FCC Commissioner Pai Breaks Rank, Rails Against Net Neutrality
I thought the proposal
Was to classify them as common carriers under Title II of the Communications Act of 1934. But if there are extra rules that, "give[s] the FCC the power to micromanage virtually every aspect of how the Internet works' and "open[s] the door to billions of dollars of new taxes on broadband," I don't support that.
I would be very interested in seeing the proposed rules myself and am quite disturbed that they are being kept secret. I would also be curious to know exactly why Ajit Pai thinks the proposed rules would, "reduce competition and decrease consumer choice; and [will] slow broadband speeds for American consumers." I'm no more likely to believe this is the case just because he says so than I am to believe this is the correct course of ...
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I would be very interested in seeing the proposed rules myself and am quite disturbed that they are being kept secret. I would also be curious to know exactly why Ajit Pai thinks the proposed rules would, "reduce competition and decrease consumer choice; and [will] slow broadband speeds for American consumers." I'm no more likely to believe this is the case just because he says so than I am to believe this is the correct course of ...
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Come one man, don't you realize that every utility is totally jacked up?
I pay an absurd mout monthly in the following utilities:
heating
electricity
water
sewer
cable.
It's govermental way to tax anything they can. That's proven fact.
I pay an absurd mout monthly in the following utilities:
heating
electricity
water
sewer
cable.
It's govermental way to tax anything they can. That's proven fact.
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>>I pay an absurd mout monthly in the following utilities:
I find the following two absurd in cost
heating
electricity
I find the following two reasonable in cost and too essential to health to leave up to chance
water
sewer
Furthermore, none of these utilities are regulated under the Communications Act of 1934. But wireline telephone services are, and I guess I'm not complaining too much about those. And apparently, neither are you.
I find the following two absurd in cost
heating
electricity
I find the following two reasonable in cost and too essential to health to leave up to chance
water
sewer
Furthermore, none of these utilities are regulated under the Communications Act of 1934. But wireline telephone services are, and I guess I'm not complaining too much about those. And apparently, neither are you.
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Do you now understand why the government taking more control is not a good idea? This is the way it is with everything they propose. They talk to the public about the intent of what they are trying to accomplish and that's what everyone gets behind. But when you look at the actual details of how they plan to do it you realize the people who wrote it are a bunch of idiots who couldn't get a real job so they ended up working for the government/running for office.
And sense I love to say I told you so...
I told you so.
And sense I love to say I told you so...
I told you so.
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In many cases you are correct. Clearly, many are indeed no better than brainless tools. I do not believe for a minute that this isn't by design. For every few "idiots" in charge, there is a cold calculating puppet master running his/her show.
Just look at how the Republicans are handling immigration right now. They won a rather lopsided election on the promise to stop the executive amnesty and now...they have backed way off. Hmmm. Maybe because all those big donors WANT overwhelming immigration to lower wages.
The problem with having a powerful centralized government is that ALL governments can be taken over. I think most people would agree that these "evil corporations" are the problem, but it is deeper than that. The reality is that th...
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Just look at how the Republicans are handling immigration right now. They won a rather lopsided election on the promise to stop the executive amnesty and now...they have backed way off. Hmmm. Maybe because all those big donors WANT overwhelming immigration to lower wages.
The problem with having a powerful centralized government is that ALL governments can be taken over. I think most people would agree that these "evil corporations" are the problem, but it is deeper than that. The reality is that th...
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And what's worse is our government gets sold to the highest bidder. It's now called "free speech" but it's really just bribery. He who has the most money, has the most speech. However, money is not speech in most people's book. Our country went down the toilet thanks to lobbyists and PACs. You take away letting corporations bribe congress and give the power back to the people, it would be over for their corporate takeover. United Corporations of America. I suggest checking out www.infowars.com if you want to become enlightened to all the corruption going on in this country. 😡
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I've been listening to Alex since the late 90s. I'm also a friend of Corey Wilson who has been on the show several times.
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>>They talk to the public about the intent of what they are trying to accomplish and that's what everyone gets behind. But when you look at the actual details of how they plan to do it you realize the people who wrote it are a bunch of idiots
Yes, this sort of thing happens a lot. But as much as I despise BIG government, I don't despise the entire notion of government, nor do I think that government always fails at everything. Until just now I have been under the impression that ISP's would be classified as common carriers under Title II of the Communications Act of 1934.
I'd be lying if I said that I've read that act in it's entirety. But I have read the pieces concerning Title II which are relative to the net neutrality debate, and a...
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Yes, this sort of thing happens a lot. But as much as I despise BIG government, I don't despise the entire notion of government, nor do I think that government always fails at everything. Until just now I have been under the impression that ISP's would be classified as common carriers under Title II of the Communications Act of 1934.
I'd be lying if I said that I've read that act in it's entirety. But I have read the pieces concerning Title II which are relative to the net neutrality debate, and a...
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"Yes, this sort of thing happens a lot. But as much as I despise BIG government, I don't despise the entire notion of government, nor do I think that government always fails at everything."
No one said they fail at everything. We have the best and strongest military in the world for example. However, they fail at a high percentage of what they attempt and the less they get into the better.
