hahah true that phoneman3. Honestly, I can't wait for the Voyager to hit the stores so I can start messing around with it. I mean all of these new phones look awesome. I'm just not so sure about that Samsung Jukebox phone but that's about it. I can't wait to see what the touch screen experience will be like on the Voyager. Oh yeah when on a WiFi network, the Iphone is pretty dam fast and as you said, you get the signal in the City. That's good for you. This phone should be comparabel to the Iphone. I mean sure the inside of the Voyager will still have the full qwerty keyboard as exactly like the enV does now, BUT they say that thankfully Verizon changed up the User Interface on it a bit and the front of the phone is all new. ...We shall see.