and when the customer gets the survey call, they answer the questions about the wrong person. So my score suffers because of the incompetence you all are talking about.
just so you know i have a 95.02 average csat rating for the last year, and my centre is at 91.85, which is tops in the care centres, both internal and vendor.
Ever heard of a term called add-a-slam?
It means a customer calls in to care wanting a phone to replace the crappy one they have. Care will tell the customer that the new phone is on it's way. The phone arrives, and the customer is confused that it has a new number on it, so they bring it to the store to have it activated on their existing number. The store rep finds a new line added to the account, and tells the customer what this means, and advises them to call back into care to request a return kit. In the meantime, the store rep upgrades or repairs the customer's existing phone, since that's all they wanted anyway, and sends them on ...
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"add-a-slam" i haven't heard that one before, but i'll find some where to use it. you and i should tour the nation and "educate" our fellow store and care reps on how to properly assist our loyal customers.you are right, there is too much mis information from both ends of the store/ cust care spectrum that leads to customers jumping ship and overall dissatisfaction, and there needs to be alot more people dedicated to providing the customer with superior knowledge,and service, not just you and i. 😎 😎
monkeyracer said:
My point was that Sprint seems to be first to industry with more data technologies than other competitors.
And a sterling reputation for great customer service and the ability to hold a call. As indicated in Consumer Reports year after year.
Yeah, this is sarcasm at its best.
sangyup81 said:
Cingular was the first to HSDPA in the entire world buddy.
Uh...wrong.
Cingular's Atlanta network was the first HSDPA network launched by a carrier worldwide.
It's plastered all over their site.
Cingular is a leader in third generation wireless technology. Its 3G network is the first widely available service in the world to use HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access) technology.
I've never had a dropped call on Cingular (or AT&T before them). I've been a Cingular customer (or AT&T before that) for about 12 years except for...
I had Sprint for about 7 months because my job required me to switch, and on average I experienced about a dropped call a week during that time.
Roadkill said:
Oh really? Got proof?
I've never had a dropped call on Cingular (or AT&T before them). I've been a Cingular customer (or AT&T before that) for about 12 years except for...
I had Sprint for about 7 months because my job required me to switch, and on average I experienced about a dropped call a week during that time.
I love how folks claim stuff like "I've been a customer for 12 years and I've never had a dropped call!".
Bull.
I've got Verizon, which I KNOW has the fewest dropped calls in the US, and I've experienced a dropped call here and there. Let's be realistic.
How do you KNOW Verizon has the fewest dropped calls in the US? Because Verizon paid for a study that says so? Wow, that's believable. 🙄
I suppose you believe politicians when they tell you that you can trust them, too?
But you're wrong. I've never had a dropped call on Cingular (or AT&T before it). I'll be the first to guess that I've probably just been lucky, but it's true.
Data on the other hand... that's a completely different story. My S710a (first rollout) drops the data network all the time. Shuts off Bluetooth on me now and then for no reason, too.
I think its funny how every carriers website says their company is proven to have the fewest dropped calls (even t-mobile).
First of all how the hell is it possible to prove this? Its not and thats why they all claim it.
If you really want to know, check out wikipedia. There is some very good information on all carriers. It gives the good and bad points of all.
Roadkill said:
Bull yourself.
How do you KNOW Verizon has the fewest dropped calls in the US? Because Verizon paid for a study that says so? Wow, that's believable. 🙄
No, I know because Consumer Reports subscribers constantly report Verizon as having the least amount of dropped calls year after year in nearly every major metropolitan area.
Cute third grade rolling the eyes tactic. Made me shake with fear and trepidation.
Roadkill said:
JD Power reviews customer satisfaction, not network reliability. It's a subtle distinction, but a relevant one when you're talking about whether or not claims of network reliability are true.
Yeah, but just using your noggin a little will tell you they're directly linked.
Roadkill said:
JD Power reviews customer satisfaction, not network reliability. It's a subtle distinction, but a relevant one when you're talking about whether or not claims of network reliability are true.
God could send angels down to proclaim the best network and someone would still have some bs reason why its not believable. 🙄
Roadkill said:
If the angels were only reporting which network's customers were the most satisfied with their network reliability, then those people would have a very good reason to doubt it.
So customer satisfaction means nothing? Where is your brain?
trevor83 said:
People here also forget VZW makes their claims based on independant unpaid surveys like JD Power that review ALL the carriers.
Oh, I'm not doubting that for a moment...but c'mon, I distinctly remember reading in the annual cell phone issue about customers enjoying Verizon the most because of the fewest dropped calls amongst responders to the survey.
trevor83 said:
Just to clarify, my comment wasn't directed at you, I'm generally in agreement with you. You seem to be one of the most sane unbiased posters here.
