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Disappointed.

Slammer

Apr 10, 2015, 10:09 PM
---"Some may be put off by the locked-in battery and lack of memory card, but these are acceptable trade-offs to me to gain such an attractive phone."---

Do people not hear what they're saying when comments are made like this?

So being pretty is more important than having flexibility and control over your own device?

It's bad enough we have had to deal with locked down handsets where jailbreaking and rooting has to be performed in order to get the most out of a phone you pay good money for. Now we have to deal with even more control from the industry by just accepting the the notion to eliminate key components?

Samsung creates an ad to promote the new phones and widely distrubutes these ads in mass social media sites. The negat...
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netboy

Apr 11, 2015, 7:15 AM
like many have said this before.
"get over it ! "
apple have been doing this since iphone1 with no removable battery and no microSD slot.
and they (apple) "claim" they selling millionS.
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NightRider

Apr 11, 2015, 10:41 AM
I agree with you Sir
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Slammer

Apr 11, 2015, 11:39 AM
Well Netboy,

I see you have changed your opinion of Apple. You have been very negative in regards to Apple and its practices. Now Samsung does the same thing to gain profits by curbing manufacturing costs and charge more for a product, and you suddenly become a proponent of a concurrent direction?

You're not being hypocritical; are you?

John B.
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netboy

Apr 13, 2015, 7:57 AM
having removable battery and MicroSD slot is nice, but i can live without it. Galaxy S6 Edge in gold is hot, looks like made of chrome plus with LoopPay, it works at 90% of retailers. (So which 10% of retailers dont work? )
It' like a girl, i dont care if she is dumb as long as she is cute, that is all i care. haha
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Zpike

Apr 13, 2015, 2:41 PM
We should all drop our preferences and just buy what were told to buy because if a company can sell million of something, those who want something different are obviously wrong. Thanks for explaining how ignorant we all are.
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netboy

Apr 13, 2015, 3:18 PM
My preference is chrome but they dont make phones in chrome anymore. (Nokia used to make phone in chrome like 10 years ago.) It' not about dropping your preferences, there is no other option, you either take what they give you or leave it.
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Slammer

Apr 13, 2015, 4:06 PM
---"It' not about dropping your preferences, there is no other option, you either take what they give you or leave it."---

You're playing right into what the industry wants and you're ok with this reasoning? This is the exact argument that I'm trying very hard to express. Eric claims the industry has been going this way for awhile. For how long of awhile? I peg it at when Apple introduced the iphone. Since Apple has been commanding super high profits on the omissions of removable batteries and sd cards with only a 13% world marketshare, why should Samsung care about the those that want these things when it can follow Apple's lead?

I can't support Samsung in this direction and I won't purchase either one of its newest Galaxies. I don'...
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Zpike

Apr 13, 2015, 4:39 PM
I agree. Premium phones should be "PREMIUM". And that doesn't mean making them out of glass. I'm pretty sure that when someone buys premium wheels for their car those aren't made out of glass either. Premium has ALWAYS meant best possible performance, SO, if I'm not getting best possible performance, the device isn't premium. You want to make it flashy and seal it all up, then put crap hardware inside and sell it for $20. Then people who ONLY care what it looks like can get a deal, and people who want performance can get something for their money. Everyone wins.
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The Victor

Apr 13, 2015, 5:14 PM
Premium obviously doesnt mean having an accessible battery or an SD card slot.

Premium is going to be the build and the performance, not necessarily how it looks. If you recall the Galaxy Mega a few years back it had the look of a premium device but clearly wasnt.
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Slammer

Apr 13, 2015, 7:30 PM
The word "Premium build" was coined within the wireless industry by Steve Jobs as a marketing tool. However, "Premium" is subjective.

I happen to think that only the cheaper phones should be carrier or manufacturer locked. Why should a "Premium" phone be jail broken or rooted to make it perform to optimal standards?

My view is that of you are against carriers locking down a $900 phone, you should equally be upset that flexibility is also being taken away.

I mean seriously here. You're paying good money on a phone and you can't do this or that?

We expect to out grow cheaper phones,. But, we also expect the expensive phones to grow with us and allow us to modify at our discretion without dictation or fear of voiding warranties....
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The Victor

Apr 14, 2015, 9:32 AM
Then add insurance and then repairs and dedictibles not covered by insurance, you are paying well over $1400 during a two year contract for something that was paid free and clear roughly 12 months into your contract.



where in the world did you get that number, because ive worked tech support and warranty for many years and it comes no where near that prive even for 2 years.

