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pennyless10

Oct 3, 2007, 3:16 PM
Go figure a company from the orient Stealing the IPHONE UI... Rolling Eyes they can try all they can but any 1/2 decent American would keep their money in the united states and buy the IPHONE, put food on American's tables not south Korea!!
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bkw79

Oct 3, 2007, 3:33 PM
Steal the Iphone's UI? It is different from the Iphone, and LG came out with the Prada phone before the Iphone was ever released.
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westindianhoney

Oct 3, 2007, 7:39 PM
Sweetie, the LG Voyager has been offered to a carrier who's network can't even support the iPhone so I'm pretty sure a lot of half decent Americans will be purchasing the Voyager when it comes out.
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ijs12fly

Oct 4, 2007, 8:00 AM
I am not sure I understand this message? Who's network can't support the iPhone? Are you saying that the AT&Ts low speed data network is superior to the EVDO Rev A capability that is now offered by VzW and Sprint? AT&T is like having Dial Up while the other two is like having a cable modem. There is no comparison. Maybe I misread your post?
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carfanatic2

Oct 4, 2007, 8:19 AM
hahahahah I completely agree with you and this is the MAIN reason why i dislike the Iphone. Besdies having WiFi on it, it only runs on Edge network?? WHY? Seriously that's why the Voyager could be more opopular because even though it won't have WiFi on it, it'll have the EVDO and fast high speed data network capabilities. There's no comparison to AT&T's crappy slow network!
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usf

Oct 4, 2007, 11:00 AM
Do you have to pay to use the WiFi?
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carfanatic2

Oct 4, 2007, 11:21 AM
Not yet I don't think. RIght now in Hotspots such as Panera Bread, Starbucks, etc, you can use their WiFi for free they just want you to buy some food. lol.
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pennyless10

Oct 4, 2007, 3:51 PM
ok well since you keep wining about how fast your evdo is here in my neck of the woods EDGE IS FASTER THAN EV-DO... i know this because i have the iphone and my brother (who bought into verizon's lies) has the Q9m, we wanted to see who could load THIS SITE faster and using EDGE not wifi the iphone won by 23 seconds!!! thats including all the pictures on the HOME SCREEN!!! so obviously youve never played with the iphone so your going by what your boss told you not what the real world shows you!!! Razz
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carfanatic2

Oct 4, 2007, 5:28 PM
Wow. Did you think of that all by yourself pennyless10. Rolling Eyes Wow...Well lets see first of all I've actually gone into the actual Apple store and played with the Iphone before. My friend from high school has an 8 gig Iphone and back where I LIVE in central New Jersey, we were in my house over the summer and I was like oh how much service are you getting on the EDGE network and he didn't get ONE SINGLE BAR. However, with my enV, I get all 4 bars of EVDO. Why am I wining about EVDO? Simply for the fact that in general for most people know and have experienced EVDO network as faster connections for downloading Get it Now applications, VCast Music, Video, Web. etc. Very Happy Hell, I don't know where it is YOU LIVE, but you could possilby be right ne...
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hayabusa1285

Oct 5, 2007, 9:15 AM
ok, i work for AT&T and i will tell you EDGE sucks. it blows alot i mean 2nd gen technology why would u SE this on a new gen phone is past me. but what i will give the iphone over the env is that it has a bigger screen and it looks better on it. but when u say AT&T network sucks do u not remember the fact that they have 3G. its on all of their new phones from the black jack to the new V9. The iphone web browser is cool but i would never buy one to play around on the net unless i was on WIFI all the time. i would much rather have a 8525. now before u go getting all mad and saying that im one sided i actually carry both networks. i have right now a N75 and the orange env which the net on the N75 blows away the env. i was not at blown away by t...
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carfanatic2