"But make no mistake. Whatever the outcome, these men are not idiots. They know exactly what they are doing."
lol.
No one said they fail at everything. We have the best and strongest military in the world for example. However, they fail at a high percentage of what they attempt and the less they get into the better.
"But make no mistake. Whatever the outcome, these men are not idiots. They know exactly what they are doing."
lol.
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>> However, they fail at a high percentage of what they attempt and the less they get into the better.
As a rule of thumb, I agree. However, until recently I thought this was the exception to the rule. I am now unsure, but will reserve judgment until I know what is in these new rules.
As a rule of thumb, I agree. However, until recently I thought this was the exception to the rule. I am now unsure, but will reserve judgment until I know what is in these new rules.
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I guess he is ignoring the fact that you and several other people told him exactly what this was and exactly how it would be played out. 🤣
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>>I guess he is ignoring the fact that you and several other people told him exactly what this was and exactly how it would be played out
links please
links please
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https://www.phonescoop.com/articles/discuss.php?fm=m ... »
https://www.phonescoop.com/articles/discuss.php?fm=m ... »
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Honestly, I am reading these for the first time. You must have posted them after I exited the debate. I am simply astonished that you are able to write in this way. If debate with you had started in this way we might have been friends. Unfortunately, this kind of post came entirely too late for my stomach, so I never saw it until now.
I haven't read it all yet, but you seem to be making some good points. I may revisit it and digest it later. If you can manage more of this, I may actually look forward to dialogue with you in the future. I doubt I will be returning that thread, but perhaps we may pick up s...
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>>https://www.phonescoop.com/articles/discuss .php?fm=m& ... »
Honestly, I am reading these for the first time. You must have posted them after I exited the debate. I am simply astonished that you are able to write in this way. If debate with you had started in this way we might have been friends. Unfortunately, this kind of post came entirely too late for my stomach, so I never saw it until now.
I haven't read it all yet, but you seem to be making some good points. I may revisit it and digest it later. If you can manage more of this, I may actually look forward to dialogue with you in the future. I doubt I will be returning that thread, but perhaps we may pick up s...
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I didn't see those posts til now either. He's right on point.
Here is a quote from the second link that is right on with what were talking about:
"I'm not 100% informed on the net neutrality debate although what I do know about it leads me to lean against it. Sometimes seeing who is for or against certain policy ideas is just as informative especially if those people have long track records that show patterns of behavior. For example, I know Obama's track record. I know his pattern of behaviors concerning what he proposes and what he actually does when granted what he asks for or takes what he wants."
Here is a quote from the second link that is right on with what were talking about:
"I'm not 100% informed on the net neutrality debate although what I do know about it leads me to lean against it. Sometimes seeing who is for or against certain policy ideas is just as informative especially if those people have long track records that show patterns of behavior. For example, I know Obama's track record. I know his pattern of behaviors concerning what he proposes and what he actually does when granted what he asks for or takes what he wants."
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Ok, I'm not going to beat a dead horse here. I guess I can see how that passage eludes to what is currently taking place. But his original context was as if I obstinately ignored anyone who warned that the FCC would do something other than what it claimed it was going to do.
Prior debate I participated in was always of the context that the FCC's proposal was wrong, not that they would do something entirely different from what they were saying.
I came to my own conclusions on the issue independently. I hadn't really thought much about classifying them as utilities until this thread
https://www.phonescoop.com/articles/discuss.php?fm=m ... »
But after that I started to do some research and refine my opinions. So, by the...
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Prior debate I participated in was always of the context that the FCC's proposal was wrong, not that they would do something entirely different from what they were saying.
I came to my own conclusions on the issue independently. I hadn't really thought much about classifying them as utilities until this thread
https://www.phonescoop.com/articles/discuss.php?fm=m ... »
But after that I started to do some research and refine my opinions. So, by the...
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Just for reference... It took all of 5 minutes to look through articles about net neutrality to find some "told ya so's".
This one article alone is full of them.
https://www.phonescoop.com/articles/discuss.php?fm=m ... »
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https://www.phonescoop.com/articles/discuss.php?fm=m ... »
https://www.phonescoop.com/articles/discuss.php?fm=m ... »
This one article alone is full of them.
https://www.phonescoop.com/articles/discuss.php?fm=m ... »
https://www.phonescoop.com/articles/discuss.php?fm=m ... »
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Nothing mentioned in any of those posts has happened yet. The only thing that has happened is that the FCC is debating a 300+ page document behind closed doors. It certainly appears that they proposed to do one thing in order to get public support, and then opted to do something quite different. But even that much isn't clear yet. But let's be clear, I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere that anyone thought the FCC would do a bait and switch. But even if they did, that doesn't change the fact that I support what they originally proposed to do. And it doesn't somehow validate the dissenting opinion that what they proposed to do (common carrier classification) will make things worse. To validate that opinion, the FCC must first move forward wit...
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Man. There is just no way that guy isn't an aspiring socialist politician or an insane mental patient. We could have a photo of him with his hand in the cookie jar and he would say "Hardly. You haven't provided any evidence".
Denial isn't a river in Egypt. Lol.
Denial isn't a river in Egypt. Lol.
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