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monkeyracer

Oct 24, 2006, 12:06 PM
Sprint is again the first to the industry with a new data technology.
Verizon, Cingular, nobody can touch that.
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sangyup81

Oct 24, 2006, 12:22 PM
Cingular was the first to HSDPA in the entire world buddy.

And if I recall, Sprint wasn't the first to EV-Do Rev. 0, Verizon was.
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eric Lin

Oct 24, 2006, 12:29 PM
cingular would have been the first to hsdpa had they (a) launched when they said they would and (b) launched hsdpa handsets or data cards. instead cingular launched hsdpa behind many other carriers.
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eric Lin

Oct 24, 2006, 12:35 PM
i should also point out that i can't confirm this is the first rev a launch worldwide. i know lg telecom is rolling it out in korea and may have launched in one area. its possible kddi has lit up a japanese city as well.
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RUFF1415

Oct 24, 2006, 2:24 PM
When considering the Atlanta network, Cingular was the first carrier to launch HSDPA worldwide.

It's plastered all over their site.
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en102

Oct 25, 2006, 11:42 PM
and AT&TWS was the first to launch UMTS in north America. 😉
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RUFF1415

Oct 26, 2006, 2:35 PM
Correct.

And Cingular was the first to implement HSDPA. 😉
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monkeyracer

Oct 24, 2006, 12:32 PM
My point was that Sprint seems to be first to industry with more data technologies than other competitors.
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barryefau

Oct 24, 2006, 1:32 PM
not a chance... Sprint has ONLY been the first to launch Rev A EVDO, Verizon was the 1st to launch 1xRTT and was the first to launch EVDO rev 0. Don't get started on Sprint TV cuz it sucks balls and it's not data!
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nextel18

Oct 24, 2006, 2:01 PM
Well, Sprint is the best with data before, now, and will be in the future.
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muchdrama

Oct 24, 2006, 2:13 PM
nextel18 said:
Well, Sprint is the best with data before, now, and will be in the future.


Give me a W!

Give me an H!

Give me an O!

Give me a C!

Give me an A!

Give me an R!

Give me an E!

Give me an S!

What's that spell?!

WHO CARES.
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muchdrama

Oct 24, 2006, 2:16 PM
nextel18 said:
Well, Sprint is the best with data before, now, and will be in the future.


PS--I just LOVE your profile blurb. Intellectual, huh?
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mauda04

Oct 30, 2006, 8:49 PM
Well at least he sounds adult. You can comment on ones intelligence- but it only makes your childish (and somewhat ignorant) behavior more noticable.

Not to mention, what he wrote was exactly what any other Sprint believer would write. Power up.
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MattFoleyJr

Oct 24, 2006, 3:45 PM
I heard "blah, blah, blah" and was rudely distrubed from my sleeping in the ol' van.

Alright, Sprextel18...

Please tell me why Sprextel is the best with data before, now, and will be in the future. Please use complete sentences, and please do not simply regurgitate the worm you've been fed from your "channel checks" or press releases. Be "intellectual" with your reply.

Ready...

Go!
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muchdrama

Oct 24, 2006, 4:20 PM
MattFoleyJr said:
I heard "blah, blah, blah" and was rudely distrubed from my sleeping in the ol' van.

Alright, Sprextel18...

Please tell me why Sprextel is the best with data before, now, and will be in the future. Please use complete sentences, and please do not simply regurgitate the worm you've been fed from your "channel checks" or press releases. Be "intellectual" with your reply.

Ready...

Go!


You're asking a lot.
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theyellowdart

Oct 25, 2006, 11:09 AM
muchdrama said:
MattFoleyJr said:
I heard "blah, blah, blah" and was rudely distrubed from my sleeping in the ol' van.

Alright, Sprextel18...

Please tell me why Sprextel is the best with data before, now, and will be in the future. Please use complete sentences, and please do not simply regurgitate the worm you've been fed from your "channel checks" or press releases. Be "intellectual" with your reply.

Ready...

Go!


You're asking a lot.


i think there are definately some grounds for saying that sprint has the best data now, and that they have for a while. their prices are good and their speeds are better than anything else out there. on top of that, they actu...
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MattFoleyJr

Oct 25, 2006, 12:33 PM
Yellow,

I'm not sure how the burden of proof is on me. I have claimed nothing at all, but if you would like a "counterexample" for this, allow me to provide one rather easily.