Oct 5, 2007, 9:36 AM
Oh trust me hayabusa1285, I'm not going to get mad at you at all. The ONLY reason i got pissed off at the other guy and I"m not the only one is that he called me a liar. This I am not. You're absolutely correct and I commend you for your stance! Very Happy Smile EDGE SUCKS and yes I know as well AT&T does have 3G phones which run faster but we are specifically talking about the dueling batte b/w the Voyager and the Iphone not any other AT&T phone here. DO you mean to say that 3G AT&T network is faster? I'm not sure about that but the EVDO network from Verizon is pretty fast for me.I mean actually, EVDO is very fast and i'm HOPING that on the Voyager they've improved upon it even more with the Mediaflo network for VCast TV. That'll be insane. Yeah, ...
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matrix2004

Oct 7, 2007, 10:59 AM
My guess is once Verizon turned down the Iphone and hooked up with Cingular, Apple figured that now that Verizon knew about the Iphone, they would have to get together with LG and bring the Prada or a variant of the Prada to Verizon and Apple decided to rush it instead of waiting to get it right. Otherwise it would have 3G like the Prada Voyager.
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carfanatic2

Oct 7, 2007, 3:32 PM
True. That's why LG had to stay competitive i guess with the Voyager to attract more people again.
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gowireless1

Oct 5, 2007, 2:16 PM
I work for verizon and EVDO is great.......when you have coverage. I live and work in the sticks so all these high speed features are great but where i live they dont work. Personally I like the iphone because of the wifi. Im one of three friends who sell cell phones and im the only one who works for verizon the other 2 work for at&t so ive used the iphone and i think that the wifi is much better that the terrible evdo service we get around here
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carfanatic2

Oct 5, 2007, 2:26 PM
True out in the sticks i suppose EVDO coverage isn't the greatest which is where WiFi does come in handy if you can pick up a WiFi network that is. Usually though, in most places EVDO coverage is excellent. I go to college in North Jersey and I always have 4 bars and most places that I travel to have good reception areas as well. I do know what you mean though. I used to be a greeter at some Verizon stores and so I know these phones extremely well. I'm applying for full-time tech support after I graduate college in December.
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gowireless1

Oct 5, 2007, 2:38 PM
i would say of all the jobs here tech would be the last one on my list. listening to people piss and moan about their phones all day not for me dont have the patience for it. sales is much quicker much better money and so much less of a headache. I live in upstate new york about 3 and a half hours directly north of nyc as i said earlier the sticks. gotta travel 45 minutes to albany to get any kind of EVDO service.
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carfanatic2

Oct 5, 2007, 2:55 PM
True but at the same time, I love talking and helping people figure out their phones. Not all the customers complain about their phones half the time they just don't know how to do a certain function on their phone. As for the money, as my dad said, don't be concerned with salary the first job you get, just be happy with what you do. I should have a job that i love waking up for every day of the week which I think tech support could be for me. I love showing people how BT works and things like that. Yeah, where you live that is the sticks. I see what you mean. I've never had a problem with EVDO coverage. I love the service.
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gowireless1

Oct 5, 2007, 4:01 PM
good luck man if thats what you want to do have at it. just dont be like the rest of the morons that work here and become brainwashed youve gotta be able to tell them you dont agree if you want to get anywhere any R.D. (regional director) will respect you more and promote you faster if you tell them how it is and not just go along with what they say and what they want you to think........2 years currently running my own store......it works trust me
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carfanatic2

Oct 5, 2007, 9:08 PM
Well thanks very much gowireless1. I mean yeah, it's definitely something I want to do. I love helping people, I know the phones veery well, And I consider myself to very techno savy which is why I enjoy helping people out on the discussion forums.
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pennyless10

Oct 6, 2007, 5:35 PM
if your wonderful cdma network is sooo amazing why is your beloved network going for LTE- the fourth generation of technology based on GSM??
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carfanatic2

Oct 7, 2007, 8:35 AM
That I have no idea on myself actually but overall, what is your beef with CDMA? You do realize CDMA does beat EDGE completely in EVERY aspect right? Listen, i"m not debating this w/ you anymore...It's not worth it. You think what you want to think, and the rest of us will think what we know is true that's all I've got to say.
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pennyless10

