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Protege

Jun 23, 2006, 1:32 PM
Why doesnt Cingular any unlimited text plan??? These prices are not competetive IMO...
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macfreak

Jun 23, 2006, 2:29 PM
lousy deal.
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gjh1978

Jun 23, 2006, 2:42 PM
So lousy that customers keep paying for them without having an unlimited plan, so why should Cingular offer one if they don't need to??? If customers are going to keep buying the messaging packages as is, then so be it.
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phoneguy806

Jun 26, 2006, 11:59 AM
the plans are better than what they offered in the past, they may not have unlimited but thier services are better
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TradeMark_310

Jun 23, 2006, 3:14 PM
400 for $5, 1000 for $10, unlimited for $15...c'mon now
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Protege

Jun 23, 2006, 7:35 PM
You're right... with TMO you GET MORE!

LOL
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miacol

Jun 25, 2006, 11:12 AM
U might get more data, but no service to go with it ๐Ÿ˜ฒ ......
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anorthrnsoul

Jun 26, 2006, 9:52 AM
Maybe where you live but here it's quite the opposite. Cingular is last in call quality, dropped calls and customer service. To stay on topic, thses messaging plans still aren't competitive, not even with verizon.
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phoneguy806

Jun 26, 2006, 12:00 PM
lol you must live right under a t-mobile tower i think the waves are gettin to your head, lol. cingular clowns on t-mobiles coverage
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PRStateofMind

Jun 26, 2006, 1:48 PM
miacol said:
U might get more data, but no service to go with it ๐Ÿ˜ฒ ......


LOL you got that right. T-Mo's got more holes in their coverage than swiss cheese. Not only that, but when you factor in how cheap the data is, everyone and grandmother uses it. Including the kiddies with their sidekicks. You barely get EDGE or even GRPS speeds at all.
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vaspider

Jun 26, 2006, 5:14 PM
That doesn't even make any sense. How can you not get GPRS speeds? GPRS just means "mobile internet." Further, GSM is not CDMA, more users doesn't appreciably slow data.
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miacol

Jun 27, 2006, 10:53 AM
There are so many people on T-Mobile network in NYC that T-Mobile could not keep up and needed to sign Cingular Roaming agreements. So the majority of the people on the T-Mobile network are actually using Cingular without even knowing it (Wait till the contract runs out and Cingular decides not to resign T-Mobile to use their network). Here is where it get better.

Cingular was smart in cities like NYC you need the 850 overlay to get by the skyscrappers and be able to provide service. That's why the purchased ATT Wireless (remember old Cingular use to run on T-Mobile in the NE). So now if your T-Mobile and have a Quad Based Phone u get good service because Cingular supports it, but if you have a tri-band phone (with no 850), you start ...
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Transient

Jun 23, 2006, 3:49 PM
Competition:

T-Mobile - They have unlimited messaging, but they also have a sad network. As a current T-Mobile customer in Dallas, I fight often with the weakness of the network and I'm planning to switch to Cingular as soon as I can. What's the point of service if I can't maintain a conversation?

Sprint/Nextel - They do 100 messages for $5, 500 for $8 and unlimited for $15. Worse on the bottom end, better on the top end. Network is still mediocre.

Verizon - Verizon is the nearest competitor to Cingular as far as network is concerned. Their messaging prices are substantially worse - 500 messages for $9.99 or 2500 for $20.00 PLUS additional surcharges if you send to non-Verizon customers.

If you're looking purely for messaging and...
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Protege

Jun 23, 2006, 4:29 PM
Verizon IMO has a way more reliable network and I believe it is actually much larger... as far as their text plans... the 9.99 price includes 500 messages and unlimited IN messages so you only use the 500 if other person not on VZW... these include PIX/FLIX/TXT
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Transient

Jun 23, 2006, 4:45 PM
Verizon has roughly 10,000 fewer cell sites than Cingular last I looked it up. Cingular's advertising regarding the independent study that claimed they have the least dropped calls would support that.

