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Sl1CK65

Nov 4, 2013, 3:03 PM
in nothing about this phone, if i didnt pick up the iphone 5s and had planned on sticking with android this would be the only phone android to consider, touchwiz and htcsence are ok but they bog down the processor so much, the N5 is finally a android that can compete with Iphone in terms of fragmention and speed of OS, i am a big believer in manufacturer overlay on the OS is what causes %90 of the fragmention in andriod, my experiance with the pure google phones is that they dont seem to have that problem, look at the moto x even with a slower processor its benchmarks beat the S4, Note 3, and HTC one, because its pure google
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Jellz

Nov 4, 2013, 4:51 PM
I like what you did with the title there, and I agree. Pure Android is the way to go, and the only type of Android phone I'd consider buying. Happy with my Lumia, though. That's really a huge plus to WP8 phones: all of them are pure Windows, with no carrier bull hokey stuff like TouchWiz or HTC Sense put in.
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Sl1CK65

Nov 4, 2013, 6:10 PM
i loved my lumia 920, had it for about 6months, just not enough apps that i unsed so had to switch back to andriod a samsung(big mistake) then remembered why i left andriod so went back to in iphone getting the 5s, but i would love to see the benchmarks on this might pick it up next fall unless they come out with a N6 im a huge phone junkie i always need a new phone one of the very few people who are unbiased towards smartphone OS's ive used them all and can admit the flaws of each(WP8 being my favorite) thats why i like IOS7 cuz its a blend of IOS6 and WP8
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DarkStar

Nov 5, 2013, 7:58 PM
Benchmarks? Really? Benchmarks? That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I have the HTC ONE and it is by far the best phone I've ever had. It's extremely fast and on Android 4.3. It blows away the iPhone in every regard. The Boom Sound speakers are the best ever. There is zero lag on the HTC ONE. Sense doesn't bog down the phone in any way shape or form.
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Zpike

Nov 4, 2013, 5:05 PM
I posted something several months ago showing why Android fragmentation is really no worse than iOS fragmentation, and also why it's stupid to talk about fragmentation on Smartphones in the first place.
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Poison Ivy

Nov 5, 2013, 9:59 AM
Link or it didn't happened. Razz
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Zpike

Nov 5, 2013, 10:15 AM
Here's a link to a good break down of actual Android fragmentation. I don't think you're going to find that iOS is much better.

http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index. ... »
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raulr

Nov 5, 2013, 1:01 PM
There isn't recent update of this chart with iOS 7 yet, but it does look much different:

http://appadvice.com/appnn/2013/06/ahead-of-wwdc-app ... »

And just because you call 4.1, 4.2, and 4.3 the same name doesn't make them the same version.

I like Android, but I think the manufacturer support from upgrading OS sucks. I'm happy with my HTC One and HTC's commitment to getting the latest OS out relatively quickly, but that is far from the norm. Next device will be a Nexus any way so I can be sure of getting the latest.
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Zpike

Nov 5, 2013, 1:22 PM
Better double check that. there are multiple versions of iOS 6 as well. Also, to discount iOS7 is would be like removing Jelly bean from the Android chart. Better get an updated chart, don't you think?
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Zpike

Nov 5, 2013, 3:58 PM
Here's how iOS fragmentation really looked in February.

http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/156165/ios-6-1-2-al ... »

But your graph hid all the different versions of iOS 6, while you had the audacity to criticize Android for multiple versions of Jelly Bean. And there are multiple versions of iOS 7 as well. And lets not forget that some devices that have iOS 7 are unable to use all of its features. And the same was also true of iOS 6. Where is all that hidden fragmentation on your chart?
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Slammer

Nov 4, 2013, 6:48 PM
The word "Fragmentation" is being abused lately. It has essentially been coined as an anti-android scheme by the same folks that brought the phrase "It just works." Much of this has been sheeple marketed into the brain cells of people.

The common mistake that people make with Android coming from ios, is that they try to treat it the same way as an Apple device. They are so vast in differences that you can't just jump into the change. And what do most people hate the most? Change. Then they wonder Android doesn't seem to live to their expectations. However, in contrast, I have colleagues that have owned every iteration of the iphone since its debut and very recently switched to Androld. While admitting a slight learning curve that brought ...
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Sl1CK65

Nov 4, 2013, 7:59 PM
i agree with your statement about switching being frustrating and a learing curve, but the same can be said about switching from andriod to iOS, for some iphone is a better phone and for others andriod is better, I've seen plenty of people that have andriod and iphone would make a better phone for them and people with Iphone when andriod would make a better phone for them, people stick with one phone for so long when the switch, they think the other cant do what the want it to do when it can its just different so they switch back, thats why i switch between all three Major OS's(iOS, Andriod, and WPCool often so when selling one i know how to best qualify customers, not just push one type that might not be best for them

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Tofuchong

Nov 4, 2013, 10:02 PM
This fragmentation talk is just ridiculos. I have an HTC G2 and a 5th Gen iPod, and the two operating systems are pretty much the damn same.

Just admit it people, they are the damn same, except one is more customizable. I see no difference in stability, all the apps that I use are available to both. On-device settings are GENERALLY the same.

At first glance, simply looking at a home screen from each OS, they look very much the same. A screen full of icons you can tap on. I see no and experience no "Fragmentation". As good as an android device is, for its memory, ram, and processor speed, 95% of the manufacturers / carriers have updated the devices to the latest version they can possibly support. Don't get upset when your 486 wont ...
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Riot Jr.

Nov 5, 2013, 3:49 PM
I agree with you, customization is what differences Android from IOS in the most part, from the common user's perspective.

But I have to dissent from one of your comments above...
My 486DX2 runs Windows XP (I have 96MB of RAM memory, yeah baby Cool )
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Sl1CK65

Nov 6, 2013, 1:46 PM
your right customization is your main difference between iOS and android,the only other real difference is the extra gimmicking gadgets that companys like Samsung, HTC, and LG like to add to there andriod phones to one up eachother, not that those gadgets are bad its just along with the full customization options on andriod your common smartphone user which is %80-%90 of them dont use those gadgets or do more customization then just change wallpaper, ringtones(most people dont even do txts tones other then the ones that come on the phone) and put apps in folders
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Zpike

Nov 7, 2013, 12:49 PM
I wish you would fragment some of that stream of consciousness into sentences with clear beginnings and endings and punctuation. Razz
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Poison Ivy

Nov 8, 2013, 4:32 PM
Zpike said:
I wish you would fragment some of that stream of consciousness into sentences with clear beginnings and endings and punctuation. Razz


Laughing

Well said.
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