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So... are these dual mode phones for the Nextel accounts or the Sprint accounts?

SprintPCSGuy

Jul 4, 2006, 12:58 AM
If I am a Sprint CDMA customer, can I buy this phone and activate it on my account? Or is it for Nextel customers only? Also... iDEN phones use SIM cards. Will the hybrid phones use them as well?
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icanbeatali

Jul 4, 2006, 9:00 AM
you need to change your perception and it will make more sense to you. There are only Sprint customers on different networks. Nothing keeps you from going cross platform as often as you would like besides the effort and headache it might cause you. So ANYONE can have this phone. I'm not sure about SIM cards, I think it will have them for PT but I may be wrong.
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scottmbolt

Jul 4, 2006, 9:34 AM
but the original is a good question. New Nextel phones still say "nextel" on them ... so will this one? or will it say Sextel? or nexprint? or both names? 🤣 😉 😡 😛 👿 😛 🤨 😳

its so nuts
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icanbeatali

Jul 4, 2006, 9:45 AM
It will say both Sprint and Nextel on it. The new Nextel phones have Sprint on the front and the inside, and Nextel on the back where it has always said Nextel. Keep in mind... Nextel is a "product line" now.
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renardlee

Jul 4, 2006, 11:17 PM
sextel 🤣
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OSpanky4

Jul 4, 2006, 11:48 AM
I work for Sprint, and eventually there will be a combined billing platform. That is the real trick for this type of phone. As many know with QChat coming out sometime next year Nextel will eventually fade away and the network will be supported for roughly another 5 years. The funny aspect of all of this, is that your phone you might "Chirp" but your voice side of Sprint won't in some areas. Co-existing of towers will not be complete for awhile, so thats another interesting problem with this type of handset.
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icanbeatali

Jul 4, 2006, 5:45 PM
This is true... I made reference to this in another post... the contracts for the two billing companies run through 1Q of 2007 if I'm not mistaken. Then Sprint has to take on the task of moving all the information over into one platform. It should be interesting for those Sprint employees in the trenches... everyone knows that nothing works like it is suposed to the first time around.
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TinyJ316

Jul 4, 2006, 11:23 PM
apparently you can't go back and forth as you would like very easily... I tried to switch my nextel service to sprint service, and they wanted me to pay ETF, activation, and a deposit (which i didn't have to pay for my nextel phone)...

plus, in some markets the merger still hasn't gone through all the way (central michigan)
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icanbeatali

Jul 4, 2006, 11:29 PM
you are refering to markets covered by Nextel Partners. That was an affiliate of Nextel. Sprint closed on the purchase of Nextel Partners late last month. Any differences will be changed now. To say the "merger still hasn't gone through yet" doesn't make much sense, since you are talking about a purchase. When it closed last August it was done. I would say go to a Sprint store sometime in the near future and you shouldn't have those same answers because you are now owned by Sprint instead of an affiliate.
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TinyJ316

Jul 4, 2006, 11:36 PM
I would, however there are no sprint stores within 30 miles from where I live...only affiliates.

and you're right, I phrased it wrong...its the anticompetition clause thats causing some markets to still be separate.
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icanbeatali

Jul 4, 2006, 11:42 PM
that would be right. the anti-compete clauses were mainly a problem because of Nextel Partners. Sprints affiliates were more "apart of Sprint" compared to Nextel Partners. Nextel gave them ALOT of power. anywho... they now belong to Sprint and so do most of the affliates Sprint had. After the transactions that closed this last month Sprint has 4 affiliates left which they will purchase by the end of the year most likely.
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TinyJ316

Jul 4, 2006, 11:50 PM
all of that aside, i wonder why all the fees to switch over to sprint service? its not terminating, so there should be no ETF (its more of a migration like AWS/Cingy) and no credit (the billing should be on the same system...but then again, who knows...) I can understand the activation, i suppose, but still...
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icanbeatali

Jul 4, 2006, 11:55 PM
well.... if you were a Nextel Partner's subscriber then you had to pay a cancel fee because "they" lost a customer (same reason for the deposit)... now you shouldn't have that problem. Sprint also has a department they created for employees to call in and get deposits waived for cross platform customers. However there are still 2 billing systems... at least for a little while longer. They just found ways to get around that hurdle.
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TinyJ316

Jul 5, 2006, 7:10 AM
well, i tried doing this on friday... and they still wanted to charge me...

do you think that if i were to order online that they would charge me?
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nextel18

Jul 5, 2006, 8:36 AM
Are you talking about being in a Nextel Partners area and trying to migrate over to Sprint or Nextel? If yes, you have to wait if you want to do it for free because there has been no word if Nextel Partners will adapt the main policy of the parent. I will keep the forum informed though, because I have to do it with others too.

