Cingular 3G To Launch November 1
Cool! But Still So Far Behind Verizon & EVDO
Its great that Cingy is FINALLY starting to get their 3G ball rolling, but they're still so far behind.
Verizon 3G (EVDO):
- already in 84 major metro markets
- available to 140 million people
- avg speeds of 400-700 kbps, 2 Mbps burst
Cingy 3G (UMTS/WCDMA):
- in 15 major metro markets as of Nov. 1
- available to ? million people
- avg speeds of 220-320 kbps
Like I said, nice first step, but available to about 1/5 as many markets and at half the speed?
Verizon 3G (EVDO):
- already in 84 major metro markets
- available to 140 million people
- avg speeds of 400-700 kbps, 2 Mbps burst
Cingy 3G (UMTS/WCDMA):
- in 15 major metro markets as of Nov. 1
- available to ? million people
- avg speeds of 220-320 kbps
Like I said, nice first step, but available to about 1/5 as many markets and at half the speed?
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BetterThanJake said:
Its great that Cingy is FINALLY starting to get their 3G ball rolling, but they're still so far behind.
Verizon 3G (EVDO):
- already in 84 major metro markets
- available to 140 million people
- avg speeds of 400-700 kbps, 2 Mbps burst
Cingy 3G (UMTS/WCDMA):
- in 15 major metro markets as of Nov. 1
- available to ? million people
- avg speeds of 220-320 kbps
Like I said, nice first step, but available to about 1/5 as many markets and at half the speed?
Jake, there was no way they were going to roll it out to 84 markets. You knew that. They are going to do it the same way Verizon did, which is very smart.
I'm just disappointed in the speeds. I guess I will be ...
(continues)
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EV-Do 300ms latency
HSDPA 30ms latency
Latency is more important for web surfing and it prevents Verizon from streaming their videos. If you have V-Cast, you'll have to download clips before watching them.
HSDPA 30ms latency
Latency is more important for web surfing and it prevents Verizon from streaming their videos. If you have V-Cast, you'll have to download clips before watching them.
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Uhm... what service were you using?
I have VCast, and it BUFFERS for 10-20 seconds... THEN it streams, that way when speeds fluctuate it can keep up. Webcasts do the exact same thing for streaming video, for the most part.
I have VCast, and it BUFFERS for 10-20 seconds... THEN it streams, that way when speeds fluctuate it can keep up. Webcasts do the exact same thing for streaming video, for the most part.
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A 20 second buffer is pretty much downloading half of that video. Fine, I'll call it Pseudo-Streaming.
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When it comes to streaming video on handsets, like VCast, with Cingular, and Sprint, it will all depend on content, to see who prevails,
Cingular is supose to be having HBO as a content provider, so that's exciting, but time will tell.
Cingular is supose to be having HBO as a content provider, so that's exciting, but time will tell.
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You're right, content will be huge.
But regarding HBO, I'm trying to think of what they have right now that ppl just HAVE to see, what with 'Sex and the City' and 'Six Feet Under' have ended their runs, and 'The Sopranos' nearing its end and taking about two years between seasons now.
I hear 'Deadwood' is pretty good. And they have some new series called 'Rome, which setting-wise sounds like a good excuse for lots of sex n' violence. I mean that in a good way. 🙂
But regarding HBO, I'm trying to think of what they have right now that ppl just HAVE to see, what with 'Sex and the City' and 'Six Feet Under' have ended their runs, and 'The Sopranos' nearing its end and taking about two years between seasons now.