Even if you pay full price for your phone which lets just say thats $900 the only way you reach that number if you have to do multiple insurance claims, and thats meaning your either outside that initaial 1 year warranty or you just dont take of your phone. And any type of battery, charger, or any other accessories as such are covered under that same war...
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Slammer

Apr 14, 2015, 4:26 PM
Out of warranty is a different story than under warranty, is it not? It is the out of warranty service that makes the profit world go around.

The carrier most likely pays double of manufacture cost. Far below retail. The carrier charges the customer full retail.

This is the figure for a 2 year expenditure on phone and insurance with only one claim out of warranty.

$900.00 phone.
$240.00 insurance
$200.00 deductible.
$100.50 taxes

$1440.50.

John B.
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Zpike

Apr 13, 2015, 11:27 PM
>>Premium obviously doesnt mean having an accessible battery or an SD card slot.

Ummmmm... yes, it does.

>>Premium is going to be the build and the performance

Amen to that brother.

>>not necessarily how it looks

Double Amen.

>> If you recall the Galaxy Mega a few years back it had the look of a premium device but clearly wasnt.

The mega had neither the looks, feel, specs, nor price tag of a premium device. It was just big. Big doesn't necessarily mean premium.
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The Victor

Apr 14, 2015, 9:14 AM
Ok so with that being said any device that has an accessible battery and/or SD card slot is a premium device?

As far as the Galaxy Mega specs obviously werent there, the feel of it was identical to any other galaxy device at the time only bigger and obviously didnt have the same price tag but I wasnt saying it did, just that it had the appearance
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Slammer

Apr 14, 2015, 8:06 PM
---"Ok so with that being said any device that has an accessible battery and/or SD card slot is a premium device?"---

No. But, neither does having a faster onboard memory or better aesthetics. What makes a device premium is being universally capable. Allowing as many functions, options and performance as possible to coexist with one another in an aesthetically pleasing device whether we all need them or not.

Those that don't, simply don't use them, those that do, these things are there.

John B.
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The Victor

Apr 15, 2015, 10:22 AM
No. But, neither does having a faster onboard memory or better aesthetics. What makes a device premium is being universally capable. Allowing as many functions, options and performance as possible to coexist with one another in an aesthetically pleasing device whether we all need them or not.

so going by what you just said which phone(s) are a premium device other than previous samsung devices?

By going what your saying now Sasuung is no longer a premium device, nor is Apple, HTC, Motorola, etc
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Zpike

Apr 20, 2015, 10:42 AM
>>By going what your saying now Sasuung is no longer a premium device, nor is Apple, HTC, Motorola, etc

Premium is, sadly, a subjective word. For many people those devices may be premium. In my opinion they are not. Hopefully the Note 5 will be premium. If not, I'll look to LG. Or perhaps by then Asus will have a premium device in the US.
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Zpike

Apr 20, 2015, 10:39 AM
>>Ok so with that being said any device that has an accessible battery and/or SD card slot is a premium device?

No. If someone was selling a premium automobile that didn't have air conditioning, I'd be the first to pipe up and say the car wasn't premium. However, I wouldn't go calling a Pinto premium just because it has this feature. But the fact remains that premium automobiles should have air conditioning.
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Zpike

Apr 13, 2015, 4:53 PM
>>My preference is chrome but they don't make phones in chrome anymore. (Nokia used to make phone in chrome like 10 years ago.)

1. Chrome OS came out in 2009. That wasn't 10 years ago.

2. I'm not aware that there was ever a phone running Chrome. Could you specify the model? As a tech fanatic, I'd be interested in seeing it.
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netboy

Apr 14, 2015, 8:55 AM
sorry, i didnt mean Chrome OS.
i mean chrome, like chrome wheels.
i just love chrome, it looks so manly. haha
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Zpike

Apr 20, 2015, 10:51 AM
I'm pretty sure I can get you one of these for $399.99. Let me know what you think.

http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=63 »
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JJinNYC

Apr 11, 2015, 12:23 PM
Slammer said:


It's very concerning that tech sites and its editors have fallen for compromise.

John B.


I agree but the entire industry has been falling for compromise for years. It's called the iPhone.
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Slammer

Apr 11, 2015, 6:25 PM
Being on sites like this, I realize I will be subjected to opposing views on this.

However, I am also a consumer. In spite of people saying that the majority of people are buying into sealed batteries and no sd cards, paints an illusion.

Since polls in and out of tech sites have proved that majority prefer removable batteries and sd cards, it is also understood that people are buying anyways because they feel their choices have become far less when it comes to flagship offerings.

This means the industry is winning due to consumer surrender.