Sprint's network cannot handle a voice and data session at the same time. Cingular's 3G network can.

Advantage: Cingular

ooooh ooooh! While we're comparing the two companies:

Sprint falls back to their 1xRTT network when not in a 3G market. Sprint claims 40 to 70 kbps. Cingular customers can fall back to the EDGE network when not in a 3G area, giving them speeds of 70 to 135 kbps. A quick comparison on each company's website shows that Cingular's EDGE network has far more coverage than Sprint's 1xRTT network.

Advantage: Cingular

"the...
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theyellowdart

Oct 25, 2006, 4:44 PM
You are a doofus my friend. And a Cingular fanboi who blindly denies that any other carrier could be better in any way. 😳 Sprint isn't even my carrier of choice, I'm just asking people to be honest here.

EVDO Rev. A will do 3.1 mpbs!!! How do you deny that! It came from the mouth(keyboard) of Mr. Brome himself, in this very forum.

Sprint has a TV service out now that trumps Verizon, and no GSM provider has anything currently that comes close to a CDMA carrier.

Sprint is going to have MediaFLO(Verizon too) which will be full-fledged TV programming on a mobile phone.

Sprint brings things(data) out BEFORE deadline, whereas Cingular consistently pushes dates back, and fails to deliver in multiple areas. 😳 If you don't offer ...
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MattFoleyJr

Oct 25, 2006, 6:41 PM
"You are a doofus my friend."

Whoa, Yellerdart. We aren't friends, and that was good use of the word "doofus." I haven't seen or heard that in a long, long time. Maybe you can revive some other names next time!

"And a Cingular fanboi who blindly denies that any other carrier could be better in any way."

I'm not sure where you got that idea from. It must be from smoking too many yellowdarts. You darted out with the Cingular reference before I did. I was just giving you your "reason" why Sprint wasn't the best.

"Sprint isn't even my carrier of choice, I'm just asking people to be honest here."

Never said it was, and I really don't care who theyellowdart chooses. Honestly. 😈

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theyellowdart

Oct 25, 2006, 8:06 PM
Man, I have run out of energy even trying to talk sense to you.

Anybody in their right mind knows that Cingular has had some problems implementing their high-speed data. And anybody who follows the announcements sees that Sprint is ahead of everyone else and even their own deadlines on rolling out next-generation high speed.

Also, while other carriers offer clips, Sprint offers full episodes. And while MobileESPN didn't succeed, Sprint is the only carrier with enough data and spectrum built out to support as many MVNOs as they do.

I think there are areas where Cingular beats Sprint. I just think you are kidding yourself if you say Cingular beats them in data.

I would spend the time to look up links to prove my case, heck I m...
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RUFF1415

Oct 25, 2006, 9:13 PM
I'm a bit perplexed as to where you're getting the information that Cingular hasn't met their deadlines.

Cingular said that they would have HSDPA up and running in the top 100 markets by year end, and they are already well on their way to hitting that mark (60+ markets covered).

By the way, the additional 40 some markets are on schedule to be deployed in November.

Patience is virtue, really.
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nextel18

Oct 26, 2006, 7:26 PM
That is why I ignored most of those people who seem not to understand these types of things and because of that, there is need to explain yourself to them.
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nextel18

Oct 26, 2006, 7:29 PM
You also forgot Qchat, Wimax and that joint venture they set up with the cable companies that other carriers dream of. Also the best prepaid in the industry. In addition, best ARPU both DATA and VOICE in the industry also.
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RUFF1415

Oct 26, 2006, 9:47 PM
And the worst postpaid, right?
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Roadkill

Oct 27, 2006, 12:35 PM
Again just personal experience, but my company gets far and away the best revenue per user from Sprint. Prepaid, postpaid, whatever.

Sprint rocks for application developers. I just can't stand 'em from a customer perspective.
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muchdrama

Oct 27, 2006, 3:25 PM
RUFF1415 said:
And the worst postpaid, right?


ZING!
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mauda04

Oct 30, 2006, 8:57 PM
The topic is "first to Rev A." incase everyone forgot.
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RUFF1415

Oct 30, 2006, 9:58 PM
Well, if you hadn't noticed, "Sprint people" like to take things off topic and trumpet the fact that they're the best at prepaid. Hardly something to brag about when it's the only thing to brag about.

