T-Mobile Will Begin Selling 3G Next Year
Can you help me understand this please
1700 MHz) that no carrier could previously use, they will not be able to use current 3G handsets.
Why 1700? are there any pros or cons regarding these?
Dotson also revealed that T-Mobile will launch UMA Cellular / Wi-Fi services beginning next year.
I'm not understaning this either how does wi-fi differ from 3G, both just access the Internet right? How does wi-fi differ from their current hotspots? I don't don't understand thank you.
Why 1700? are there any pros or cons regarding these?
Dotson also revealed that T-Mobile will launch UMA Cellular / Wi-Fi services beginning next year.
I'm not understaning this either how does wi-fi differ from 3G, both just access the Internet right? How does wi-fi differ from their current hotspots? I don't don't understand thank you.
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As far as the 1700 Mhz, no other carrier uses this frequency. Current carriers use 850/1900/2100 Mhz, hence, current 3G phones only use 850/1900/2100 Mhz, so they won't be compatible with 1700 Mhz when T-Mobile rolls this out.
As far as UMA cellular, that is using your cell phone to make calls while within a wi-fi range. For instance, if you are at home and your phone doesn't get any cellular service there, your phone will switch to your wi-fi network to make a call. It's like Vonage (Internet phone) on your cell phone.
As far as UMA cellular, that is using your cell phone to make calls while within a wi-fi range. For instance, if you are at home and your phone doesn't get any cellular service there, your phone will switch to your wi-fi network to make a call. It's like Vonage (Internet phone) on your cell phone.
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Well THANK YOU that clears that up for me, i guess i still wonder if there is a downfall to only having a single band?
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Its not T-Mobile's fault. They could only buy what the FCC is giving out for sale. They say the 1700MHz band, since Europe uses the 2100/1900MHz band for 3G. Here we use the 1900MHz band for voice service, so it won't work since T-Mobile doesn't have that much 1900MHz to put data on their voice network without worrying about affecting their voice network. Its like you using a cordless phone, which uses the 900MHz band here. We can't use that band here for cell phones since, Europe and other overseas markets uses that for cell phone voice services.
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terry, thank you. i think that is an excellent explanation. new 2 tmo, we're working on something that should help explain this better. you're not alone.
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I suppose I'll take a crack at this...
You are exactly right about this. 1700 MHz is a brand new spectrum for mobile phones; no one has ever created a phone that uses this frequency. So far the only frequencies in wide use are 800/850, 900, 1800, 1900 and 2100 MHz. And that is for CDMA as well as GSM across the globe.
As for the pros and cons of 1700 MHz, I would say it will behave very similar to that of the PCS band (1900 MHz), that is, goes pretty far from its tower to supply reception to a large area, but can be fairly weak when attempting to punch through buildings. This has...
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New_2_T-Mobile said:
1700 MHz) that no carrier could previously use, they will not be able to use current 3G handsets.
You are exactly right about this. 1700 MHz is a brand new spectrum for mobile phones; no one has ever created a phone that uses this frequency. So far the only frequencies in wide use are 800/850, 900, 1800, 1900 and 2100 MHz. And that is for CDMA as well as GSM across the globe.
As for the pros and cons of 1700 MHz, I would say it will behave very similar to that of the PCS band (1900 MHz), that is, goes pretty far from its tower to supply reception to a large area, but can be fairly weak when attempting to punch through buildings. This has...
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I suppose I'll take a crack at this...New_2_T-Mobile said:
1700 MHz) that no carrier could previously use, they will not be able to use current 3G handsets.
You are exactly right about this. 1700 MHz is a brand new spectrum for mobile phones; no one has ever created a phone that uses this frequency. So far the only frequencies in wide use are 800/850, 900, 1800, 1900 and 2100 MHz. And that is for CDMA as well as GSM across the globe.
As for the pros and cons of 1700 MHz, I would say it will behave very similar to that of the PCS band (1900 MHz), that is, goes pretty far from its tower to supply reception to a large area, but can be fairly weak when attempting t
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I wonder if future Cingy phones will have the 1700 freq band. Cingy purchased some spectrum as well
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They might. But Cingular's 3G network will mostly be 850/1900MHz UMTS/HSDPA.
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i just changed from sprint to tmobil can u tell me if that was at good move thank you sprint bills was killing me at they cust services is too nasty âšī¸
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this can avoid confusing
too many ppls have high hope that EA 2100 will work on T-Mobile 3G, this is not true
the difference between EA and T-Mobile 3G is UPLOAD
using 1700 instead of 2100 is reasonable
too many ppls have high hope that EA 2100 will work on T-Mobile 3G, this is not true
the difference between EA and T-Mobile 3G is UPLOAD
using 1700 instead of 2100 is reasonable
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With the 1700 MHZ band; no GSM cell phone is registered for this frequency.
That means that you will have to buy new phones. I don't know why they did not program the new T-Mobile Pearl Grey V3 with the 1700MHZ.
I just purchase this phone and it will be obsolete unless they give my the subsidy code!
I will not buy another phone from T-Mobile or anyone else until things have stabilize.
What a waste of money. They should just get roaming rights until the have done all the U.S. and they in 2008-2009 have the single band. What a bunch of clowns!
T-Mobile better have a great trade-in or they will get lot of lawsuit from people like me who purchase a phone of theres that is already obsolete before it is shipped.
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That means that you will have to buy new phones. I don't know why they did not program the new T-Mobile Pearl Grey V3 with the 1700MHZ.
I just purchase this phone and it will be obsolete unless they give my the subsidy code!
I will not buy another phone from T-Mobile or anyone else until things have stabilize.