I'd rather have more messages with no specified network rather than having to worry about it. Most folks I know aren't using Verizon.
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RShACkSUX

Jun 23, 2006, 5:42 PM
You're right, they have less towers. What you didnt know was, those CDMA towers Verizon employs hold far more calls than Cingulars do. Furthermore, alot of those towers are overlapping. When Cingular bought AT&T, they got all thier towers...even if they had a tower next to another tower. Kind of useless if you ask me. Verizon's network is still stronger and thier text/pix/flix messaging packages are also much more competetive.

Oh and there is no surcharge to send one of those 2500 messages to another carrier. The 2500 package for $20 gives you UNLIMITED VZW-VZW messages, as well as 2500 for any other carrier.
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RUFF1415

Jun 24, 2006, 8:29 PM
RShACkSUX said:
Furthermore, alot of those towers are overlapping. When Cingular bought AT&T, they got all thier towers...even if they had a tower next to another tower. Kind of useless if you ask me.

That was the purpose of network integration. Overlapping towers from each network were decommissioned and relocated in areas that needed better signal or a higher capacity. In a few short months when nationwide integration is complete, no tower on Cingular's network will "overlap" another.
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youareretarded

Jun 23, 2006, 5:48 PM
WHOA! Wait a minute. Don't use Cingular's shady claim to have the least dropped calls. The leading independant research company is SBC -- the parent company of Cingular. That's like saying Bush's wife says he's doing a good job (dont open the door to a political thing here, it was the 1st thing that came to mind). You have to remember that with Verizon the IN messaging is pretty useful -- 50 million subscribers (also dont go into who has more customers, it has nothing to do with this), therefore 50 million chances to get free messages. This is ESPECIALLY useful in family plans where the kids or even the adults txt. Cingular's plan isnt a good deal if you are middle of the road user. One more reason not to join them!
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MoThug666

Jun 23, 2006, 9:34 PM
Actually it was an indipendent company that did the tests. the company that did it is called Telephia, and it was all over the papers. as far as the text goes i agree there should be more free messages amongs companies, but all in all for messaging the only company that has it really good is tmobile. Even though i hate em their rates are the best. I like verizons in messaging, but then again i dont know anyone on verizon so wouldnt work for me.
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RUFF1415

Jun 24, 2006, 8:33 PM
youareretarded said:
WHOA! Wait a minute. Don't use Cingular's shady claim to have the least dropped calls. The leading independant research company is SBC -- the parent company of Cingular. That's like saying Bush's wife says he's doing a good job (dont open the door to a political thing here, it was the 1st thing that came to mind).

What are you talking about?! The independent research company is Telephia, which has no relation to SBC (AT&T). And furthermore, Verizon makes their claim to the most reliable network based upon their own drive tests. Now THAT is like Bush's wife saying he is doing a good job.
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Protege

Jun 23, 2006, 7:34 PM
Where do you get your cell sites info??? do you have a link??or links???


also, that independent study is GARBAGE... IMO, of course...
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RUFF1415

Jun 24, 2006, 8:24 PM
Make that 20,000 fewer towers.
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Protege

Jun 23, 2006, 4:31 PM
It all depends on your area... I've had Cingular... T-Mobile... and now Verizon... I've found all to be really good but Verizon is the best for me in terms of more signal in more places... T-Mobile was pretty good as well as Cingular...
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phonenerd2006

Jun 24, 2006, 12:23 AM
T-Mobile - They have unlimited messaging, but they also have a sad network. As a current T-Mobile customer in Dallas, I fight often with the weakness of the network and I'm planning to switch to Cingular as soon as I can. What's the point of service if I can't maintain a conversation?

the main reason that T-Mobile's network is so "sad" is that they oversell the heck out of it. Way too many people that should have cells are allowed onto T-Mobile. Using 8,000,000 night and weekends and mobile-mobile which kills the network.
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duckbutter

Jun 24, 2006, 9:58 AM
Transient said:

Verizon - PLUS additional surcharges if you send to non-Verizon customers.