The response was appropriate and fitting.

Have a good night!
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muchdrama

Oct 27, 2006, 3:25 PM
nextel18 said:
In addition, best ARPU both DATA and VOICE in the industry also.


Oy vey. 🙄
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theyellowdart

Oct 25, 2006, 4:50 PM
if Sprint wasn't the industry leader in data, wouldn't you think MobileESPN (a data-centric MVNO) would've gone with a different carrier?
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MattFoleyJr

Oct 25, 2006, 6:42 PM
LMAO

Did you really just use MobileESPN as an example to prove a point about being an industry leader??? 🤣
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RUFF1415

Oct 25, 2006, 9:14 PM
Didn't MobileESPN just go belly up?
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RUFF1415

Oct 25, 2006, 9:17 PM
*ESPN Mobile

https://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=1901 »

Yeah, that didn't really help your argument, Yellow.
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theyellowdart

Oct 26, 2006, 11:48 AM
ok, to clarify my points, with news briefs taken from this very site.

In October, Cingular announced that they would launch 3G by Nov. 1, 2005.

Cingular launched with a laptop card reaching 1.8mpbs burst speeds on download and they announced "an upload speed of only 40-60 Kbps at launch, which is well below expectations".
This was in fact on Dec. 6, 2005.

Cingular announced it would have 3G handsets out by Jan. 1, 2006.
It actually launched with these on March 6, 2006.

At the same time, Sprint was rolling out full-length movie services and GPS location-based-services on their handsets, while Cingular was struggling to meet deadlines to even get 3G out the door.

This is how things have been in the past and it seems as tho...
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RUFF1415

Oct 26, 2006, 2:57 PM
The examples you have given are both insignificant target dates...not promises. Cingular being "behind schedule" on their 3G rollout (which again, I stress they are not because they did promise to have HSDPA launched in 100 markets by year end, and we still have two more months...) is one instance.

It's not like Cingular to have "trouble meeting their deadlines" like you suggest. Have you taken the time to research their other launches?

In addition to solid subscriber growth, Cingular completed its nationwide network overlay of next-generation GSM/GPRS technology, six months ahead of its original schedule.

http://www.wi-fitechnology.com/displayarticle1319.html »

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nextel18

Oct 26, 2006, 7:31 PM
They also have the most capacity on their network. (Don't forget the biggest spectrum position.)
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muchdrama

Oct 25, 2006, 3:14 PM
theyellowdart said:
muchdrama said:
MattFoleyJr said:
I heard "blah, blah, blah" and was rudely distrubed from my sleeping in the ol' van.

Alright, Sprextel18...

Please tell me why Sprextel is the best with data before, now, and will be in the future. Please use complete sentences, and please do not simply regurgitate the worm you've been fed from your "channel checks" or press releases. Be "intellectual" with your reply.

Ready...

Go!


You're asking a lot.



so, lay off, because neither of you have come up with a good reason that sprint is NOT the best in data.



Yeah, I never said Sprint wasn't the leader in data. I just ...
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snang

Oct 24, 2006, 2:04 PM
Sprint TV isn't data? That means...it's a voice service?
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rytiffany

Oct 24, 2006, 9:10 PM
Sprint TV is a data service whether or not you like it. It's nothing to brag about or anything but you aren't cathing a broadcast from TV satellites. It runs off of the EV-DO network.

And jumping all over nextel18 isn't exactly necessary. He usually does have good things to say and is rarely too far off when he does say something. His posts generally tend to be fairly intellectual and from what I saw of the post trying to knock him didn't seem to show much intellect anyways. Let's chill a bit. You act like he just insulted your mother.
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rytiffany

Oct 24, 2006, 9:17 PM
rytiffany said:
Sprint TV is a data service whether or not you like it. It's nothing to brag about or anything but you aren't cathing a broadcast from TV satellites. It runs off of the EV-DO network.

And jumping all over nextel18 isn't exactly necessary. He usually does have good things to say and is rarely too far off when he does say something. His posts generally tend to be fairly intellectual and from what I saw of the post trying to knock him didn't seem to show much intellect anyways. Let's chill a bit. You act like he just insulted your mother.


