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Different?

Jayshmay

Jan 17, 2014, 3:50 PM
How would a cellphone search without a warrant be any different than any other search without a warrant???
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Hays21

Jan 17, 2014, 4:29 PM
It is hard to define whether or not it is different. I believe in the terms and conditions of using a cell phone, it would say something along the lines that all of your data is collected. Since all of your data is collected, GPS location is readily available through apps/social networking and that people often use cell phones in public, do people have a reasonable expectation of privacy while using a cell phone?

I think that searches of the cell phone iteself should require a warrant. Most states allow searches of cell phones after an arrest is already made. I do not however think police should require a warrant to track a phones GPS. Acquiring a phones call data is pretty much up to the carriers. Which laws could be made requiring polic...
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Yama Gama

Jan 17, 2014, 10:37 PM
What we need are laws against data collection in general. Market research should be illegal, as it contributes not to excellent advances, but rather to excellent marketing (which is sadly the antithesis of an advance). I.e. it allows industry to concentrate on finding the best way to TRICK people into desiring/purchasing something rather than forcing industry to create things which are ACTUALLY desirable.

I know it sounds whaky, but seriously... if targeted and aggregate data collection were illegal it would have amazing effects. Politics, for example, would become real overnight as folks are actually forced to THINK about what will appeal to voters rather than rely on simulation programs to build their platforms.
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DarkStar

Jan 18, 2014, 1:47 AM
So you think a tampon company should make an advertisement that appeals to men and should be put on Spike TV? That somehow doesn't make sense.
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Yama Gama

Jan 18, 2014, 11:34 AM
That's a basic fallacy, what we refer to as "reductio ad absurdum" - I think the meaning is still apparent in the latin.

Obviously, if you're producing a product, you're going to have your market in mind. What I'm saying is, what if it were illegal to "test" the market - forcing businesses to be intuitive and presumably ensuring that only those enterprises which were truly connected with the will of the people to survive.
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DarkStar

Jan 18, 2014, 1:27 PM
So you think forcing people to advertise the way you want is the right thing to do?

These companies want to advertise to the right people. Their market.
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Yama Gama

Jan 18, 2014, 1:57 PM
Do you want people to be tricking you into buying things you don't want? Because advertizers have made a science of irrational persuasion. It's the same thing as tricking children.
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DarkStar

Jan 18, 2014, 3:07 PM
I have an adult brain. I don't get tricked into buying things. Isn't this discussion about target advertising not how clever marketing companies are. We have freewill. No one can take that away. You can't trick someone into buying something.
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quinnsdaddy11

Jan 19, 2014, 11:17 AM
I agree with you, it's pretty hard unless you have some kind of developmental disability to be "tricked" into buying something you don't truly need or want. Despite every iPhone commerical I have ever seen I have never been tricked into giving Apple my money.
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DarkStar

Jan 19, 2014, 1:26 PM
I have to say though that Apple has some really good commercials. And in reality as much as I hate the iPhone, its a perfectly fine phone. Its not for me. But a lot of people enjoy the iPhone and it fits everything they need and want. I just want more than the iPhone can provide.
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Tofuchong

Jan 21, 2014, 1:21 PM
Their commercials are absurd, especially the one with the child showing his family some holiday video that we are to presume he took using a 5S. Are we to really believe that he used his $700.00 phone while outdoors sledding down a steep hill, falling into the snow? Is this the kind of usage that apple wants on their phones?

Most phone commercials are absurd, including the one for the Xperia Z, which shows somebody jumping into a pool with the phone, followed immediately by tiny print at the bottom of the sceen saying do not use in a pool.
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DarkStar

Jan 21, 2014, 3:00 PM
They are selling an experience and not a product. They are great.
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Zpike

Jan 20, 2014, 12:05 PM
I agree with Yama Gama.
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tzsm98

Jan 21, 2014, 10:24 AM
A better question to ask is
"How is a cell phone different from a dairy, day planner and travel log? Are warrants required for searches of those paper item? If so why would their electronic equivalents not require a warrant?
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Jayshmay

Jan 21, 2014, 12:17 PM
Yeah! But unfortunately this is Obama's "America" and laws don't exists, especially when it comes to the federal level, and the supreme court.
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Hays21

Jan 22, 2014, 6:25 PM
Classic Obama
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tzsm98

Jan 23, 2014, 11:46 AM
Classic Centralized State behavior. Patriot Act and all it has, along with the NSA, all predate the incumbent. There is enough blame to go around. Limiting your revulsion on this issue to the current president is myopic, at best.
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