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this auction is making t-mo look pretty attractive...

MrBlackMage

Aug 22, 2006, 7:17 PM
So... if t-mo wins all these licenses in the end, how long do u guys think it would take to see substantial improvements in their coverage? As a T-mo/sprintnextel/cingy retalier i feel that t-mobile has most of the customer's desires covered (with the exception of reliable coverage.) A boost in that one weak category could bring them a large number of contracts.
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evergreendrive

Aug 22, 2006, 9:38 PM
Well, the problem is the auction is for spectrum in 1700 and 2100mhz. T-mobile uses 1900/850 roaming for voice coverage. This auction is mainly for spectrum to be used for future data services. For voice coverage enhancements you need to get a hold of tmo and find out the build out plans for your area.
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nextel18

Aug 23, 2006, 10:32 AM
It depends how quickly they can clear the incumbents, their spectrum, and implement. It could probably improve coverage and capacity within 3-12 months.
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Rich Brome

Aug 23, 2006, 11:41 AM
This new spectrum won't necessarily help coverage at all.

The new spectrum is about offering high-speed data and beefing up network capacity.

Spectrum licenses only grant the right to broadcast on a certain radio frequency in a certain area. T-Mobile already has that (in the PCS band) in most places.

What you need for more coverage are more towers in more locations. Each new tower takes time (at least 1-2 years) and money ($250,000).
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Protege

Aug 23, 2006, 1:43 PM
From what I understand, T-Mobile is already expanding their coverage... adding many cell sites since last year...
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Rich Brome

Aug 23, 2006, 1:47 PM
Yes, that's certainly true.

I'm not saying T-Mobile is not adding towers and improving coverage, just that this new spectrum is mostly independent of that.
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nextel18

Aug 23, 2006, 1:52 PM
The good thing about acquiring new spectrum is that you can put it on the network as many people know, but more importantly, you can add this new 3G spectrum to enhance both your capacity (even coverage), and product portfolio. This will definitely help T-mobile with their needs to grow to deploy 3G devices, and increase their coverage and most importantly their capacity.
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mingkee

Aug 23, 2006, 10:10 PM
it's been a while
ppls from other services laugh that T-mobile has no 3G
it's about time T-Mobile to launch 3G
equipment and devices are a lot cheaper and more reliable than couple years ago
T-Mobile also can lease these license to regional services for their 3g service as well (Dobson, I.Wireless, Unicel, Suncom, Centennial)
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nextel18

Sep 22, 2006, 10:26 AM
Well they can’t launch 3G services until they have 3G spectrum. (I mean T-mobile.)
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terryjohnson16

Aug 26, 2006, 11:00 PM
But, the new 700MHz spectrum auction that should be available in either 2008 or 2009, will help T-Mobile coverage right, since it will be a competition to Cingular and Verizon's 850MHz network? I just wonder when we will see the new phones with the new bands for T-Mobile for this auction once they officially win.
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nextel18

Aug 23, 2006, 1:48 PM
Well, they are adding many cell sites per year.

In 2005, they put up more than 3,500 cell sites.

So far in 2006 they put up, 1,600 cell sites.


Now they just need the spectrum (3G) to expand their product line, capacity and coverage.

Spectrum will be put on those towers.
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MrBlackMage

Aug 23, 2006, 2:01 PM
I appreciate the info, guys. 🤭 I got spectrum and coverage seriously confused. So.. i'm guessing that their coverage in my area won't improve in the near future, since its been the same for the past year. 😢
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nextel18

Aug 23, 2006, 2:59 PM
Well they kind of go hand in hand to some degree, because without spectrum you cannot grow, but without putting more towers your coverage cant increase. The most important thing about spectrum is that it increases capacity, which in reality increases coverage in a given area because it allows for more users onto a single tower. Another important situation is that with the spectrum you can deploy more services to the customers at a lower cost per bit and per min.
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MrBlackMage

Aug 23, 2006, 3:21 PM
nextel18 said:
Another important situation is that with the spectrum you can deploy more services to the customers at a lower cost per bit and per min.


let me see if i can put this into terms that even I can understand. let's say u have two hotels of the same quality. One has 200 rooms and the other has 1500 rooms. both of these hotels have 180 rooms occupied. so.. the cost to rent one of the remaining rooms in the smaller hotel is going to be waaay more expensive than it would be to rent one of the remaining rooms in the larger hotel because of the difference in available space, right? so its the same thing with data services taking up room on the spectrum, correct?
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nextel18

Aug 23, 2006, 4:16 PM
With your hotel analogy that would be correct.

Data and Voice take up a lot of bandwidth on the spectrum and that is why it is difficult for the carriers to do it upon one spectrum band unless they have surplus of that spectrum.

It is all about capacity and spectrum. (Along with towers)

I think the appropriate needs for data is for 15 MHz and higher (in every market). (And that is just data especially 3G services) Some of these carriers like T-mobile just frankly don’t have enough to do both voice and 3G data services and that is why they are aggressively trying to acquire this amount of spectrum.

Now, if they have an access of 30 MHz+ (in every market) they would be very strong with both voice and data to allow for more capa...
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mingkee

Aug 23, 2006, 10:19 PM
you may get better 3g coverage, but you need to get new devices to get this profit, however (buy it from T-Mobile, hopefully there'll be some 3g devices supports AWS band in the future (or quad-band 3g devices)
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mingkee

Aug 23, 2006, 9:57 PM
just a short note
these AWS licenses are supposed to use with HSDPA for T-Mobile, new device required (luckily, 3g devices are a lot cheaper now, we can expect a low end 3g phones will be around $199 without contract)
with these 3g license, T-Mobile will open up new markets that never had them with GSM: Carolinas, Puerto Rico
another profit of 3g internet: you can make and receive calls when internet is active (like DSL on phone line)
also, you can do video conference on future version of MSN, AIM, Yahoo, SkypeOut to 3g, even through some configuration, you can use the IM above + webcam + 3g to dial back home to "monitor" the security
T-Mobile currently holds 100+ CMA A Block (20MHz), some Block B or C (10MHz), and 9 regions REAGs (Bloc...
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