My bad
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snang

Oct 24, 2006, 9:29 PM
That was sarcasm for the guy who said it wasn't a data service.
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barryefau

Oct 24, 2006, 10:51 PM
It's a feature on the data network, GOSH
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snang

Oct 25, 2006, 10:22 AM
Because it uses data.
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barryefau

Oct 25, 2006, 8:07 PM
oh boy... go back to school ;)
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rytiffany

Oct 25, 2006, 1:20 PM
hahaha Don't be jealous because I've been online chatting with babes all day.
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nextel18

Oct 24, 2006, 2:00 PM
Yea, that is a good point, but you should also add that their data content and speeds are one of the best in the industry and will continue with this service and with Wimax.
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muchdrama

Oct 24, 2006, 2:11 PM
nextel18 said:
Yea, that is a good point, but you should also add that their data content and speeds are one of the best in the industry and will continue with this service and with Wimax.


Sometimes I think you're a souless robot that spits out witty retorts such as this:

"ARPU"
"ARPU"
"ARPU".

Data content and speeds and WiMAX don't mean crap if your customer service and ability to hold a call sucks.
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MattFoleyJr

Oct 24, 2006, 3:40 PM
HA!!!!!
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rytiffany

Oct 24, 2006, 9:12 PM
I don't remember the last time I dropped a call with sprint. Customer service, though, there is no argument. I'll admit that it is about as good as a poop flavored lolsucker.
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monkeyracer

Oct 25, 2006, 11:59 AM
Ok, so customer service sucks, at least for the most part. That's why I do my job in my area and give my customers the best experience I can give them. So for those that I come into contact with I do what I can to improve that expectation. My CSAT numbers prove this, as well as our store, we are consistently among the top group in this rating.

I've had bad customer service at other providers. It's a relative term.
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monkeyracer

Oct 25, 2006, 5:01 PM
My year to date average is 78.27% and my most recent months being 100%. My store is at 80.34%, and we have been in the top 5 in my district a few times recently. Both are above national average.

One thing to keep in mind about these numbers; there are some people confused with store reps and care reps, and often a care rep will not provide the service expected and when the customer gets the survey call, they answer the questions about the wrong person. So my score suffers because of the incompetence you all are talking about.
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romeowhiskey

Nov 1, 2006, 11:21 AM
So You are a store Rep not a care rep that has to clean up after a store rep has severly messed an account up, give out shoddy information, and doesn't have the minerals to tell the customer the truth about upgrade fees, 3g and evdo vision plans, casual data and text charges just to keep the phone sale, you guys tell the cust to go home and dial customer care so you don't have to deal with them when they get all the proper info, and you know you are wrong.
just so you know i have a 95.02 average csat rating for the last year, and my centre is at 91.85, which is tops in the care centres, both internal and vendor.
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monkeyracer

Nov 1, 2006, 11:49 AM
I'm a store rep that cleans up the mistakes of uneducated third party reps and misinforming care reps.
Ever heard of a term called add-a-slam?
It means a customer calls in to care wanting a phone to replace the crappy one they have. Care will tell the customer that the new phone is on it's way. The phone arrives, and the customer is confused that it has a new number on it, so they bring it to the store to have it activated on their existing number. The store rep finds a new line added to the account, and tells the customer what this means, and advises them to call back into care to request a return kit. In the meantime, the store rep upgrades or repairs the customer's existing phone, since that's all they wanted anyway, and sends them on ...
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romeowhiskey

Nov 1, 2006, 5:20 PM
😁 😁 😁

"add-a-slam" i haven't heard that one before, but i'll find some where to use it. you and i should tour the nation and "educate" our fellow store and care reps on how to properly assist our loyal customers.you are right, there is too much mis information from both ends of the store/ cust care spectrum that leads to customers jumping ship and overall dissatisfaction, and there needs to be alot more people dedicated to providing the customer with superior knowledge,and service, not just you and i. 😎 😎
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muchdrama

Oct 24, 2006, 2:08 PM
monkeyracer said:
My point was that Sprint seems to be first to industry with more data technologies than other competitors.


And a sterling reputation for great customer service and the ability to hold a call. As indicated in Consumer Reports year after year.

Yeah, this is sarcasm at its best.
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muchdrama

Oct 24, 2006, 2:06 PM
sangyup81 said:
Cingular was the first to HSDPA in the entire world buddy.