Oh, I can be biased with the best of them...but usually after seeking out facts that back up my claims. Most of the time I just make sarcastic remarks.
I don't trust surveys that rely on consumers to report hard facts. If you're happy with the overall level of service you're receiving, you're not going to notice a few dropped calls here and there. If you're unhappy, every single one of them is going to piss you off.
In my experience, Cingular and Sprint have phenominally crappy customer service and Verizon's is... well, less crappy. That's just my experience, but if it is true for others then there's an excellent chance that JD Power and Consumer Reports are going to get higher customer satisfaction ratings for Verizon than for Cingular and Sprint.
What it boils dow...
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Roadkill said:
Ah, so 3rd hand knowledge is good enough for you. Whatever floats your boat. Your preschool attitude is amusing.
Hey, I know the pitfalls of 3rd hand info just like you do...but for an independent magazine like Consumer Reports to repeat the same thing every year? C'mon.
And thanks, glad to amuse you.
Satisfied customers are less likely to notice occasional minor inconveniences. Pissed off customers are likely to notice every possible problem.
Spend enough time dealing with that disconnect and it becomes easy to see.
I'm not saying that network reliability and customer satisfaction aren't related, just that they aren't the same thing. Network reliability certainly affects customer satisfaction, but it's not the only thing that affects satisfaction. JD Power surveys customer satisfaction, and far too many people believe that equates to "most reliable net...
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Roadkill said:
Short of an independent study performed to test network reliability and nothing else we just can't know for sure based on JD Power's results.
I dunno...I'm swayed by thousdands of respondents saying the same stuff every year.
(With Sprint and Nextel I have only about a few, less than 10 dropped calls, within my 12 year stint combined. )
So who knows.
Heh, that's the first time I've ever heard that out of you. 🙄
RUFF1415 said:
So you're telling me that you actually use Cingular service?
Heh, that's the first time I've ever heard that out of you. 🙄
I wonder...would he burst into flame?
His claim is not true, because we don't ALL know who has the fewest dropped calls. Each person's experience is going to be different.
And the only independent study that I'm aware of showed that Cingular had the fewest dropped calls. Coincidentally, that backs up my own personal experience, but it might not back up anyone else's.
Roadkill said:
Understood. My contention was with his claim that "we all know that's not true."
His claim is not true, because we don't ALL know who has the fewest dropped calls. Each person's experience is going to be different.
And the only independent study that I'm aware of showed that Cingular had the fewest dropped calls. Coincidentally, that backs up my own personal experience, but it might not back up anyone else's.
So JD Power and Consumer Reports aren't independant? News to me. 🙄
We can get into each company but it is too easy.
RUFF1415 said:
Actually, he isn't.
Cingular's Atlanta network was the first HSDPA network launched by a carrier worldwide.
It's plastered all over their site.
Cingular is a leader in third generation wireless technology. Its 3G network is the first widely available service in the world to use HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access) technology.
Maybe it's something to do with the phrase "widely available service"?
RUFF1415 said:
You do realize that you're contradicting your own original statement, right?
Don't get your pants in a twist, Ruff...since two people contradict what you said, I was just asking. Geeze, man.
From what Cingular posts on their site, it's clear that they were the first carrier to deploy HSDPA, whether on a small or large scale.
It's all good.
I don't really care who you say is the best because there is no one true Mecca of cellphone providers.
End of discussion.
digitmasher said:
Hey, guess what. Every one of the providers drops calls. Want to know something else?
I don't really care who you say is the best because there is no one true Mecca of cellphone providers.
End of discussion.
Mecca? No. Better than the rest? Yes.
Zebrahead said:
And I think that we all can agree...Metro PCS definitely is the best 🤤
Oh, decidedly better...but the best? No.
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I've heard similar stories about Cingular's service in Atlanta. Makes me wonder what Verizon's service is like in the NE.
They first switched to Verizon, which was great around KC but sucked at their condo at the Lake of the Ozarks. They've since switched to Cingular and are finally happy, though they now only have spotty service on the drive from their home to the condo and back. It's fine on both ends, but sucks in between.
My brother in KC uses T-Mobile and loves it. He works for Kansas City Southern and does a lot of traveling. Apparently T-Mobile has a lot of cell towers within range of rai...
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macuser09 said:
There is no best carrier.
That's a myth created by people who don't know what they're talking about.
RUFF1415 said:
That was an honest question. No twisted pants.
From what Cingular posts on their site, it's clear that they were the first carrier to deploy HSDPA, whether on a small or large scale.
It's all good.
Well, that's what I was trying to point out: It's Cingular saying this.
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