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No matter what you call it.... Its still not Verizon Quality

eric815

Nov 22, 2005, 8:59 AM
You can call it whatever you like...

Cingular
AT&T
at&t
cellular one
pinto
edsel
etc.. etc....

Same crappy network, different day, different name.

It will never reach the quality of Verizon service.

Just goes to show, you can give something a shiney name...

...but you cant polish a turd!
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sangyup81

Nov 22, 2005, 10:23 AM
ok tenmidgets
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sprydle

Nov 22, 2005, 5:09 PM
Yeah just ask those people in California who had to sue Verizon because Verizon was charging them for bluetooth features on bluetooth handsets that are features of the phone not the actual service.

If screwing up your bill is a sign of quality then yeah Verizon's got plenty of that.

Cingular has more towers and if "it's the network" then Verizon's in trouble.
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SystemShock

Nov 22, 2005, 5:53 PM
Cingular has to have mo' towers to cover the same number of people as Verizon though.. thats jus' a limitation of GSM technology, can't handle the same kind of call loads.

That said, Cingular does have a plan in place to improve an' if all goes well theyll be ready to go toe-to-toe wit' anyone in 2 years or so. Right now they gotta deal wit' a lotta merger headaches an' thats settin' them back, like it has with any carrier thats had to do a big merger.
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muchdrama

Nov 23, 2005, 12:18 PM
sprydle said:
Yeah just ask those people in California who had to sue Verizon because Verizon was charging them for bluetooth features on bluetooth handsets that are features of the phone not the actual service.

If screwing up your bill is a sign of quality then yeah Verizon's got plenty of that.

Cingular has more towers and if "it's the network" then Verizon's in trouble.


Teehee. There's my daily laugh.
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pitt_phone_guy

Nov 23, 2005, 9:40 AM
Verizon has great quality? Please. I love Cingular and AT&T and I have had both as well as Sprint.

Cingular phones Kick azz. Looking at Verizon's lineup - I almost puked.
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nextel18

Nov 23, 2005, 9:44 AM
he is talking, i think, about the network...
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pitt_phone_guy

Nov 24, 2005, 12:29 AM
I am talking about both the network and the phone lineup. Call clarity is better in Pittsburgh with Cingular.
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SystemShock

Nov 23, 2005, 3:37 PM
pitt_phone_guy said:
Verizon has great quality? Please. I love Cingular and AT&T and I have had both as well as Sprint.

Cingular phones Kick azz. Looking at Verizon's lineup - I almost puked.

Dat's actually a slam on Cingular ain't it? 'Cus Verizon is flat clobberin' Cingular with a 'puke' phone lineup then.

What were the numbers again? Verizon added 1.9 million customers, Cingular less than 900k? Cingular's got about twice as many customers leaving (churn) as Verizon?

Guess your stomach ain't a good judge of who's actually doin' well. 🙂
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pitt_phone_guy

Nov 24, 2005, 12:38 AM
'puke' accurately describes Verizon lineup.

"very strong' QTR3. Best since merger. Gaining ground in new customer acquisition versus last year and STILL the largest with 51.4 million subscribers. Oh, and the phones rock. Nuff said.
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SystemShock

Nov 25, 2005, 6:56 PM
Sry, but it ain't a 'very strong' quarter if Verizon is kicking Cingular's ass. Which they are, let's be honest here.

Heck, even T-Mobile added mo' customers in Q3. Guess the definition of 'very strong quarter' has changed some.
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SkillciaX

Nov 28, 2005, 9:18 PM
My Cingular representative just informed me that Cingular has almost 52 million customers. That's about 2 million more than maybe 4-5 months ago when they had only 50 million. I'd say that's some growth.

People leave companies for SOOO many different reasons, network, phones, location, not giving them something for being a loyal customer, not good enough phone selection, not good enough plans... People are not just leaving Cingular to go to Verizon or other companies because of the network..

Just wait and see when Cingular launches push to talk!
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SystemShock

Nov 29, 2005, 2:43 AM
SkillciaX said:
My Cingular representative just informed me that Cingular has almost 52 million customers. That's about 2 million more than maybe 4-5 months ago when they had only 50 million. I'd say that's some growth.