Uh...wrong.
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RUFF1415

Oct 24, 2006, 2:31 PM
Actually, he isn't.

Cingular's Atlanta network was the first HSDPA network launched by a carrier worldwide.

It's plastered all over their site.

Cingular is a leader in third generation wireless technology. Its 3G network is the first widely available service in the world to use HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access) technology.
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ArmySF

Oct 24, 2006, 2:37 PM
They also say they have the fewest dropped calls of any network, and we all know thats not true 😁
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Roadkill

Oct 24, 2006, 3:12 PM
Oh really? Got proof?

I've never had a dropped call on Cingular (or AT&T before them). I've been a Cingular customer (or AT&T before that) for about 12 years except for...

I had Sprint for about 7 months because my job required me to switch, and on average I experienced about a dropped call a week during that time.
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muchdrama

Oct 24, 2006, 4:19 PM
Roadkill said:
Oh really? Got proof?

I've never had a dropped call on Cingular (or AT&T before them). I've been a Cingular customer (or AT&T before that) for about 12 years except for...

I had Sprint for about 7 months because my job required me to switch, and on average I experienced about a dropped call a week during that time.


I love how folks claim stuff like "I've been a customer for 12 years and I've never had a dropped call!".

Bull.

I've got Verizon, which I KNOW has the fewest dropped calls in the US, and I've experienced a dropped call here and there. Let's be realistic.
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Roadkill

Oct 25, 2006, 1:30 PM
Bull yourself.

How do you KNOW Verizon has the fewest dropped calls in the US? Because Verizon paid for a study that says so? Wow, that's believable. 🙄

I suppose you believe politicians when they tell you that you can trust them, too?

But you're wrong. I've never had a dropped call on Cingular (or AT&T before it). I'll be the first to guess that I've probably just been lucky, but it's true.

Data on the other hand... that's a completely different story. My S710a (first rollout) drops the data network all the time. Shuts off Bluetooth on me now and then for no reason, too.
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wu10304

Oct 25, 2006, 1:39 PM
Do you guys believe everything you hear?

I think its funny how every carriers website says their company is proven to have the fewest dropped calls (even t-mobile).

First of all how the hell is it possible to prove this? Its not and thats why they all claim it.

If you really want to know, check out wikipedia. There is some very good information on all carriers. It gives the good and bad points of all.
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Roadkill

Oct 25, 2006, 1:41 PM
What, you believe wikipedia?

😉
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wu10304

Oct 25, 2006, 1:50 PM
I believe wikipedia more than i believe cingular and tmobile saying they have the least amount of dropped calls. There is actually very good info on each carrier. You should check it out
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muchdrama

Oct 25, 2006, 3:09 PM
Roadkill said:
Bull yourself.

How do you KNOW Verizon has the fewest dropped calls in the US? Because Verizon paid for a study that says so? Wow, that's believable. 🙄



No, I know because Consumer Reports subscribers constantly report Verizon as having the least amount of dropped calls year after year in nearly every major metropolitan area.

Cute third grade rolling the eyes tactic. Made me shake with fear and trepidation.
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trevor83

Oct 26, 2006, 1:22 PM
People here also forget VZW makes their claims based on independant unpaid surveys like JD Power that review ALL the carriers.
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Roadkill

Oct 26, 2006, 5:52 PM
JD Power reviews customer satisfaction, not network reliability. It's a subtle distinction, but a relevant one when you're talking about whether or not claims of network reliability are true.
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muchdrama

Oct 27, 2006, 3:19 PM
Roadkill said:
JD Power reviews customer satisfaction, not network reliability. It's a subtle distinction, but a relevant one when you're talking about whether or not claims of network reliability are true.


Yeah, but just using your noggin a little will tell you they're directly linked.
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trevor83

Oct 28, 2006, 9:12 AM
Roadkill said:
JD Power reviews customer satisfaction, not network reliability. It's a subtle distinction, but a relevant one when you're talking about whether or not claims of network reliability are true.


God could send angels down to proclaim the best network and someone would still have some bs reason why its not believable. 🙄
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Roadkill

Oct 30, 2006, 1:15 PM
If the angels were only reporting which network's customers were the most satisfied with their network reliability, then those people would have a very good reason to doubt it.
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trevor83

Oct 31, 2006, 10:42 AM
Roadkill said:
If the angels were only reporting which network's customers were the most satisfied with their network reliability, then those people would have a very good reason to doubt it.


