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Second 3G RAZR Slips out of FCC

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Please stab me with a fork

gunny

Oct 13, 2005, 4:42 PM
That is one super cool phone. I'm jealous.
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gunny

Oct 13, 2005, 4:51 PM
I never really learned about the different frequency/bands to fully understand which provider might get this phone. Is there a quick breakdown of this. Many people are confused by this often.
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Pictor

Oct 13, 2005, 5:01 PM
Cingular is on 800/850Mhz and 1900 while T-Mobile uses 1900 (in the US). So I would think that Cingular wouldn't pick up this phone but T-Mobile might.
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gunny

Oct 13, 2005, 5:06 PM
Pictor said:
Cingular is on 800/850Mhz and 1900 while T-Mobile uses 1900 (in the US). So I would think that Cingular wouldn't pick up this phone but T-Mobile might.





THANK YOU, is there in circumstance that Cingular could pick this phone up?
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RUFF1415

Oct 13, 2005, 5:38 PM
Pictor doesn't make a very good argument. Reason being that T-Mobile isn't going to be rolling out a UMTS network for a few years, so it would make no sense for them to pick up a UMTS phone (i.e. this one). It is more likely that there will be a US version with revised bands to suit Cingular since Moto seems to be pulling out the stops and giving Cingular all of the exclusives. Cingular already has another UMTS RAZR phone, the V1050, in their prospective 3G phone lineup. Cingular's UMTS/HSDPA network is expected to be released sometime within the next two months, 40 cities nationwide.

If any US carrier gets this phone, it will be Cingular.
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terryjohnson16

Oct 13, 2005, 5:45 PM
Not going to Cingular anytime soon, if at all. This is a 900MHz international Tri-band phone. Plus, the FCC still hasn't decided if the US will use the 2100MHz band for the US 3G networks.
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Al_Swearengen

Oct 13, 2005, 6:16 PM
terryjohnson16 said:
Not going to Cingular anytime soon, if at all. This is a 900MHz international Tri-band phone. Plus, the FCC still hasn't decided if the US will use the 2100MHz band for the US 3G networks.


This phone could easily be modified for US needs. Simply replace the radios for american compatibility. They currently do this for many gsm phones. They can do it with 3G a well.
I'm not saying the phone will be Cingular or not, but I'm sure it could be arranged if Cingular wanted it. We'll see.
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gunny

Oct 13, 2005, 6:19 PM
Al_Swearengen said:
terryjohnson16 said:
Not going to Cingular anytime soon, if at all. This is a 900MHz international Tri-band phone. Plus, the FCC still hasn't decided if the US will use the 2100MHz band for the US 3G networks.


This phone could easily be modified for US needs. Simply replace the radios for american compatibility. They currently do this for many gsm phones. They can do it with 3G a well.
I'm not saying the phone will be Cingular or not, but I'm sure it could be arranged if Cingular wanted it. We'll see.


Good to know!
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RUFF1415

Oct 13, 2005, 6:20 PM
Okay, read my entire post before you try and respond to it like you did. 🙄

1. I said that Moto would reshuffle the bands that are on this phone to offer it to Cingular, and most likely as another exclusive.

2. Cingular won't be deploying UMTS on the 2100mhz band even if the FCC allowed it...they don't have any licenses in that band. 😉
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terryjohnson16

Oct 13, 2005, 6:28 PM
They wil announce the US 3G band next year right?
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RUFF1415

Oct 13, 2005, 6:43 PM
It doesn't matter when they announce the "US 3G" band. The point is that Cingular is utilizing the 850mhz and 1900mhz bands already available for UMTS/HSDPA, which is a 3G solution. The same thing goes for Verizon and Sprint...

3G technologies are not being rolled out on any new bands...

Maybe 4G (which will most likely be 2.5ghz). 😉
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terryjohnson16

Oct 13, 2005, 6:48 PM
How do they divide the GHz into local freq's?
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RUFF1415

Oct 13, 2005, 6:51 PM
That's something you'll have to ask the FCC. Sprint Nextel already has many licenses in that band, and are planning their next "move" by utilizing that spectrum. The FCC made an agreement with Sprint Nextel that they would approve the merge if specific criteria were met. One of those were that Sprint Nextel would utilize their spectrum holdings in that band by 2007 (I believe) which suggests that is the band the FCC will be offering.
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tropicalhaven

Oct 15, 2005, 9:49 PM
It would be really nice if 2100 mHz would be auctioned off to help standardize the industry world-wide.
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terryjohnson16

Oct 15, 2005, 9:52 PM
Yeah, since alot of people have bought the 3G world phones with the 2100MHz band. But, it all depends if that band is being used for other reasons. Just like how the cordless phones here, use the 900MHz band here, so thats why we don't use it for the cell phones here. Overseas, they use the 900MHz band for the cell phones.
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Jayshmay

Oct 19, 2005, 3:41 AM
The 2100mhz frequency I understand is going up for auction in 07, maybe that's why lazy T-Mobile is doing nothing but waiting to launch a 3G network.
I want nothing to do with companies who wait.
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terryjohnson16

Oct 13, 2005, 5:42 PM
The don't call it 800 anymore. Its now called the 850MHz band.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Oct 14, 2005, 2:18 AM
Cingular nor T-Mobile will pick up this phone. Its a 3G phone and as of yet, Cingular nor T-Mobile utilize UMTS/WCDMA.

Cingular plans on rolling out with 3G soon, but they're 3G wont work on the 2100 MHZ band like it does overseas.

The chances of seeing this phone on T-Mo or Cingular, I'd say, are very slim.
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Jayshmay

Oct 19, 2005, 3:45 AM
I actually Googled this model phone, and ended up finding out the some carrier in Italy is getting it, Europe and Asia ALWAYS get the better handsets!!!!!!!!!!!!
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