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The breakdown of things

temp_name

Jan 11, 2006, 12:40 PM
The offers (OTA):

Sprint: $2.50/song
Verizon: $1.99/song
Cingular/iTunes: N/A
Amp'd: $0.99/song

The offers (PC):
Sprint: N/A
Verizon: $0.99/song
Cingular/iTunes: $0.99/song
Amp'd: N/A ??

Arguments coming from people that don't like the "new" service:

Pricing-
The only one that beats Verizon is Amp'd for OTA.

MP3 Disabling-
Well, as stated on this board many times Media Player 10 will auto-convert your MP3 files into WMA files for playback. This includes downloaded MP3 files or ripped MP3 files from your own personal collection.

MP3 to WMA Lossy format?-
Personally, I don't know enough about digital music encoding to know if Media Player 10 would convert it at a loss of quality or would be able to keep the quality ...
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kvazzz

Jan 11, 2006, 12:53 PM
wow. speechless 😳
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SystemShock

Jan 11, 2006, 7:01 PM
temp_name said:
MP3 to WMA Lossy format?-
Personally, I don't know enough about digital music encoding to know if Media Player 10 would convert it at a loss of quality or would be able to keep the quality the same, so I refuse to argue this. Though, I refuse to accept the argument that this DOES create a loss in format without some evidence (not just someone claiming it).

Gosh, its pretty well-known that sending a file through multiple lossy compressions (which are called 'lossy' because they LOSE information) is worse for quality then sending it through once. But if ya need to hear it from an official source:

Depending on the design of the format lossy data compression often suffers from generation ...
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temp_name

Jan 11, 2006, 9:07 PM
how much of a loss are we talking about? Is it that significant that 99% of the people would notice it? If we had to compare it to colors (as I did earlier), how would you rate it...

RGB(0,0,0) to RGB(?,?,?) ?? how far from the source is it?
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SystemShock

Jan 12, 2006, 6:16 AM
Love to give you an exact breakdown based on percentages, etc., but the problem is that audio is subjective to a large degree.

Some people have awesome hearing, others are pretty much tone deaf. It also matters how good the equipment is that you're listening through... $7 Walmart headphones vs $150 audiophile headphones, yeah, there's gonna be some difference in the amount of detail you pick up. A good home stereo system vs a POS flea-market rack system... same thing.

So you're going to have to do some conversions and see for yourself. But I can hear it.
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yeahright

Jan 11, 2006, 8:29 PM
this is just my opinion, but would the quality loss even be noticable on your small ass phone speakers or through headphones? I know the loss of quality might become more aparent if you are blaring music in your car stereo or rattling your windows with your home system, but through a headset or your phone speakers? I would guess you would need a massive loss of quality to hear a difference on these devices
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SystemShock

Jan 11, 2006, 8:46 PM
Depends on the person an' how good their headphones are. If you use good 'phones (and there are some VERY good ones out now, if your willin' to pay), you'll be more likely to hear a difference.

Far as hearing goes, that's very individual. Some people are audiophiles and can pick out every little thing, others are functionally tone-deaf. It really varies from person to person.
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