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Think Twice Before Rapid Charging.

Slammer

Oct 18, 2013, 9:31 AM
The basic anode/cathode battery design hasn't changed in almost 40 years. Yes, they have managed to use different materials for the components to solve memory issues. But, with current technology, the way to increase capacity, is to increase the size. Larger batteries,will promote larger phones and larger phones need larger batteries. It's a vicious cycle.

So while many companies try to shorten charging times to appease consumer interests, rapid charging a current design battery is practically the worst thing for it. Rapid charging creates heat and heat is a battery killer. And with most insurance coverage plans omitting batteries as being "expendable" components, who will pay for the replacement? Deductables have reached $150 for hands...
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Tofuchong

Oct 18, 2013, 12:58 PM
Excellent post, I agree with everything you pointed out.

It should be an easy 2 second process to replace a battery in a phone. With all the advances in technology, one would think a removable battery would always be available. I was just thinking how people would feel if a car company made a car with a battery that was not removable / replacable without an engine replacement.

With that kind of comparison, I think it will help some people understand it a little more. True a car is not a phone, and the cost difference is large, but why would that make any sort of difference at all?
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johnhr2

Oct 18, 2013, 3:10 PM
I have the HTC One X, the battery is going to hell already, I dislike Touch Wiz (not nearly as Sense so I could live with it) but Samsung is the only Android manufacturer that lets you have a removable battery and an SD card (never getting a phone without it again).
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Slammer

Oct 18, 2013, 4:16 PM
People do not understand that batteries can affect more than just not holding a charge. Flickering screens, constant power downs and reboots, memory loss, Lagging screens during high use,sound degradation, overheating can all be attributed to failing batteries. If you bring a sealed battery device to the store, 9 times out of 10, the customer is told that it has a problem that cant be fixed and needs to be replaced. The customer is charged a high deductable and given a replacement not knowing that the battery could have been the issue. So, the customer pays at least 150 dollars but could have replaced the battery themselves for 30 if it was accessible.

This literally is a D-bag move by the manufacturers and the wireless industry. It needs...
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WhySoBluePandaBear

Oct 18, 2013, 4:39 PM
Slammer said:
People do not understand that batteries can affect more than just not holding a charge. Flickering screens, constant power downs and reboots, memory loss, Lagging screens during high use,sound degradation, overheating can all be attributed to failing batteries. If you bring a sealed battery device to the store, 9 times out of 10, the customer is told that it has a problem that cant be fixed and needs to be replaced. The customer is charged a high deductable and given a replacement not knowing that the battery could have been the issue. So, the customer pays at least 150 dollars but could have replaced the battery themselves for 30 if it was accessible.

This literally is a D-bag move by the manufacturers a
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Slammer

Oct 18, 2013, 5:12 PM
Yeah, I know. My 7 year old grand daughter must be a freakin genius. Very Happy

John B.
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Slammer

Oct 18, 2013, 5:10 PM
There are other things other than cars that removable batteries placate consumer advocacy.

Imagine the out cry if someone purchases a high end receiver such as onkyo or marantz and the remotes come with sealed batteries never to be replaced or what about expensive TVs-Does the customer have to pay 200 dollars for a new remote or go to dollar general and purchase a pack of triple A batteries?

Eric is a Musician as myself. Imagine having a high end Sennheiser wireless guitar system and the battery is sealed-Does the musician(who is already working for peanuts) carry spare batteries, or does he have to purchase a new transmitter for an already expensive rig?

Cars are a great example of how the days of backyard mechanics are done. Now t...
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Pandemic187

Oct 18, 2013, 10:38 PM
But it makes them thinner! And thinner is sexier! Drooling

^ THE ONLY argument in favor on non-removable batteries. Is that really worth it?
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Slammer

Oct 19, 2013, 6:26 AM
Well, that's the claim that manufacturers like to use and I call BS on these claims. In all reallity, size comparisons have proved that samsung may look large but it has been able to keep batteries accessible while maintaining a very thin design. For the size, it is not much thicker than handsets much smaller in dimensions that use sealed batteries.

It's all mind manipulation and propaganda.

John B.
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DarkStar

Oct 20, 2013, 1:28 PM
For this one, Slammer is right. They can absolutely make a thin phone with a removable battery.
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Zpike

Oct 21, 2013, 11:49 AM
My Galaxy S II has a removable battery and is still thinner than the iPhone.
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DarkStar

Oct 18, 2013, 9:50 PM
Yet the iPhone has a sealed battery and nobody complains about it. If you have Applecare+ then you go into the store and you get it replaced. But nobody does that because it doesnt' happen. I have the HTC ONE and the phone is flawless.
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Pandemic187

Oct 18, 2013, 10:39 PM
I'm not sure if you've heard of the term "sheep" being used to reference iPhone users, but that didn't come about for no reason.
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DarkStar

Oct 20, 2013, 1:23 PM
Really then tell me the difference in usability between an iPhone and an Android phone? What can an android phone do that an iPhone can't do?
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Doom Wolf

Oct 21, 2013, 9:13 AM
NFC
Multitasking
Widgets

Those are some to begin with.
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Slammer

Oct 21, 2013, 9:57 AM
While I'm not a gamer, my nephews have expressed the immense joy they have gaming with a larger screen on Android phones over their previous iphones.

