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Hands-On: Samsung Galaxy S5

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This is why Samsung copied Apple....

bluecoyote

Feb 25, 2014, 11:56 AM
Because left to their own design department, this diner stool inspired piece of plastic is what they come up with. Laughing

(Especially bad considering Motorola, HTC and Sony are doing a pretty bang-up job.)
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Slammer

Feb 25, 2014, 12:51 PM
As a mainstream user that signed on to different wireless industry sites such as phones scoop in 2008, I had never heard anyone complaining about plastic phones until after Steve Jobs big speech of Aluminum. Even then, it has been mostly contained in tech media hubs. Having used cellphones since '88, I too, have never had a reason to complain.

Retaining my mainstream user roots, has allowed me to view the scope of outside the technical blog sites. I hear very few people claiming they want metal phones and very few are complaining about the phones they purchased regardless of plastic or metal.

In short, your view is based on personal choice and does not represent the 200 million individuals who have purchased plastic Samsung phones or ...
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Doom Wolf

Feb 25, 2014, 1:02 PM
BURNED
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bluecoyote

Feb 25, 2014, 2:16 PM
What you fail to realize is that a good portion of the world likes Subway, it doesn't mean their sandwiches are great.

Lots of good phones are made of plastic for functional reasons (Moto X). There are a lot of phones that put beauty first (Xperia Z1). But I'd say phone excels at neither.
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Slammer

Feb 25, 2014, 2:48 PM
We're back to the what is good and isn't good scenerio? Bad comparison. You said yourself that alot of people like subway. Doesn't matter if it is good or not. People like it. I like subway. I know it's not the best cuisine. But I don't mind stopping in and grabbing a sub there once in awhile. The point is what you like doesn't necessarily equate to popular choice. Buttered popcorn is bad for you yet billions upon billions of pounds of buttered popcorn is sold. Pizza is bad yet, it ranks up there as being number one in food sold. Nothing good comes from McDonald's yet it is the number one food chain in the world.

People don't care. They want what they want. Plastic is a necessary across all industries. If it was so bad, why is the autom...
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Yama Gama

Feb 25, 2014, 5:27 PM
Plastic = less weight and more insulation against shock.

Therfore, I would say that plastic is superior for metal in phone design.
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bluecoyote

Feb 25, 2014, 8:52 PM
Plastic is good as shock absorption, it's also elastic, which is why it takes considerably less pressure to crack a Samsung phone screen from stress.

Plastic isn't bad, but that doesn't mean all plastics are created equal. Samsung's plastic, which suffers from stress cracks, surface abrasion, and an all-around crumminess (see Phonescoop's take on look/feel) is far inferior to that used by Motorola (which uses a kevlar weave in some cases) , HTC (which uses a higher strength polycarbonate) , and even Nokia (whose phones are chunky but finished nicely.)
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DarkStar

Feb 25, 2014, 9:35 PM
The screen on a samsung phone isn't plastic. Its glass.
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bluecoyote

Feb 26, 2014, 12:07 PM
It sure is. Mounted in a plastic, non-unibody frame, that's why it's more prone to cracking due to stress (e.g. sitting in your back pocket.)
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Slammer

Feb 26, 2014, 5:37 PM
How do we explain the same incident with my friend's HTC One? When he brought it in to replace it, the rep asked him wtf he did to it. Premium build but same issue.

No. He's not a fat *ss either.

John B.
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DarkStar

Feb 25, 2014, 9:39 PM
omg I just realized you are misunderstanding your own argument. You don't care about the material at all. You keep saying that plastic is better and blah blah blah and metal is lame and whatever.

Your sole argument is access to the battery and an sd card slot. The only reason why you keep complaining about metal is because it angers you when some people say they like the metal. I do the same thing when you say plastic is better.

Stop arguing about plastic and metal and contain your arugment to access to the battery and a removable SD card.
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Slammer

Feb 26, 2014, 6:44 AM
This is a two part argument.

First and foremost is ease of accessibility. This is the utmost importance for consumer control and derail of unnecessary costly expenditures. Computers have always had the ability to remove batteries and upgrade memory at will. No one ever complained. In fact, it was preferred by most people so the computer could expand with needs of the consumer. Techies like to tinker and accessibily allowed this. The industry is eliminating this luxury. You purchase a phone and you get what you get. If you out grow it or want to expand memory or repair your own battery, you're out of luck. Just throw your expensive phone away or never use it again. Great concept. Industry controls you. You have no control. This is the ne...
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bluecoyote

Feb 26, 2014, 12:19 PM
No, it's about tradeoffs, and the market has spoken.

Removable batteries add:
-Thickness (you need a mechanism to store/hold the battery)
-Weight (that mechanism adds weight)
-Fragility (contact points, etc. need to be reinforced to handle insertion/removal)

Removable Memory adds:
-A new hardware failure point
-A new software failure point (If an SD card isn't read properly and an app caches to it, it leads to instability, of course.)
-Fragmented file system storage

Do you know what the average consumer hates?
Having "Out of Memory Errors" because their Samsung device maps internal storage as SDCard, confusing a lot of apps (Rdio and Google Play) into storing content on the paltry 16GB instead of the actual S...
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Doom Wolf

Feb 26, 2014, 12:53 PM
The Galaxy is proof that you can keep a removable battery and Micro SD cart slot within a slim design. Your point is invalid.
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Slammer

Feb 26, 2014, 6:06 PM
Yes. The market has spoken. But who is controlling the market? There are plenty of consumers that are dealing with sealed batteries and no memory slots, but they aren't digging it. Dictation can take many forms.

They are either forced to purchase higher memory phones which are 100+ dollars more depending on the amount of memory, or they are resorting to pay monthly for cloud storage. It only appears people are content because they really don't have much of a choice. There is Samsung(which you hate) for extracting batteries or sd cards. OR, there is everybody else that has practically eliminated this choice. Those that don't like Samsung like yourself, chose to go with another brand in spite of their wishes for accessibility. Many I know ...
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DarkStar

Feb 28, 2014, 3:45 PM
Your battery should not have swelling in less than a year.

The market has spoken that is why the iPhone continues to grow in sales.

I've never had a customer ask for a removable battery. Some have asked about removable memory.
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DarkStar

Feb 25, 2014, 9:32 PM
Now this I dare anyone to argue against.
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WokeUpAsADonut

Feb 28, 2014, 3:11 PM
You're making some big assumptions here without taking into account a LOT of things.

True very few people complain about it but thats only because thats all they've ever owned. We, the ones who stay up to date on the subject, who handle phones of different builds, know how they feel. Some of them don't even know there are non-plastic phones other than iPhones.

And you can't use sales numbers for this case at all. Because frankly, if 95% of all phones made are made with plastic, then of course there will be millions of people who have plastic phones.

Also, as someone who sees customers phones every day, the number in a case is much closer to 75% then 95%. And that would go down even further if manufacturers made phones more durable l...
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