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like i said

beeferjay

Oct 4, 2007, 9:54 AM
Embarassed Embarassed

I would be embarrassed to release such a nice phone with a crippled interface.


The iPhone was good for the competition. It inspires the manufacturers to cater to the fancies of the American public.

Now that the technology has advanced sufficiently, lets combine it all into one device and call it the veal chop.

delicious

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Mordikar

Oct 8, 2007, 9:37 AM
ok you know everyone cries about how VZW cripples this and cripples that.

1) AT&T cripples everything they releaseby putting it on that joke they call a network.

2) I'd really like to understand why you feel the UI has been "crippled"?

I understand that they do cripple the obex bluetooth profile. However to be honest that's a contractual requirement by the Get It Now vendors. They don't want people sharing thier ringtones and applications so they require that VZW disable obex. And yse Dialup is usally disabled but it doesn't even require you to hack the phone to turn it on. just a series of keystroks such as ##dialup on te moto's and VZW will even tell you now how to turn it on.

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beeferjay

Oct 8, 2007, 9:47 AM
you must love VZW, you defend them with a passion only seen in the movies.

I once bluetoothed a song from my phone to a commie VZW phone. It took seriously 5 whole minutes to find the song. Then, to top it off, you could not apply that song as a ringtone, set it as an alarm, or send it to anyone else.

That is just one example. The user interface is old and outdated and has remained unchanged for years and years and years.

Its as worthless as an old Chevy Chase movie. It should be taken out back and shot.

PUT IT OUT OF ITS MISERY

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Mordikar

Oct 8, 2007, 10:19 AM
Thanks for explaining. I was actually genuainely curious about the UI thing by the way.

I had forgotten about the "can't set as ringtone". Then again my e815 doesn't block that. And some of the lg phones don't block that either. but a lot of them do. btw if you bt's the song over then that means up unlocked obex. If you unlocked obex then you should have been able to drop the file into the ring tones folder instead of the sounds or music folder ... but yeah that's an issue.


Yeah the UI is old and could use a facelift. And i think little more than what little they did to the 10k is warranted. I just don't see it as all that much worse than th UI's from the other pones out there. Again i'm a person whose main focus is performance n...
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beeferjay

Oct 8, 2007, 10:30 AM
The UI is so important.

Many of the features of a, lets say, moto phone are disabled or lost when the interface is stardardized.

It brings the higher end phones down and compensates for poor design in the less feature laden phones.

I have noticed on 95% of VZW phones that the OBEX is disabled.

The ONLY people in the world that benefit from such a UI are old ladies and business end users.

I work in this industry. Cell phones are my livelyhood. To me, UI is important.


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Mordikar

Oct 8, 2007, 11:11 AM
I work in the industry too .. but i'm nore oriented in the back end network and not the phones themselves.

So i'm more of a "does it work? yeah? great. is it pretty? No? who cares it works." kinda guy.


and yeah obex is always disabled cause its required by some of vzw's vendors.
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Mordikar

Oct 8, 2007, 11:17 AM
Oh as for defending them ... I had a t-mobile phone and my neighbor had at&t. Service for both carriers was so bad in our area that you had to stand in the street to get signal. not just go in the yard, but actually in the street. Go down town and AT&T drops calls constantly and in some buildings you don't get signal at all.

i've never had an issue getting vzw coverage anywhere i've been so far.
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beeferjay

Oct 8, 2007, 11:45 AM
I have great coverage. I live in Phoenix.


T-Mobile is king 'round these parts.


