Verizon Turns Up The Music
Historical Handset Restrictions Make this Unattractive
psuser said:
Verizon goes out of there way to ensure that you cannot freely move YOUR content back and forth from YOUR cell phone and then tout this service for the fact that you can move music back and forth from your cell phone to your PC - as long as you purchase it from them for up to $2 along with software, a flash card, USB cable, etc. They should have debuted this offering as a subscription service that is included with your vCast $15 monthly charge.
Do you want everything for free??? No other carrier allows you to download music without a charge per song. Sprint is $2.50 per song. Cingular charges the iTunes price -- until they have HSDPA up and running. What more do you want???
I'm hoping that Sprint lowers their price down to compete with VZW.
I know in other countries you can download songs as low as 9 cents a song. 👿
CptFarlow said:
I don't know if Verizon will do this, but with Sprint, if you download music onto a card, and then pop that card into another phone, it won't play. When you download a song it registers itself to the ESN of the phone.
I'm hoping that Sprint lowers their price down to compete with VZW.
I know in other countries you can download songs as low as 9 cents a song. 👿
No...this is NOT true. You are able to move your flash card to/from phone and still have the song play. At least, it works between the two A920s that I have.
My other experience is after I had my A920, I changed my phone number. After I programed my new number into my phone, the songs I had just downloaded into my phone wouldn't work, saying the same thing.
Maybe it's just me, but that's what I've seen.
barryefau said:
OR take OUT of your PHONE and INTO your MEMORY CARD READER THAT YOU CAN PICK UP FROM FRY'S FOR $7!
I'm not so sure this is true.
I understand that some of you have razrs and you feel cheated b/c there is a music player, but no way to play music, but it is somewhat absurd to effect a multi-million dollar rerelease of software so that users can download and listen to 5 or six songs.
it is also kind of a foolish notion to want to download music and only be able to listen to 5 or 6 songs for your entire time you are away from your computer. if you need portable music so badly that you gotta get your 5 song fix in, then buy a CD and a CD player, use a CD burner, mp3 player, or whatever.
I'm not familiar w/ vCast as I'm a Sprint user but be happy your downloads are cheaper where we are charged $2.50/song. Sprint does give you 5 free songs upfront however.
Okay so you have to buy a memory card to transfer music, big whoop. Everyone who listens to mp3s on their phone has a memory card so that's not a big deal at all. Why do you think that's such a big deal?
Included in the $15 charge? You do know for each time a song is downloaded, they have to send a royalty check to that record label. If VZW were to do that, you would see a lot of freeriding and that's not good economics. Besides, this service will compete with iTunes and the operational business model of VZW Music is almost identical with iTunes. Since iTunes is successful, why change the business model?
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No 7PM nights for any cost.
Still have some videos on VCast that cost $$ to watch despite paying $15/mo for access.
Prices on games has jumped from $5-$7 for unlimited use to $7-$10 for unlimited use.
They still are the highest $$ per minute on their plans.
Time to wait out the rest of my contract.
If it were PREMIUM service, then I wouldn't have to argue with customer service over the plan changes I called for last month that they didn't do. I wouldn't have to step outside my building to get service - and I am in a small, standalone store.
If by premium, you mean overpriced, perhaps you have a point, sir.
Here's a resolution for cheap customers like you: if you cannot afford it - don't buy. If you don't like the price, don't buy.
It's like to come to the Lexus dealership, and complain that the sunroof option on new i330 is more expensive then on new Kia... Well, duuuhh...
Look, Vz cannot charge you more money than the priceplan you initially signed for in a contract... They don't make you dw rings, songs, games, videos... If you don't like it - fine DON'T GET IT!
If you cannot afford Vz - next time do your planning better.
POINT OUT IN MY POST WHERE I SAY I CANNOT AFFORD VERIZON SERVICE!
A Lexus costs more than a Kia because it is nicer than a Kia.
MY WHOLE POINT IS VZW SERVICE IS LOSING IT'S EDGE.
Their coverage area is not growing. It has remained the same for 6 months or more.
Their prices remain high, with no new benefits.
Other carriers are improving their footprints and are close to what VZW offers, at lower prices with more minutes and N/W options.
VCast is no longer the only game in town, and soon there will be a third option too.
So, stop making assumptions. You're making the saying true.
There's 3 new towers in VT/CT activated in 06! Check the calendar, buddy.
Gotta love talking to person who doesn't read the news.
Prices are the same as Cingy. Music is gonna be cheaper than Sprint. Games are the best, period.
Losing the EDGE, you say? After adding more (or at least the same) customers than Cingy AND Nextel last quarter?
kvazzz said:
Just because Vz didn't call you (oh, how dare!..) that doesn't mean they didn't put new towers up...
There's 3 new towers in VT/CT activated in 06! Check the calendar, buddy.
Gotta love talking to person who doesn't read the news.
Prices are the same as Cingy. Music is gonna be cheaper than Sprint. Games are the best, period.
Losing the EDGE, you say? After adding more (or at least the same) customers than Cingy AND Nextel last quarter?
Have to mostly agree wit' kvazz on the above points.. VZW HAS been addin' towers in lots of places.. jus' check their press releases or the news sites like RCR.
Also agree that what Sprint is chargin' for music is OUTRAGEOUS. $2.50 a song? Haha, no...