๐Ÿ˜ณ Since when?
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otsego

Jun 24, 2006, 1:05 AM
ive been with cingular for ... 6 years.. yeah that sounds right. let me tell you this is welcome news.. dont forget this is BOTH internet AND txt/MMS. its about time the had a decent bundle.. and folks, honestly, $20 for unlimited internet and (pretty much) unlimited messaging is pretty freakin swiit if you use em enough.
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Protege

Jun 24, 2006, 3:02 PM
You know that in 1999 when I signed up to Bellsouth Mobility (now known as Cingular) they had unlimited TXT messaging included for free on plans 39.99 and higher... In fact, I had free unlimited TXT messaging on Cingular as well... I think it was until 2002 that they started charging me and it happened to be in a month I used over 2500 messages... ๐Ÿคจ ... Also, when Rollover first came out... minutes would not expire... then all of a sudden my minutes started expiring... THATS WHY I LEFT THEM... they would change the rules all the time... and I was with them for 6 years..T-Mobile's data plan is still a better deal than Cingular... I was with them as well for a year ....
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TinyJ316

Jun 24, 2006, 6:44 PM
well, if you would read your contract, they have the ability, after your two years, to change their rates... just because you signed a contract 7 years ago, doesn't mean that you get the same prices...

every time you sign a new contract, there are different terms that go along with it. most people don't bother to read the contracts. which is not the provider's fault (beit cingy, vzw, tmob, sprextel).

protege, stop bitching.. plain and simple... i would hope that you're educated enough to read a contract and terms of service....but apparently not, since you're complaining about something that you would have known about if you read your contract.
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Protege

Jun 25, 2006, 12:42 AM
I understand that they have the right to change these things... but the fact of the matter is their changes were not working out for me and that is why I left... so thank you for your input TINY J...

have a nice day
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TinyJ316

Jun 25, 2006, 3:35 AM
well, the way your comment was phrased, you were claiming that you were victimized. i was merely saying that you weren't
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TinyJ316

Jun 24, 2006, 6:55 PM
you mean to tell me that you're going to be sending that many messages??!?

lets break that down the number of messages per day... lets say on average a person is awake from 7 am to 12am, give or take an hour or two either way... thats 17 hours in a day. multiply that by 30 days is 510 hours per month that a person is awake and texting. thats roughly 6 messages per hour that you can send or recieve. I would hope to god that you don't text message every hour...that you're productive enough to do something other that txting with your day.

when i had my employee line through cingy, i got unlimited text messages, and the most txts i had in a month were 3500...and thats only because my gf at the time didn't have the internet and her speak...
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Protege

Jun 25, 2006, 12:45 AM
Well some ppl cant get online at work so they get on MOBILE IM apps sucs as AIM, YAHOO, ETC...

IMs are counted as text messages and IM conversations are usually quicker than regular text messaging so believe me your text messages can waste in no time... even w/out being online for that long...
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TinyJ316

Jun 25, 2006, 3:40 AM
i know that each IM message counts as a text, however, my point was, if you go over 3000 texts per month, that you should start using your minutes as opposed to texting...

also, while mobile IM programs are a good alternative while you're at work, if someone wants to have a detailed conversation with you, maybe you should go to the restroom and call that person, as opposed to burning through all your texts...

perhaps i'm just being a stick in the mud here, but if something is that important, i'd just as soon talk to someone, rather than burning thought all those extra texts... granted, i go through about 2000 texts per month, most of them are split between 10 different people, most of which are things like "hunny, bring milk home" or "...
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miacol

Jun 26, 2006, 11:45 AM
To stay in Topic, I just reviewed the plans again, Media Net with 5 Megs Internet and 1000 messages is 14.99, with 1 Meg Internet and 400 messages it's 9.99. Here is the link:

https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net_purchase »

Media Max 29.99 is 1000, unlimted Web and unlimited Cingular Video and Media Max 19.99 is 200 messages, unlimited web, and unlimited video. Here is the link:

https://www.cingular.com/media/cingular_video_purchase »

Seems like an overall sweet deal.
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