John B.
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netboy

Apr 14, 2015, 9:05 AM
you gain some, and you lose some.
why i like galaxy s6 edge ?
it looks hot, and with that s6 edge "clear view" cover, it makes the phone really shinny. Smile
plus with loopPay, it works at 90% of retailers.
i can live without microSD slot and removeable battery.
phone gettting full ? just upload it to the cloud.
base model is 32GB, that' already alot.
running out battery? just turn on Ultra Power saving mode, i just need a phone that last for 8 hours during work hours.
or get a battery pak to charge it.
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dreames

Apr 14, 2015, 12:53 PM
netboy said:

i can live without microSD slot and removeable battery.
phone gettting full ? just upload it to the cloud.


the problem with 'CLOUDs' is the data streaming.... now we have to pay extra for unlimited high speed because of the cap issue....

I love the S6, the way it looks... the way it looks at me...
BUT I want the slot!
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Slammer

Apr 14, 2015, 3:31 PM
---"you gain some, and you lose some.
why i like galaxy s6 edge ?
it looks hot, and with that s6 edge "clear view" cover, it makes the phone really shinny."---

Well, of anything proves my point about ignoring the virtues of what a premium device should be, you have just become the top, prime example of shallow reasoning. If Samsung stuck nothing in the phone, you would still buy it because it is shiny and sparkly.

You seem to put a lot of value on sizzle but, are willing to throw away the steak.

John B.
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Doom Wolf

Apr 14, 2015, 4:25 PM
+1 I'm with you, John B.
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The Victor

Apr 14, 2015, 11:22 PM
I'm with you. If that's your reason your clearly getting wasting your money go find a basic device and throw your money at that

I hope this guy wasn't serious
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Zpike

Apr 20, 2015, 10:46 AM
How about a really slick looking credit card? That ought to cover most of your bases. You can get a 10 yr old cell phone for the rest.
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Eric M. Zeman

Apr 11, 2015, 2:03 PM
John - Thanks for sharing your opinion. As far as I am concerned, portable battery packs are FAR more convenient to use than actual swappable batteries. They are very inexpensive compared to replacement batteries. The standard 2,200mAh rechargeable battery pack is under $20. These can fully charge most phones and use standard USB cables. Larger ones don't cost that much more. When on the road, I have an 8,700mAh pack that can recharge two phones and a tablet. You can't tell me carrying three replacement batteries is easier or less of a hassle.

With respect to storage, well, that's why Samsung and others sell 64GB and 128GB versions of their phones. I gave up on internal storage a long, long time ago in favor of the cloud. Google and Micr...
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thejonnotjohn

Apr 11, 2015, 2:40 PM
Very well said Eric.
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Slammer

Apr 11, 2015, 5:07 PM
---"The industry has been headed this way for a long time. If you think changeable batteries and microSD cards are absolutely necessary for your phone, there are still plenty of options out there. Personally, I don't need them and I don't think I've compromised on anything."---

But, this is my bone of contention. Telling me to just purchase another phone, should not be an option when you've been enjoying what it had been offering. You and I should be able to enjoy the very same phone regardless of our needs or wants. You may not have to compromise, but why should I? If you don't need the options, simply ignore them. Being in your position, I'm sure you don't hold onto a phone more than a few months anyway. I have to hold onto my phones fo...
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PhoneMaster

Apr 12, 2015, 8:19 AM
Personally I would be okay with no SD slot in a device if one was charged a reasonable price for additional built in memory. However, charging $100 for 32 additional gigs of memory is a complete ripoff.
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Zpike

Apr 13, 2015, 2:50 PM
>> You can't tell me carrying three replacement batteries is easier or less of a hassle.

Actually it IS more of a hassle. You have to wait for that battery to recharge. With a removable battery, you can pop a new one in and be back up and running in a matter of seconds. How can your huge battery brick possibly be more convenient than that?

>> It's all in the cloud, stored mostly for free.

What happens when I don't have an internet connection? What happens when my cloud storage provider of choice gets hacked? Both of those things are inevitable with the cloud.

Also, If I have a large file I want to transfer to another device, all I have to do is pop the sd card out of one device and into another. The cloud will NEVER be faster t...
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saxamoney

Apr 11, 2015, 4:47 PM
Unfortunately, you don't represent the majority of consumers. The #1 complaint in the past for Samsung was Design. This is not only published by Samsung, but many other sources and review sites.

Secondly, Cloud isn't perfected yet? Cloud service is better than it's ever been. Tell me in technical terms why you think that the security sucks. I'm not finding many else saying this. While the notion of using Microsoft One Drive for backup is new to Samsung, consumers can have much more peace of mind knowing their info is backed up and not relying on the failure of the SD card or internal memory.