John B.
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DarkStar

Oct 21, 2013, 11:00 AM
And I prefer a bigger screen but quite a lot of people prefer one handed use of a smartphone. And there is no way to use the galaxy s4 with one hand. It's too big for that.
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Zpike

Oct 21, 2013, 11:57 AM
That will vary just as hand size does. I have handled the GS IV and had no problem doing most things with one hand. Furthermore, I think I remember something about Apple touting how awesome multi-touch was on the original iPhone. I am still waiting for someone in the one-handed user camp to demonstrate those complicated gestures using only one hand.
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Slammer

Oct 21, 2013, 12:29 PM
You're correct and I agree that there are many people that prefer smaller screens. However, these people seem to make reference to smaller phones being compact for pockets or purses. Only two people I have heard say: "I like one hand operation." As the reason for smaller screen. I stated in another post, these two people were under 20 and have been known to be heavy text and drive offenders.

This is just my experience.

John B.
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DarkStar

Oct 21, 2013, 10:59 AM
NFC? Do you use NFC? Hardly anyone uses that.

Multitasking? Just like Android the iPhone can switch between apps too.

Now widgets I totally like and that is what I tell everyone the major difference is between the two platforms, but you have to face it, the majority of people don't even know what a widget is.
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Zpike

Oct 21, 2013, 12:05 PM
Your statement that hardly anyone uses NFC is subjective bull crap.

Calculators can switch between apps. That isn't multitasking. And iOS only allows true multitasking in a very limited capacity. It's not really multitasking in the sense that anyone who understands modern technology can appreciate. That's why Apple is constantly criticized in this regard.

People's ignorance of available features has no bearing on whether or not a device is capable of something. Most people don't know what half the crap on a Swiss Army knife is for, but that doesn't change the fact that it is much more capable than a standard pocket knife.

And I would argue that most people who buy smart phones know what widgets are. But if you think that's the big ...
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Doom Wolf

Oct 21, 2013, 12:21 PM
Zpike said:
Most people don't know what half the crap on a Swiss Army knife is for, but that doesn't change the fact that it is much more capable than a standard pocket knife.


Best comeback so far. Laughing
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DarkStar

Oct 21, 2013, 1:51 PM
How often do you use NFC?

Go right now to a mall and ask the first 10 people you eye if they use widgets. I bet 100 bucks that 9 of 10 of them have no idea what a widget is.

You have yet to explain the difference in multitasking between ios and android.

http://www.knowyourmobile.com/apple/apple/20482/ios- ... »

Read that article.
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Doom Wolf

Oct 21, 2013, 2:22 PM
You are excusing usability with knowledge.
That people may not know the term by which they're known, but I guarantee that 8 out of 10 will turn out to be widget users.

Of course, unless they're iPhone users, then 0 out of 10 will know what that is, because APPLE DOESN'T SUPPORT WIDGETS.
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Zpike

Oct 21, 2013, 4:17 PM
>>How often do you use NFC?

I don't ever use NFC because, as I've already mentioned, I have a Galaxy S II. My phone doesn't have NFC. But it's one of the many features I am looking forward to when I pick up my Note 3. And many users other than myself are already enjoying its awesomeness.

>>Go right now to a mall and ask the first 10 people you eye if they use widgets. I bet 100 bucks that 9 of 10 of them have no idea what a widget is.

Right, and how about I first find out how many of them own a smartphone. And then how about I ask them if they bought their device because they wanted a smartphone or because the salesman recommended it. I bet your same hundred bucks that not more than three of them bought the smart phone they were l...
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Doom Wolf

Oct 21, 2013, 12:18 PM
You asked, and I quote:
DarkStar said:
What can an android phone do that an iPhone can't do?


I don't recall you asking if I used them or not. And, well, the iPhone still can't do those things, whether their useful or not.

People know what a widget is, they may not know its name, but they know.
Switching between apps isn't multitasking. At least not how it is labeled by Apple.
NFC, well, as you could possibly have read so many articles about it and so much new technology related to it, it's a revolutionary tech. Though you may not like it, you can't speak for all of us. Please, just speak for yourself!

Finally, based on your "passionate" response I have to ask: why u mad bro? Eh?
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Zpike

Oct 21, 2013, 11:54 AM
Ummm. Let's see... multitasking, NFC, playback HD video, run two apps side by side, removable sotrage, replaceable battery. And those are just off the top of my head.
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Pandemic187

Oct 21, 2013, 6:29 PM
For the record, my reference to sheep was in response your statement that no iPhone users complain about removable batteries. It had nothing to do with overall usability/capability.
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Slammer

Oct 19, 2013, 6:49 AM
You're dealing with a brand new device still within manufacture warranty. My point comes from 15-18 months into use when batteries start to show its wear and are outside the warranty period.

I hope you have no problems. But, if the battery does start to wreak havoc on your device, expect to pay at least 150 dollars for replacement. Why pay this when your contract is up in 4-5 months? Under contract, you're still paying on a 700-850 phone.

What about tablets? Most are not held to the same contractual agreements or insurance. What happens when you pay 500 dollars for the tablet and the battery is toast after a year or the charging port has failed? You can purchase a new tablet, OR just remove the battery and desk top charge it or rep...
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DarkStar

Oct 20, 2013, 1:25 PM
Really because I sell cellphone 5 out of 7 days a week. And I lot of people come to me with their problems and there has been no one that has had that problem. I've sold cellphone for 12 years. Next please.
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Slammer

Oct 20, 2013, 3:48 PM
DarkStar said:
Really because I sell cellphone 5 out of 7 days a week. And I lot of people come to me with their problems and there has been no one that has had that problem. I've sold cellphone for 12 years. Next please.


What problems do they come into with? I can't dismiss the time behind the wheel you may have selling phones. However, as I stated in another post, failing batteries can be the cause of many symptoms. Overheating, Flickering or blacking out screens. Sound degradation, loss of memory, powering down and rebooting. The lagging of screens during high usage, can be caused by battery degradation."Shorted" batteries can inhibit actual powering up of a device even when connected to a charger.
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