I hear 'Deadwood' is pretty good. And they have some new series called 'Rome, which setting-wise sounds like a good excuse for lots of sex n' violence. I mean that in a good way. 🙂
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yes, content is huge. But edge BigOrange has is that it will be LIVE, unlike Vcast where you download clips and then watch them. this is big for news, which i see as a big selling point for some reason. also you should be able to take a call when watching
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No streaming on VCAST? Talk to this gentleman:
https://www.phonescoop.com/news/discuss.php?fm=m&ff= ... »
https://www.phonescoop.com/news/discuss.php?fm=m&ff= ... »
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Also, from the VCAST website:
V CAST Technology Overview
Next generation wireless technology has arrived with V CAST. V CAST uses the power of broadband. With average download speeds of 400-700 Kbps you can stream video clips (up to 5 minutes long) of the hottest entertainment, sports highlights, news and breaking weather to your Verizon Wireless V CAST phone. Increased download speed, along with advanced messaging, imaging and data transfer functions are just a few reasons V CAST will change the way you - and the world - view wireless.
http://getitnow.vzwshop.com/vcast.learn.technology.do »
V CAST Technology Overview
Next generation wireless technology has arrived with V CAST. V CAST uses the power of broadband. With average download speeds of 400-700 Kbps you can stream video clips (up to 5 minutes long) of the hottest entertainment, sports highlights, news and breaking weather to your Verizon Wireless V CAST phone. Increased download speed, along with advanced messaging, imaging and data transfer functions are just a few reasons V CAST will change the way you - and the world - view wireless.
http://getitnow.vzwshop.com/vcast.learn.technology.do »
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I think Paul was referring to VCast being pre-recorded clips. You can surely stream clips...but they're still just clips.
HBO content will be just like HBO on your TV set, I'm assuming.
HBO content will be just like HBO on your TV set, I'm assuming.
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I dunno RUFF... what he said was that you download clips and them watch' em.
Far as the HBO content goes, if its live in real-time at the same time the show airs... that will be pretty cool.
Far as the HBO content goes, if its live in real-time at the same time the show airs... that will be pretty cool.
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BetterThanJake said:
I dunno RUFF... what he said was that you download clips and them watch' em.
Far as the HBO content goes, if its live in real-time at the same time the show airs... that will be pretty cool.
The unconfirmed HBO stuff is supposed to be 'exclusive' content. This is stuff that won't be on HBO TV. I'm thinking behind-the0scenes stuff and probably original programming... probably 5-10 minute series.
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who cares if HBO is live, really? but VZW Vcast is all just pre-recorded clips, so maybe my semantics were off - point is that it cannot be live. UMTS/HSDPA will give you live news coverage, which i can see as huge.
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We were speaking specifically of HBO, but I totally agree about the news. Live TV and live video calling will be really easy with hsdpa.
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Al_Swearengen said:
The unconfirmed HBO stuff is supposed to be 'exclusive' content. This is stuff that won't be on HBO TV. I'm thinking behind-the0scenes stuff and probably original programming... probably 5-10 minute series.
In that case, I'm not so interested. It's still cool though.
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All I can think of I want to see on HBO, other than Curb Your Enthusiasm, is I heard Bob Costas has a sports show on HBO, for some strange reason though, it only airs ONCE a month, I don't know what's up with that. But keep in mind, very likely there will be customized content for the "small screen", I've heard there's a lot of specialized content made specifically for V Cast, these are pretty cool times we are living in.
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Amen to that, bro. I love all the cool new stuff thats coming out now, more toys for all us little boys. 😁
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Well, better than no competition....
Besides, I haven't been able to do any file transfers or anything to tell me what the ACTUAL speed of VZW EVDO is.
I would rather see what they do. People can wait an extra damn second.
Besides, I haven't been able to do any file transfers or anything to tell me what the ACTUAL speed of VZW EVDO is.
I would rather see what they do. People can wait an extra damn second.
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evilbstrd666 said:
Well, better than no competition....
Besides, I haven't been able to do any file transfers or anything to tell me what the ACTUAL speed of VZW EVDO is.
I would rather see what they do. People can wait an extra damn second.
what competition? atleast not in my area, San Francisco CA. i looked at the map for cingular umts and verizon evdo map for san francisco area, verizon evdo coverage is much bigger and wider for san francisco area..
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My point was not "Oh, switch now", it was more along the lines that some coverage is better than no coverage.
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