Regarding the battery, while the battery is not user replacable, it is tech replaceable. And while the battery may be one of the higher fail rate ...
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Slammer

Apr 11, 2015, 5:32 PM
Complaints about the design, were specifically in regards to the materials used for the body. Show me where these complaints were directed at having removable batteries and SD cards. The only ones that seem to be vocal on this are the gaming individual segment of users. This puts them in the minority. Are you one of these individuals? Frankly, it is the gamers that should be the most vocal in keeping removable batteries relevant due to the load it puts on the battery. Constant charging and discharging is horrible. Isn't this one of the improper ways of taking care of the battery that you speak of? I claim the battery makes up for 35-40% of "natural" device failures. If you never drop your phone, you will still have potential to the second hi...
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kpeterk

Apr 11, 2015, 8:27 PM
John - I totally agree with you. I'm hanging onto my Note because of the SD slot and removable battery. The current battery technology we use in cell phones all have limited recharge cycles. Eventually the battery degrades and holds less and less of a charge. I really don't understand why people don't care about that. Would you rather send your device into the manufacturer when your battery starts to degrade or just swap it out yourself? It's really all about profit. Samsung is following Apple's footsteps to make as much profit as they can by charging an extra $100 for each 32gb of memory that you want in their phones - and then they seal the battery in so you can't remove it or you void the warranty if you do. They want to make a profit on ...
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Slammer

Apr 11, 2015, 10:52 PM
Thank you for supporting my views. The views I share are not a shot from the hip. While I see advantages to the elimination of these two options, they are limited.

It is easier to accept when something is added that is not necessarily needed as opposed to things that are taken away that were needed.

As knowledgeable as some techs on these sites are, it amazes me that an item that has always been the weakest link in any device with high fail rate, suddenly becomes unimportant and taken for granted when something looks pretty. The battery hasn't changed. It has been glazed over with aesthetics to keep the battery out of sight, out of mind. It's that simple and for self proclaimed techs to ignore the real intent of these corporations, ...
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Brad K

Apr 13, 2015, 4:21 PM
I have always been a fan of removable battery and memory cards and am sad to see Samsung go away from them. I can't speak so much to why the non removable battery but the non removable memory cards was inevitable. Too many people buy cheap memory cards that become corrupted and lose all their data. When that happens do you think the cheap memory card gets all it's share of the blame? No way. The customer ends up with a bad opinion of Samsung because they don't know the difference, they just know they had pictures in their phone before and now their gone.

So sure I bet a majority of people if polled would say that they should keep removable memory. However, I bet many of those same people have, at the same time, blamed Samsung for th...
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The Victor

Apr 13, 2015, 5:17 PM
any idea if the S6 will be sealed as well or is it just the S6 Edge
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Slammer

Apr 13, 2015, 7:57 PM
---"So sure I bet a majority of people if polled would say that they should keep removable memory. However, I bet many of those same people have, at the same time, blamed Samsung for their lost data due to a bad memory card."---

Since it is definitely proven that polls favor the two options, very few would wish they had something that they can complain about. Augmentation is key to consumer control. Whether you need or want it, is not the bone of contention. The goal is to keep the control in the consumer's hands and out of the manufacturers or carrier pockets.

Also, internal memory can fragment just as easily as SD cards. Stay away from porn and watch what you down load. I've had the same SD card that I was able to carry over to my l...
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allbeit

Apr 13, 2015, 8:37 PM
I can't disagree with anything John has said on this topic. There is simply nothing bad about offering the options even if "everyone" doesn't need them. I prefer to be able to replace my own battery when the original inevitably fails and I also like the idea of being able to move apps and their caches to the SD card if I see a need to. I will not buy a phone that doesn't offer those options. If I have to go dig up my old HTC Evo 3D, then I'll do that. At least I felt like I had some control over that phone...... Well... Sometimes.
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The Victor

Apr 14, 2015, 9:55 AM
I agree with a lot of the things he has to say as well but its the way the market is heading

As its been mentioned before people ae wanting a better build quality where to do that there are limitations for what they can do, the main one being in most cases an inaccessible battery

he SD card is the thing i couldnt care less about, wouldnt use it even if my phone had it, even with some of the newer ones theyre really fragile and easily compromised as they always will be.

If i still had one id rather actually use an external hardrive or the cloud works just as well.
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allbeit

Apr 14, 2015, 12:35 PM
"....even with some of the newer ones theyre really fragile and easily compromised as they always will be"

Not sure what that means. They are no more fragile than any other component of the phone and it has always been possible to encrypt the SD card natively via the operating system (at least since Froyo). I have every SD card since I started using smartphones 5 years ago. Never had one break or fail. They do eventually, but if anything they are more durable than the phone itself in some instances. I have had several phones fail in one way or another. Still have every SD card and none of them have failed yet. Not saying they won't ever. Just saying they don't necessarily represent a link any weaker than anything else in a smartphone.