So customer satisfaction means nothing? Where is your brain?
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muchdrama

Oct 27, 2006, 3:21 PM
trevor83 said:
People here also forget VZW makes their claims based on independant unpaid surveys like JD Power that review ALL the carriers.


Oh, I'm not doubting that for a moment...but c'mon, I distinctly remember reading in the annual cell phone issue about customers enjoying Verizon the most because of the fewest dropped calls amongst responders to the survey.
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trevor83

Oct 30, 2006, 10:23 AM
Just to clarify, my comment wasn't directed at you, I'm generally in agreement with you. You seem to be one of the most sane unbiased posters here.
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muchdrama

Oct 30, 2006, 4:31 PM
trevor83 said:
Just to clarify, my comment wasn't directed at you, I'm generally in agreement with you. You seem to be one of the most sane unbiased posters here.


Oh, I can be biased with the best of them...but usually after seeking out facts that back up my claims. Most of the time I just make sarcastic remarks.
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Roadkill

Oct 26, 2006, 6:00 PM
Ah, so 3rd hand knowledge is good enough for you. Whatever floats your boat. Your preschool attitude is amusing.

I don't trust surveys that rely on consumers to report hard facts. If you're happy with the overall level of service you're receiving, you're not going to notice a few dropped calls here and there. If you're unhappy, every single one of them is going to piss you off.

In my experience, Cingular and Sprint have phenominally crappy customer service and Verizon's is... well, less crappy. That's just my experience, but if it is true for others then there's an excellent chance that JD Power and Consumer Reports are going to get higher customer satisfaction ratings for Verizon than for Cingular and Sprint.

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muchdrama

Oct 27, 2006, 3:23 PM
Roadkill said:
Ah, so 3rd hand knowledge is good enough for you. Whatever floats your boat. Your preschool attitude is amusing.



Hey, I know the pitfalls of 3rd hand info just like you do...but for an independent magazine like Consumer Reports to repeat the same thing every year? C'mon.

And thanks, glad to amuse you.
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Roadkill

Oct 30, 2006, 1:13 PM
Like I said elsewhere, there's a subtle distinction between customer satisfaction and actual reliability testing, but it's an important one if you're trying to prove something.

Satisfied customers are less likely to notice occasional minor inconveniences. Pissed off customers are likely to notice every possible problem.

Spend enough time dealing with that disconnect and it becomes easy to see.

I'm not saying that network reliability and customer satisfaction aren't related, just that they aren't the same thing. Network reliability certainly affects customer satisfaction, but it's not the only thing that affects satisfaction. JD Power surveys customer satisfaction, and far too many people believe that equates to "most reliable net...
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muchdrama

Oct 30, 2006, 4:32 PM
Roadkill said:

Short of an independent study performed to test network reliability and nothing else we just can't know for sure based on JD Power's results.


I dunno...I'm swayed by thousdands of respondents saying the same stuff every year.
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nextel18

Oct 24, 2006, 5:46 PM
I have had plenty of dropped calls prior, in between and after the merger with Cingular and ATTWS.

(With Sprint and Nextel I have only about a few, less than 10 dropped calls, within my 12 year stint combined. )

So who knows.
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RUFF1415

Oct 24, 2006, 11:08 PM
So you're telling me that you actually use Cingular service?

Heh, that's the first time I've ever heard that out of you. 🙄
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muchdrama

Oct 25, 2006, 3:16 PM
RUFF1415 said:
So you're telling me that you actually use Cingular service?

Heh, that's the first time I've ever heard that out of you. 🙄


I wonder...would he burst into flame?
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Roadkill

Oct 25, 2006, 1:33 PM
Understood. My contention was with his claim that "we all know that's not true."

His claim is not true, because we don't ALL know who has the fewest dropped calls. Each person's experience is going to be different.

And the only independent study that I'm aware of showed that Cingular had the fewest dropped calls. Coincidentally, that backs up my own personal experience, but it might not back up anyone else's.
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trevor83

Oct 26, 2006, 1:25 PM
Roadkill said:
Understood. My contention was with his claim that "we all know that's not true."