Oct 8, 2007, 1:56 PM
Laughing I WIN!!! Razz
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carfanatic2

Oct 8, 2007, 2:07 PM
No you don't win i'm just tired of this dumb, supid argument we're all having with you. You're a troll and should be banned from this forum. Just go away dude. YOu realize you haven't said ONE NICE THING in this forum from the start. That says something about you as a person. That's all I'm saying... Evil or Very Mad Mad
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pennyless10

Oct 8, 2007, 4:54 PM
NO i don't think you understand... i like the the phones Verizon is coming out with, i don't like the fact that the UI the Voyager is using (on the outside screen) looks almost to close to the iphone... and there is several reports (that are legit) that south Korea has reverse engineered the iphone and produced their own look like
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carfanatic2

Oct 8, 2007, 8:19 PM
Yeah ok... It may look like the Iphone BUT it's NOT the iphone so get over it. It's Verizon's own UI. Just accept it...and yes I DO understand what you're saying but you're acting very negative and other people on this forum are saying the same exact thing. Other than WiFi, you do realize the Iphone doens't have that much going for it. No external battery, memory etc. ALl of the features which have already been mentioned already. That's all...
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westindianhoney

Oct 4, 2007, 9:16 PM
Pennyless10 stated that any half decent American would keep their money in the US by purchasing the iPhone and not the Voyager.

I was defending the Voyager and every half decent American VW custeromer by telling pennyless in so many words, that their statement makes no sense because their saying that any half decent American VW (CDMA network) customers should purchase a GSM network phone (the iPhone) regardless of the fact that the iPhone is not supported by our CDMA networks.
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donbp

Oct 4, 2007, 6:07 AM
So you think the iPhone is made in the US, huh?
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janae27

Oct 4, 2007, 8:27 PM
So apparently you don't use any brand name items because the majority of techology starts in the "orient" then the u.s. tries to make their version. ever notice how much more expensive good quality things are that are foriegn? or how hondas & acuras last forever? or why is it that places in the "orient" like Japan are much more advanced that the u.s.? IGNORANCE is a BITCH tho.
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ChocoTaco369

Oct 5, 2007, 10:55 PM
pennyless, you have to be the most pathetic fanboy on all of Phonescoop. To even compare AT&T's archaic data network to Verizon's network where far more people are covered by 3G than 1xRTT is an absolute joke. There is no comparison. The only advantage of having a GSM carrier is getting unlocked phones. Everything else in the AT&T vs. Verizon argument is in Verizon's favor.

CDMA has better voice clarity, holds MANY more calls per tower giving better network reliability, Verizon's towers reach further than AT&T's towers because CDMA towers broadcast further by nature, Verizon's data network is lightyears ahead of AT&T's dinosaur network...that's why Verizon's churn is nearly half that of AT&T's, even with the terrible phone choices.

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carfanatic2

Oct 5, 2007, 11:19 PM
ChocoTaco369 said:
pennyless, you have to be the most pathetic fanboy on all of Phonescoop. To even compare AT&T's archaic data network to Verizon's network where far more people are covered by 3G than 1xRTT is an absolute joke. There is no comparison. The only advantage of having a GSM carrier is getting unlocked phones. Everything else in the AT&T vs. Verizon argument is in Verizon's favor.

CDMA has better voice clarity, holds MANY more calls per tower giving better network reliability, Verizon's towers reach further than AT&T's towers because CDMA towers broadcast further by nature, Verizon's data network is lightyears ahead of AT&T's dinosaur network...that's why Verizon's churn is nearly half that of AT&T's, e
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JunkNugget

Oct 6, 2007, 12:21 AM
Something else that you should keep in mind: at&t's HSDPA 3G Network is actually a CDMA data Network, or WCDMA. The voice part is still GSM; however data is WCMA. GSM's "superior" EDGE Network can't handle the data load as CDMA, which is why the GSM Carriers need CDMA for their data.