If you did it online, it still goes through the database so I would say that you would be charged. Just wait.
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icanbeatali

Jul 5, 2006, 2:08 PM
You might still want to wait for a little bit longer. The M&Ps will definately change, and things such as ETF and Deposits should be the first things to fall in line since that is a database issue. Sprint has already extended mobile to mobile to Partner's old customers now. The rest should come shortly...
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nextel18

Jul 5, 2006, 2:19 PM
Ya. People should be very patient as mergers of affiliates start to happen and close. It wont happen overnight that they will seek the same benefits that both Sprint and Nextel customers get.
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fonesrsexy

Jul 5, 2006, 2:32 PM
Blah blah blah blah blah....how fun it is that we all just repeat the same things over and over and over again....
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nextel18

Jul 5, 2006, 2:38 PM
Obviously you dont have any input so let the big boys speak. 😎
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icanbeatali

Jul 5, 2006, 9:32 PM
I second that motion... 😲
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nextel18

Jul 6, 2006, 5:44 AM
The motion has been passed!! woohoo

🤣
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nextel18

Jul 5, 2006, 8:33 AM
Well, you can, but if you are in an affiliate area especially in a Nextel Partners area it will be difficult and yes you are subject to pay all the necessary fees since they are really 2 separate companies, prior to the buyout of Partners.

Some markets the merger hasn’t gone through? What does that mean? Sprint-Nextel and Sprint-Nextel Partners are completed and closed. Do you mean the other affiliates? Or do you mean about integration or implementation?
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TinyJ316

Jul 5, 2006, 8:51 AM
I mean that in my area (central michigan) Nextel and Sprint stores are still competition for one another. I can't walk into any sprint store here (save radio shack) and buy a nextel phone, and vice versa. They won't even do any in-store CS for the "competition's" product.
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nextel18

Jul 5, 2006, 9:03 AM
I would doubt that, however, if you are in an area with an affiliate that hasn’t been bought out yet, then that situation that you are describing should still happen, but otherwise it shouldn’t.

If those are legacy Sprint and legacy Nextel stores, that should not be happening since the merger was closed a while ago.
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TinyJ316

Jul 5, 2006, 9:06 AM
its happening... so i don't know... maybe its something sprexel should look into
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nextel18

Jul 5, 2006, 9:38 AM
Perhaps shooting the regional director or mentioned it to them would be better so they would know, because there is no reason why that should be going on since they are one company now. That would be true after the merger was announced because by rules they are supposed to operate as separate entities until it has been closed. Also that would be true if they were affiliates that haven’t been bought out yet.
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icanbeatali

Jul 5, 2006, 2:00 PM
Nextel Partners stores were just aquired at the end of last month. The division might still be visably there for a while as of yet, but soon enough that stuff will start melting together. Sprint has said that they are not in a rush to integrate Partner stores the way legacy Nextel stores were done. Look for them to be ran separately for a good little time as far as chain of commands. Hopefully the in store experience will start changing sooner than the behind the scenes portions. Either way the methods and proceedures will fall in line sooner than later.
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nextel18

Jul 5, 2006, 2:08 PM
I know about Nextel Partners so you don’t have to tell me, and I already explained to him about the affiliate situation but he didn’t really specify, at least I don’t remember, if they were legacy stores or not that were involved.
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icanbeatali

Jul 5, 2006, 2:14 PM
I was more talking to him than you. This is also going to be more for him than you... but the north half of Michigan is still owned by affiliates, so its going to depend on where you are in Michigan. If you give more specifics... such as metro area I could give better information.
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nextel18

Jul 5, 2006, 2:17 PM
He didn’t really elaborate on his area if affiliates owned some of the areas or legacy did so I thought it was legacy owned, which I guess now you told it was affiliated owned.