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Slammer

Apr 14, 2015, 7:39 PM
---"If i still had one id rather actually use an external hardrive or the cloud works just as well."---

There's absolutely nothing wrong at all with this. I love your choice to utilize what's in front of you. It is this flexibility that encompasses the consumer experience. Just as though I have access to the cloud, I prefer the SD card. A premium phone should allow both us to enjoy it without either one of us sacrificing.

John B.
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The Victor

Apr 15, 2015, 10:47 AM
right it would be great to have both options I jus don believe it should be a deal breaker.

Its just with my personal experience as well as experience within the wireless tech support industry i just cant trust SD cards, ive had too many fail on me and havve had to assist others with it too many times to put that kind of faith in them

theyre great when it comes to needing to do a factory reset on a phone but I just cant trust them for much more
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Slammer

Apr 16, 2015, 5:25 PM
Not to sound offensive here but, you feel it shouldn't be a deal breaker because you simply don't care for the same options as I do? What if the shoe was on the other foot? Let's say they did away with onboard memory to concentrate on SD cards? Knowing your experience with sd cards, how would you feel?

I personally feel the SD card has saved my butt more times than I can count fingers on my hands. To me, this is worth every penny. I am still using the same SD card that I had through my last three phones. This means I have two brand new cards never used. And what if you lose internet connection or you want to swap it into a tablet or business phone? The internet and cloud can he hacked. I like my info secured on the card and a backup dev...
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The Victor

Apr 17, 2015, 10:30 AM
not really becuase its whats available. it wouldnt mean its a deal breaker because as ive mentioned there are other options than using an sd card more specifically in this cae an external hard drive. ive had a much better experience with these than sd cards.

well im glad you havent had to deal with a failing or corrupted sd card, some people put evything on it, back it up no where else and they end up losing everything.

anything i need on a tablet i can do right from my hphone which is the reason the phones have a larger screen. as far as if it were to come to a business phone theres a reason those two would be seperate dont see anything i would need to switch from a personal phone to a business phone or vice versa.

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Slammer

Apr 17, 2015, 11:28 AM
I'm all about consumer control. I've been one of the ones fighting to have phones unlocked. The cloud is controlled by another entity which can be subjected to hacks and other unwanted attacks. My fellow worker found pics of some couple doing the nasty on his tablet. He doesn't now these people. The best we figured is that the couple sent it to the cloud and some glitch sent it to my coworker's tablet.

What if you run out of cloud storage? Now you have to pay a monthly charge for more. Carrying around an extra hard drive seems counter productive to a mobility experience. I have had very few people complain about SD card failures.

So , let's say a person has an SD card and backs it up on an external source. What's the difference wheth...
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The Victor

Apr 17, 2015, 2:27 PM
ok yes i understand the cloud can be hacked o have glitches just as evrything can. as far as getting someone elses files how often do you really think something like that is going to happe...not very likely...more likely.

thats why id prefer to actually use an external hard drive for those cases when you dont have the data, but if i remember correctly dont the major carriers provide cloud service still? i know at&t does and i believe verizon still does just not sure of the other 2...could be wrong dont recall.

as far as the difference between the SD card and external hard drive i just see it as a safety/eloabbility thing, i know its a less used option but havent come across any issues with it personally or through my work.

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Slammer

Apr 17, 2015, 3:57 PM
I'm going to be perfectly honest here Victor.

I have had so little problems with SD cards or memory in general, that I should be one of the people claiming that we don't need the cards. However, it would be hypocritical of me to waiver on my staunch consumer advocacy.

I stand by my views that I don't care if one person uses something and another does not. At $900+, I expect the device to incorporate the most flexibility as possible. When it comes to normal mainstream users, why should a consumer spend $900 if they can obtain the same end result with a $100 phone having the same limited capabilities?

I understand that a more expensive device has faster processors, memory and better cameras. But, in all honesty, there really is not ...
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netboy

Apr 14, 2015, 9:16 AM
stay away from porn?
then why do you need microSD ?
isnt 32gb enough? Smile
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allbeit

Apr 14, 2015, 1:07 PM
Really intelligent comeback. Do keep up the good work. Interesting that porn came to mind so easily.

I don't recall mentioning the amount of the internal storage space specifically as the issue. That would be called a "straw man" argument.
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