Also, Verizon turned down the iPhone. at&t's "Superior" network was not even Apple's first choice. Go figure! Laughing
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carfanatic2

Oct 6, 2007, 8:33 AM
JunkNugget said:
Something else that you should keep in mind: at&t's HSDPA 3G Network is actually a CDMA data Network, or WCDMA. The voice part is still GSM; however data is WCMA. GSM's "superior" EDGE Network can't handle the data load as CDMA, which is why the GSM Carriers need CDMA for their data.

Also, Verizon turned down the iPhone. at&t's "Superior" network was not even Apple's first choice. Go figure! Laughing


Wow, ya don't say!!! Go figure as to why AT&T's miraculous EDGE Network wasn't even Apple's first choice. lol. Yeah CDMA is just better all around. Better voice quality, downloads, evertyhing. I won'der Why Verizon turned it down though? Oh wells, we'll probably never figure that one out...
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Mordikar

Oct 6, 2007, 12:23 PM
I'll answer that one. MONEY.

Steve jobs came to VZW and said "We have this idea to make a phone and we want you to be the exclusive carier. And in return you're gonna hand us a percentage of every iphone users monthly bill! $$$$$"

VZW responded with "F you steve jobs. We buy your phone, we pay for it up front, WE then retail it to our cutomers at our price. That's the way we deal with every other hardware manufacturer and apple is no diffrent. you don't run our network, you don't run our customer service you don't do anything FOR vzw... why would we just GIVE you a percentage of our income just because you sold us some phones? "

Steve jos said "but but but .. its the IPHONE .. it'll have the apple logo on it and everyone knows th...
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carfanatic2

Oct 6, 2007, 4:12 PM
hahahahha See now that's is really hilarious. OMG. wow. Yeah that pretty much just sums it up right there now doesn't it? lol. Good job. You're a comedian ya know that!
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Mordikar

Oct 6, 2007, 12:43 PM
ok what kind of crack has AT&T been handing you to smoke.

As a network tech for a cellular company by the very definition of the network specification the EDGE network got around 60kbps to 80kbps average speeds. The UPGRADED edge network hits 140kbps to 160bps

The 1xRTT network on VZW ranges 80kbps to 200kbps averae speeds are usually in the 160kbps

THAT'S 1xRTT... the OLD data network
EVDO rev0 averages 300kbps to 600bps (i happen to be posting this with my e815 tethered to a laptop getting around 560kbps. That's a phone from oh almost 3 years old and kicking the crap out of your precious iphone!

With my e815 i managed to reduce a brand new iphone user to a babbling idiot in under minutes. And the only think he could out per...
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JunkNugget

Oct 6, 2007, 12:27 AM
1st: The iPhone has only been out for a few months. Not to bust your bubble, but it takes almost a year to develop a handset and its software, not 2 months. So there is no possible way that LG could have "ripped" off Apple's O/S. It is honestly impossible to do. So you're a tard.

2nd: LG did release the Prada before the iPhone came out. The Prada was also touch screen. So riddle me this: How could LG rip off the iPhone's O/S when they released the Prada BEFORE the iPhone? So you're a tard.

3rd: In 2001, Samsung released the SPH-I300. This handset was a full touch screen handset running Palm O/S. So could it be possible that Samsung also ripped off Apple's O/S too? No way. So guess what? You're still a tard!

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carfanatic2

Oct 6, 2007, 8:39 AM
Wow JunkNugget, yet again you're a very smart person. Yesss, he is a tard! Thank you for making those points to him. Now ya see you idiot, LG did NOT rip of Apple at all. even if the Voyager may look like the Iphones interface, it is NOT the same. Go try to digest that one! Thanks again dude!
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yeahright

Oct 6, 2007, 12:57 PM
hahaha that was great
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carfanatic2

Oct 6, 2007, 4:21 PM
Oh yeah positively totally. That's why i made my previous post to Junk Nugget. lol.
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radioshacker

Oct 9, 2007, 10:48 AM
In case you didn't know, all iPods, iPhones, and other Apple products are made in China. So it isn't like buying an LG phone is supporting South Korea any more than buying an iPhone is supporting China.
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