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They just lost 7,200 stores from coast to coast, and RadioShack was responsible for 1.7 million of the 2.5 million new lines in 2004.
I can tell you from where I stand, RadioShack did more in 2005.
That will hurt. VZW needs to keep up in the plan department BETTER than they did before to hope to keep 2006 even with their 2005 growth.
There's rumors already of them doin' a deal wit' Walmart. Stay tuned.
(also, I think VZW had around 13-14 mil new lines last year, not 2.5 mil, unless your talkin' West Coast only.)
And, as far as the wool being pulled over one's eyes, look at the whole picture - Cingy has a number of plans cheaper than VZW.
Almost every Sprint plan is cheaper than it's VZW counterpart.
Same can be said of others.
Oh, and don't expect too much growth out of VZW in '06..... they lost 7,200 stores (ie. RadioShack) - that were responsible for about 60% of their growth.... so they won't be "In" for long.
- Cingy has 3 whole plans that are cheaper than VZW, which they added recently. Most of their plans offer the same number of minutes for the same price as VZW.
- Sprint isn't that much cheaper than VZW when you factor in that Sprint charges for mobile-to-mobile, VZW doesn't.
- Don't worry too much 'bout Radio Shack, VZW will line up additional distribution to offset.. its not like they didn't see this comin'.
There's already rumors that they'll be back in Wal-Mart soon, which would be huge.
Included in the plan price or not, you will still be paying for internet access for Nascar updates. If it bothers you that much, you may want to check out the new ESPN Sprint MVNO.
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I live in SoCal, an' spend a lot of time both there an' in NorCal (Hayward/Oakland & San Jose areaa). Trust me, Verizon beats Sprint in both areas (tho' the gap is probably bigger up north). Both Consumer Reports an' JD Power agree too.
Sprint a better value? Depends. On their Family plans, they do give you a little more minutes than Verizon fo' the same money. On individual plans, not really.. 400 Anytime minutes for $35, plus 50 more minutes for another $5 if I go over? Sounds a lot like Verizon's 450 Anytime minutes for $40 when you add it up to me. Tho' the Fair & Flexible thing is nice if you chronically go over your minutes. But T-mobile is che...
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VZW has not made any giant leaps forward since VCast. Sprint, Cingular have both improved their service in several ways since VCast's launch.
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Thank you.
halo said:
So, yes, Verizon isn't the only game in town. It surprises me how so many people are brainwashed into thinking Verizon is the best and insult other carriers without direct experience with them.
My apologies for contradictin' y'all, but I DO have direct experience wit' Sprint.
That direct experience led me to go wit' Verizon. Sry.
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Far as value goes, if Sprint would get rid of the extra 5 bucks they charge for mobile-to-mobile (boo), then I might agree wit' you on what a good value they is. But I still see Sprint chargin' for M2M. What's up wit' dat?
I also hear Sprint's customer service ain't very good at all. That bothers me, 'cus I don' want to get a rude cat on the phone wit' me when I have a problem. Life's too short, know what I'm sayin'?
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Most work on both CDMA bands and AMPS.....
Sprint has improved their CS.... by no means perfect, but better. And, if you pay your bill, they actually bend over backwards to keep you.
It's all good, though. Maybe VZW will turn around and get better here.
Oh, and thanks for making your point politely as well. Most people here seem more interested in insults and less interested in civilized discussion.....
At first the VZW CS rep was like "Well, that isn't very much money".. an didn't offer me anything. But that wasn't what the call was really about, I was jus' confirmin' what had been done contract-dates-wise at BB.
But then I get my next bill, an' sure enough, I'm credited fo' the whole amount that Best Buy messed up on, even tho' I hadn't insisted on that. Nice. 🙂
Oh, an' no prob on the civility thing. Life would be better if peeps did not hate, so I try not to.
molsky99 said:
Hey System..you dont need to get back to me on anything..Sprint DOES roam on Verizon and you can use half your allotted minutes on their network if needed.
Jus' wanted to add that apparently the Verizon-Sprint roaming agreement is NOT a silver bullet for all of Sprint's network inadequacies. As was explained to me:
While they do have roaming agreements setup, the key is that the PRLs disallow roaming onto the other carriers network where there is native coverage.
For example. Sprint has their own coverage in Washington DC as does Verizon. So a Sprint phone is programmed as Sprint ONLY in that zone. You leave Washington DC and go to an area that Sprint does NOT have native coverage t ...
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To me, it also jus' does not make logical sense for VZW to give unrestricted non-roaming access to their network to Sprint customers. There's roamin', after all, an' then there's livin' off of VZW's network. VZW has no incentive to allow the later, since their network is better overall in most places than Sprint's, and a key selling point for 'em.
Oh, an Sprint coverage is okay in both cities.. jus' not as quite as good as Verizon, in my experience. Consumer Reports seemed to agree, from what I remember. If bein' on Sprint is the same as bein' on Verizon, then why did Verizon...
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molsky99 said:
I definately believe Verizon is NOT worth the price in the Southern California market.
That's where I spend a lot of time, and I strongly disagree.
I gave Sprint a chance, Verizon was better. End o' story. But given that VZW is pissin' me off with their crippled bluetooth and crippled mp3 crap, I'll be happy ta give Sprint a looksee once my contract is up to see if they're on par with Verizon by then.
Sprint would have to cut their song prices by half and start rolling out some hard-drive (or very large flash capacity) phones to really be competitive.
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