What a waste of money. They should just get roaming rights until the have done all the U.S. and they in 2008-2009 have the single band. What a bunch of clowns!
T-Mobile better have a great trade-in or they will get lot of lawsuit from people like me who purchase a phone of theres that is already obsolete before it is shipped.
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This wouldn't be a lawsuit situation. T-Mobile is going to continue to come out with new handsets to generate sales as is their right. T-Mobile can not help the fact that the auction ended after the release of the Pearl and they can't haev RIM build and manufacture the Pearl with a network band they don't own yet let alone have not even developed into something usable by consumers.
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From a consumers point of view,
T-Mobile is going to face alot of activists that feel cheated out of the phone contact if the price of a new phone is near the same as the status quo that they previously paid. They will not only have to absorb the cost of their recent phone purchase which is worthless to T-Mobiles operation but go further in the pocket book to buy another phone within a years time?
It will bring a class action lawsuit to get damages.
After all; people are paying alot for cellphone services already and to expect them to pay even more and to sign another extend contact; well; they will end up leave T-Mobile and suit them at the same time.
T-Mobile is going to face alot of activists that feel cheated out of the phone contact if the price of a new phone is near the same as the status quo that they previously paid. They will not only have to absorb the cost of their recent phone purchase which is worthless to T-Mobiles operation but go further in the pocket book to buy another phone within a years time?
It will bring a class action lawsuit to get damages.
After all; people are paying alot for cellphone services already and to expect them to pay even more and to sign another extend contact; well; they will end up leave T-Mobile and suit them at the same time.
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You're assuming that adding a band will make the other bands obsolete. This is not the case.
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vaspider said:
You're assuming that adding a band will make the other bands obsolete. This is not the case.
From PC Mag:
"Because T-Mobile 3G services will be in a new band (1700 MHz) that no carrier could previously use, they will not be able to use current 3G handsets. However T-Mobile feels that because their 3G service will be limited to a single band, that they will be able to offer inexpensive 3G handsets after launch. "
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T-Mobile feels that because their 3G service will be limited to a single band.
Does not mention multiple bands like Quad Band. Only single band!
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So if you want 3g you need to get a new phone. That's the case no matter what.
You'll still get voice and gprs on you current phone.
You'll still get voice and gprs on you current phone.
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Well put staiano, they aren't saying they are dropping the 2G services, just saying that they are adding a single, 3G band. If you want 3G, you buy a new phone, if you don't, you won't have to buy one. Simple as that.
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harry, dude...are you going to file a lawsuit against the company who built your computer too since that was most certainly obsolete the day you walked out of the store with it
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Um...Please stop getting mad at T-Mobile. How could Motorola put a band in a phone that was just auctioned off?! Plus why would they put a band on a phone that people can't even use yet, since most places don't have the towers to use that band. đ
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How do some fun facts for the day sound? Well, I won't take ALL of the credit, it's actually all thanks to HaryWild for bringing it to my attention. Thanks to his rambling, threatening, and distasteful remarks - he has enlightened us once again about just how many morons walk the earth with their lawyers having to hold their hands to cross the streets these days. Motorola can't see into the future? WHAT? Why? cause i know i can... How about everyone else?
HaryWild, your typo's are about as useless as your arguments claiming T-Mobile has pointed their finger at you and laughed. You bought a phone that was created, materialized, passed by the FCC, and righteously made its way to retail stores around the world before the new bandwidth was a...
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HaryWild, your typo's are about as useless as your arguments claiming T-Mobile has pointed their finger at you and laughed. You bought a phone that was created, materialized, passed by the FCC, and righteously made its way to retail stores around the world before the new bandwidth was a...
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Well then smarty pants; what is the new spectrum going to be used for other then internet services? It sounds like you the know-it-all is not sure either!
So unless you can tell me where my argument is unfounded; I think T-Mobile will have to do some PR work and also give a great pricing on the future single band GSM phones for people who recently purchased a T-Mobile phone.
Thank is the way it should be, pal!
Did I make a typo? I type it as fast as I could to ignite some further comment from you that is of the blatant kind!
Peace!
So unless you can tell me where my argument is unfounded; I think T-Mobile will have to do some PR work and also give a great pricing on the future single band GSM phones for people who recently purchased a T-Mobile phone.
Thank is the way it should be, pal!
Did I make a typo? I type it as fast as I could to ignite some further comment from you that is of the blatant kind!
Peace!
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RIM, the manufacturer of the Pearl, didn't make the Pearl 3G capable, therefore it shouldn't concern you that T-Mobile is going to offer 3G service in the future.
In fact, no phones in T-Mobile lineup have the capability of doing 3G. Yet. Once the service gets up and running, you'll see manufacturers making 3G phones for T-Mobile.
If you think you need 3G service in the future, then you may need to purchase another phone. But if you were looking to make calls, do some web browsing, etc., then your phone will do just fine.
In fact, no phones in T-Mobile lineup have the capability of doing 3G. Yet. Once the service gets up and running, you'll see manufacturers making 3G phones for T-Mobile.
If you think you need 3G service in the future, then you may need to purchase another phone. But if you were looking to make calls, do some web browsing, etc., then your phone will do just fine.
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Harry, you're just another one of those sue happy Americans that wants to look for a reason to file a lawsuit. It's obvious by your post that's what you are. Your handset was released prior to the auction closing. Think about what that means before you open your mouth in the future. Even if the auction closed the day before the handset, it still would have been released without being 3G capable. The reason why is 3G for T-Mobile will not happen for 1 to 2 years! Your contract will be over and if you want a handset that is 3G capable, you'll have to buy a new one, heaven forbid.
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