His claim is not true, because we don't ALL know who has the fewest dropped calls. Each person's experience is going to be different.

And the only independent study that I'm aware of showed that Cingular had the fewest dropped calls. Coincidentally, that backs up my own personal experience, but it might not back up anyone else's.


So JD Power and Consumer Reports aren't independant? News to me. 🙄
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nextel18

Oct 24, 2006, 5:47 PM
Very true. Obviously, all of the carriers lie about something so nothing is new.

We can get into each company but it is too easy.
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muchdrama

Oct 24, 2006, 4:16 PM
RUFF1415 said:
Actually, he isn't.

Cingular's Atlanta network was the first HSDPA network launched by a carrier worldwide.

It's plastered all over their site.

Cingular is a leader in third generation wireless technology. Its 3G network is the first widely available service in the world to use HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access) technology.


Maybe it's something to do with the phrase "widely available service"?
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RUFF1415

Oct 24, 2006, 4:34 PM
You do realize that you're contradicting your own original statement, right?
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muchdrama

Oct 24, 2006, 6:06 PM
RUFF1415 said:
You do realize that you're contradicting your own original statement, right?


Don't get your pants in a twist, Ruff...since two people contradict what you said, I was just asking. Geeze, man.
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RUFF1415

Oct 24, 2006, 11:06 PM
That was an honest question. No twisted pants.

From what Cingular posts on their site, it's clear that they were the first carrier to deploy HSDPA, whether on a small or large scale.

It's all good.
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Roadkill

Oct 25, 2006, 1:36 PM
What muchdrama is pointing out is that even Cingular doesn't claim to be the first, period. They claim to be the first to make it "widely available" whatever that means.
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digitmasher

Oct 25, 2006, 2:26 PM
Hey, guess what. Every one of the providers drops calls. Want to know something else?

I don't really care who you say is the best because there is no one true Mecca of cellphone providers.

End of discussion.
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muchdrama

Oct 25, 2006, 3:06 PM
digitmasher said:
Hey, guess what. Every one of the providers drops calls. Want to know something else?

I don't really care who you say is the best because there is no one true Mecca of cellphone providers.

End of discussion.


Mecca? No. Better than the rest? Yes.
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Zebrahead

Oct 26, 2006, 3:44 PM
And I think that we all can agree...Metro PCS definitely is the best 🤤
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muchdrama

Oct 27, 2006, 3:20 PM
Zebrahead said:
And I think that we all can agree...Metro PCS definitely is the best 🤤


Oh, decidedly better...but the best? No.
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macuser09

Oct 27, 2006, 11:54 PM
There is no best carrier. It all depends where you are and what you want your phone to do. Where I live Cingular is the worst carrier around and verizon has no service. In Illinois and Missouri Cingular has a very bad network with towers too far apart, constant dropped calls, static and calls not going through. I have Sprint because it is the only carrier that is reliable where I'm at. I have used my phone all over the U.S. this year and was in many areas where my friends with Cingular couldn't use their phones. It is all about the roaming agreements and if GSM is available. Many times I was out 50+ miles from civilization in Utah and Nevada when that occurrence would happen. For me Sprint works and works well. No carrier is the bes...
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Roadkill

Oct 30, 2006, 1:21 PM
My parents live just outside Kansas City - Sprint's world headquarters - and finally gave up on Sprint because the network was so bad.

I've heard similar stories about Cingular's service in Atlanta. Makes me wonder what Verizon's service is like in the NE.

They first switched to Verizon, which was great around KC but sucked at their condo at the Lake of the Ozarks. They've since switched to Cingular and are finally happy, though they now only have spotty service on the drive from their home to the condo and back. It's fine on both ends, but sucks in between.

My brother in KC uses T-Mobile and loves it. He works for Kansas City Southern and does a lot of traveling. Apparently T-Mobile has a lot of cell towers within range of rai...
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muchdrama

Oct 30, 2006, 4:30 PM
macuser09 said:
There is no best carrier.


That's a myth created by people who don't know what they're talking about.
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muchdrama

Oct 25, 2006, 3:05 PM
RUFF1415 said:
That was an honest question. No twisted pants.

From what Cingular posts on their site, it's clear that they were the first carrier to deploy HSDPA, whether on a small or large scale.

It's all good.


Well, that's what I was trying to point out: It's Cingular saying this.
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