I work for one of the other "big 4"

crippled UIs give me the heeby jeebies
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carfanatic2

Oct 8, 2007, 12:19 PM
Ok to add into this lovely conversation, I'll say that it is impossible to BT ringtones over to someone else's phone. Verizon does cripple that. Am i a fanatic of Verizon. Yes. Their service is awesome, I never drop a call, I always get service where I go. If you ask me, Verizon has the most attractive phones out on the market. Sure they may still get phones late in the market such as the Pearl but nonetheless, look how poular the Chocolate, the V, enV are. Everyones got them because they are very good phones. When the Voyager comes out along w/ the other phones I do believe that it's going to be awesome.
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beeferjay

Oct 8, 2007, 12:50 PM
not totally true.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...(how do you think your parents hooked up?) (that was a joke)

The chocolate was a piece of doo doo. They had to update the entire phone because of the quality and workmanship. I personally know 8 (!) people that were upgraded for free because they exchanged this phone too many times.

VZW and ATT are overpriced.

In Phoenix, all coverage is the same. Even Cricket works well here. (except in the boonies, but thats for everyonw)

T-mo has great service.
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carfanatic2

Oct 8, 2007, 2:04 PM
Wow someone here is surely against Verizon. hahahaha. Very Happy Sad Yeah I think everyone can admit that the first version of the chocolate wasn't the greatest, the 2nd version is better and hopefully the Venus will be amazing. Verizon might be expensive but the service is awesome. T-Mobile doesn't have good service. I believe they're ranked like 2nd or 3rd as overall carriers. SOunds to me like you don't like Verizon at all. lol.
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Mordikar

Oct 8, 2007, 2:24 PM
the craplate 1.0 sucks. The company handed me the white one as a test phone and if it wern't free i'd never use it. i HATE that pressure sensative thing because you push onething and it does another.

Also if you get it to close to your face it mutes the call (i don't use mine for voice calls though)

The craplate 2 is a good deal better on it's presure interface.

Thankfully the Voyager does NOT use that same tecchnology!!!!!

T-mobile was ok where i USED to live, then we moved into th new house and as i mentione before standing in the street out here to make a phone call bites.

Then again there are some places i know we have coverage issues .. everyone has spots it jsut seemed that t-mobile and at&t have more of them and they...
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carfanatic2

Oct 8, 2007, 2:34 PM
That's true. Good point to all points. haha

Yeah verizon may not be the cheapest, but you're paying for reliable, dependable service that hasn't let me down so far. It's always there for me no matter what.

What do you mean by the craplate 1.0? I'm confused. hahha. Are you referring to the chocolate?

I wonder how the Voyager's touch screen will react when you put your face up to it to talk on the phone. Will the screen automatically deactivate then light up again when it senses your face not being there?
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beeferjay

Oct 8, 2007, 3:39 PM
choco doodle doo?

it would be tight to have a phone like that for T-mo.

Soon i will rejoice when big brother vacates the 1700Mhz and T-mo has the sprectrum to compete with the other "big 3"

I think they are doing a great job considering they have half the "juice" as the other big 3.
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carfanatic2

Oct 8, 2007, 8:16 PM
Sounds to me like you're not a fan of Verizon at all. Interesting. lol.
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Mordikar

Oct 10, 2007, 1:49 PM
yes carfanatic i was talking about the chocholate. I hate my white one.

the 10k's touch screen it toatly diffrent though and it doesn't suffer the same problems. At least it didn't for the little while i got to play with one.
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carfanatic2

Oct 10, 2007, 9:36 PM
Well that's good to hear. I just can't wait for it to come out that's all.
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gowireless1

Oct 12, 2007, 10:20 AM
k everyone is entitled to an opinion. that said T-Mobile????? really?????? if i had T-Mobile where i live not only would i have to go into the street to make a call id have to get in my car and drive an hour north or south to get a signal. T-Mobile BLOWS here. Of course their coverage is great in a big city such as phoenix everyone does. the one thing i can say about T-Mobile is when i was in Germany with the Army T-Mobile is all there was. If they can get that kind of coverage here ill quit my job with VZW and go work for them.
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carfanatic2

Oct 12, 2007, 3:25 PM
haha that's funny although i don't think T-Mobile will ever be that good here. Verizon's the way to go. haha
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