That would make sense for affiliates but I am sure it wouldn’t really be Partners because since the merger was closed now they don’t have any non-competitive clause anymore.
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icanbeatali

Jul 5, 2006, 2:23 PM
you are right, but transactions closing and communication getting downstream are two different things as you well know.
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nextel18

Jul 5, 2006, 2:30 PM
Oh very true, but as soon as it is closed those clauses go away because they are absorbed into the daddy, but the policies wont change until upper management changes it.

I should have asked him to be more thorough but oh well, let us hope he is reading these posts.
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sprintwtex

Jul 6, 2006, 1:45 PM
that is absolutely incorrect. upper management has nothing to do with anything here. for the first few months after the buyout occurred, sprint| |nextel operated as 2 different companies and have been slowly becoming more aligned. as for "clauses" or whatever...affiliate and partner and legacy contracts are not immediately "absorbed into the daddy." that's pretty much throwing a contract out the window, isn't it? i recommend taking a contracts class. save paying millions in breech of contract fees, there's no way for affiliate contracts to be "absorbed." for example: west texas is a FORMER alamosa market. the alamosa buyout was completed in january. however, the alamosa contracts didn't expire until the end of june. thus, the sprint corpo...
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nextel18

Jul 6, 2006, 5:25 PM
Actually it is 100% correct. The contracts are absorbed into daddy but after sometime. Remember when it says in writting and other means, that Nextel and Sprint will honor existing contracts. I didnt say that it would take place immediately and everything has to deal with upper managment since it the plans are developed by them and then executed by the lower people.


🤣 😎
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sprintwtex

Jul 6, 2006, 7:08 PM
"Oh very true, but as soon as it is closed those clauses go away because they are absorbed into the daddy"

do you even read what you write? that's completely contradictory to what you wrote not 24 hours previous.

"Remember when it says in writting and other means, that Nextel and Sprint will honor existing contracts."

when things are put into "writting" and signed...these things are called contracts. contracts cannot be broken, or like "upper management" would say, "breeched," without millions of dollars in penalties. they wouldn't have put anything in the new contracts about honoring old contracts because they didn't have to. contracts are. from beginning to end.

now. to say something i've been meaning to say for a while: you ...
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nextel18

Jul 6, 2006, 7:19 PM
You are not understanding the simple terms of which i am talking about. The clauses are regarding the affiliates and the daddy while the contracts have to do with rate plans.

I love your replies becuase it shows how either 1. dumb and naive you are or 2. immature you are. So with that said, I am putting you on the wonderful ignore list. Lastly, my information is directly from many sources inside the company who are at the top of the food chain.

It is people like you who dont contribute to these forums with your responses and people like me to fill in those gaps. (Large ones)
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icanbeatali

Jul 6, 2006, 9:39 PM
I just wish that everyone was as smart as me... then we wouldnt have these little tiffs in here. That is all... 🤣
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nextel18

Jul 7, 2006, 5:43 AM
Ha-ha. Not many people can be like you because you are the best! You beat the Great Ali!
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sprintwtex

Jul 7, 2006, 5:12 PM
not to continue this or anything but the contracts have to do with everything involved, from inventory to length of vesting. this is why we had to drop all of our inventory, return it, then get completely new inventory under the new corporate contracts. if you're so "inside" you'd know that. and i'm really glad you're so above name-calling and immaturinty. it really makes me swell with pride that there's finally someone out there who is over calling someone dumb and naive. hypocracy is a fascinating thing, isn't it?

also, if you have to go out of your way to tell people how "very intellectual" you are regarding the wireless industry...well, i guess we can assume that modesty is not one of your strong points.
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nextel18

Jul 5, 2006, 8:29 AM
It is hinted for Nextel users, which is all i will say.
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sprintwtex

Jul 6, 2006, 1:54 PM
i think you've said too much! people might see the front of the phone on the news brief and see that it CLEARLY SAYS NEXTEL. seriously... it's you're duty to keep that hush hush.
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nextel18

Jul 6, 2006, 5:26 PM
I said I wouldnt go into who is it for. (for which account)
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