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poor poor gsm

stevelvl

Sep 26, 2005, 10:41 PM
wow verizon, sprint, altell, and not even leap wireless. all have evdo which totaly blows gprs or edge out of ther water.

what ever will poor out dated antiquated gsm carriers like cingular and tmob do to compeate?
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nextel18

Sep 27, 2005, 8:31 AM
umts/hsdpa.
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sprydle

Sep 27, 2005, 6:23 PM
HSDPA will top EV-DO and be available with Cingular next year but let's talk about now.

Right now EDGE access with Cingular is more widespread than EV-DO with Verizon forget T-Mobile they'll be stuck at #4 for some time.

high speed is great but without coverage who's gonna buy it?

Have fun using a CDMA phone in Europe 🤣 sure you have 4 million European CDMA users.. 🤣 trouble is they're all in Russia.
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stevelvl

Sep 28, 2005, 8:55 AM
sprydle said:
HSDPA will top EV-DO and be available with Cingular next year but let's talk about now.

Right now EDGE access with Cingular is more widespread than EV-DO with Verizon forget T-Mobile they'll be stuck at #4 for some time.

high speed is great but without coverage who's gonna buy it?

Have fun using a CDMA phone in Europe 🤣 sure you have 4 million European CDMA users.. 🤣 trouble is they're all in Russia.


wiat let me get this strait. cing just finished building there gsm network this year? and they arer already going to build an entirely new hsdpa network to replace it? how much does thsi company waist on bulding obsolite out dated networks?

and for the record hsdpa has fall...
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Rathrok

Sep 28, 2005, 10:29 AM
And you have experience both, in the real world I take it? 🙄
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tropicalhaven

Sep 28, 2005, 7:43 PM
Yeah, in the lab CDMA is really easy to upgrade, most things being just a software update. I guess that's why Verizon Wireless has spent over 2 years working on EV-DO, and it barely has a coverage area?

And if CDMA is so good, why did Qualcomm purchase Flarion? Is it possible that CDMA is a dead-end technology, and OFDM is the future? Maybe OFDM is better than CDMA, but Qualcomm just bought it so it could keep CDMA going?

Also, I bet Cingular gets a pretty penny from European and Asian roamers. Maybe the roaming revenue is enough to offset the cost of upgrading to GSM from TDMA not only for additional roaming revenue, but for equipment compatibility and extra capacity.

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SPCSVZWJeff

Sep 28, 2005, 9:58 PM
Great point. The future (4G) will be some form of OFDM in all likelihood. Which form it is will be determined by the market. Qualcomm buying Flarion will most likely cause the EU to lose interest in FLarion's technology and develop something homegrown. In Europe the market doesn't determine which technology will be used, the regulators do. If the EU would have allowed CDMA to compete with GSM on its own turf the future of wireless may have had a different outcome. SteveLVL is correct in his statement about the expense of all the network rebuilds Cingular is doing. It will cost a lot.
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tropicalhaven

Sep 29, 2005, 6:25 AM
I think TDMA -> GSM -> UMTS will be the killers, but after UMTS, it should be much cheaper and easier to upgrade to HSDPA, HSUPA, and its successor. I think at that time, the CDMA carriers will face thier upgrades which will seem expensive and cumbersome compared to the upgrades faced by the GSM family.

I do think Europe was right mandating a single technology. If they handn't, you'd be stuck with what Europe had in Analogue days -- different companies in different countries using different technologies on different frequencies.

In the United States, for example, a GSM phone works up and down the east down, go to North Dakota, a HUGE dead spot. An iDEN phones works in spiderweb coverage areas. A CDMA phone will not function in ...
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nextel18

Sep 28, 2005, 10:29 PM
nice post.. thanks for the sound opinion 🙂
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