If you want the stats, Cingular's customer count went up 1.9 million customers in the last 6 months (the 2 quarters combined).

Verizon's went up 3.8 million customers in the same time period. In other words, double what Cingular did.

Given that pace, its only a matter of time b4 Verizon passes Cingular in total customer count an' retakes the #1 position as largest US wireless carrier.

So ya see, while it is some growth, its not enough growth.

People leave compa
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nextel18

Nov 23, 2005, 9:45 AM
i would agree with you if you talk about verizon's network, but if you compare their phone portfolio and rate plans to cingular i wont agree with you..

verizon has the best network and that is why they have the best brand image and gets the best sub growth in the quarter. (and thats why at the end of 2006 they will be number 1)
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rytiffany

Nov 23, 2005, 5:55 PM
this is all why you get the best of both worlds with Sprint. The phones aren't as cool as some of the GSM phones which is really disappointing but you still get CDMA instead f weak ass GSM. Plus Cingular's logo looks gay. Who wants that thing to come on the mail every month?
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nextel18

Nov 23, 2005, 6:00 PM
lol.. i am not mentioning sprint, but i agree with ya.. the phones will get better though.. sprint has always done a great job with phones but more importantly the data(vision) product.

well said though.
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tropicalhaven

Nov 24, 2005, 8:06 AM
rytiffany said:
this is all why you get the best of both worlds with Sprint. The phones aren't as cool as some of the GSM phones which is really disappointing but you still get CDMA instead f weak ass GSM. Plus Cingular's logo looks gay. Who wants that thing to come on the mail every month?


Well, I think it's very interesting that you choose services based on the way logos look on mailing envelopes.

I live in Florida, and Verizon Wireless sucks here, to put it politely. Cingular is best in *this* area, followed by T-Mobile, and then Alltel, then Sprint Nextel, and finally Verizon Wireless. Cingular and T-Mobile by far have the best voice quality here.
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rytiffany

Nov 23, 2005, 5:57 PM
By the way I'm kidding.
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nextel18

Nov 23, 2005, 6:01 PM
ok, but some of what you said does make some sense...
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tropicalhaven

Nov 24, 2005, 8:02 AM
Verizon Wireless has the best brand image because they put they put a lot of money into marketing. Go to North Dakota and see if Verizon is the "best"...

Everything goes in cycles. Like I've said before, with AT&T's purchase of McCaw, and their new Digital One Rate TDMA plan, they are the coverage leader, and they have the largest network. Now, look what happened with AT&T Wireless. Verizon Communications will fold eventually, it's not a matter of 'if', it's a matter of when and how long did it take. Likewise, Sprint Nextel will fold, and the new AT&T will fold just like the old one did.
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SkillciaX

Nov 28, 2005, 9:30 PM
Well they can't all fold or T-Mobile's gonna be the only National carrier left. lol. I will have to agree though. A lot of the Verizon hype is because of how much they advertise.

They get the message stuck in their head "Can you hear me now" which is very very catchy and so it leads the average consumer to walk in the store and check it out, and then all you need is the sales person for the extras...

Like I said it's all a bunch of hype. The average Verizon customer I see won't even look at another brochure or coverage map of another carrier because they "think" they have the largest and best coverage and best plans, and they don't. I think Cingular and Sprint are beating the coverage of Verizon and T-Mobile is definitely beating the p...
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SystemShock

Nov 29, 2005, 2:46 AM
The average Verizon customer I see won't even look at another brochure or coverage map of another carrier because they "think" they have the largest and best coverage and best plans, and they don't.


Even Cingular's CEO pretty much admitted in a recent interview that Verizon had the best network, an' that Verizon is the benchmark they are hopin' to beat in a couple of years. Pretty tough to beat that endorsement.
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Hacker_Chic

Dec 29, 2006, 7:47 PM
😎 Thats RIGHT no matter what you call it Cingular AT&T CELLONE IT IS STILL BIGGER AND BETTER THAN VERIZON. 😈 😁
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