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What should the makers of Blackberry do?

newjerseycat

Jul 25, 2005, 7:59 PM
This is design to take Blackberry customer.
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pauldg

Jul 25, 2005, 8:02 PM
This design will not really compete with BB's. Blackberry is an industry standard that IT guys have come to know and love, and they will not give it up easily. Plus, I'm not even sure this has push email
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springaf

Jul 25, 2005, 8:37 PM
Yeah, RIM shouldn't be worried at all 🤣 Get real, the treo is more commonly used in the technical industry and the only special features the Blackberry has are also on plenty of other phones. I would be selling my stock at the moment if I were foolish enough to own some. Speaking of which, their stock dropped 3.3 in one day. One day! over the last month and a half it's dropped 17+. Spirits aren't high for Research In Motion.
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nskgti

Jul 25, 2005, 10:23 PM
Doesn't have push email??? Are you SMOKING CRACK... Windows Mobile 5 will have push email that is equal to blackberry without the cost of a server. Blackberry better start making some better devices because Microsoft is gunning for them. And with devices like this, the HTC Universal and the 25 other Windows Mobile phones that will be coming out in the next year they will start to eat away at RIM's "Domination" of the wireless email market. IT guys want less work, not more. Why buy a BES when you can just run Windows Server 2k3 with a WM5 device.
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Sam K

Jul 26, 2005, 9:37 AM
nskgti said:
Doesn't have push email??? Are you SMOKING CRACK... Windows Mobile 5 will have push email that is equal to blackberry without the cost of a server. Blackberry better start making some better devices because Microsoft is gunning for them. And with devices like this, the HTC Universal and the 25 other Windows Mobile phones that will be coming out in the next year they will start to eat away at RIM's "Domination" of the wireless email market. IT guys want less work, not more. Why buy a BES when you can just run Windows Server 2k3 with a WM5 device.


nskgti has it right on the mark. There are several reasons why companies will want this device over the Blackberry. First, it runs a version o...
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scbysnx

Jul 26, 2005, 12:04 PM
something we're quickly forgetting about... security.. blackberry is still the only mobile e-mail device that the military trusts. Corporations want security more then they want their it guys to have less work. Microsoft doesn't know what security is! Blackberry isn't dead just yet this is a great solution but not a blackberry killer yet
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staiano

Jul 26, 2005, 2:28 PM
I agree scbysnx. Another thing is time to market. First to market normally wins out in the end (take Windows for example).

Blackberries are the standard corporate device. It will take lots of time and effort to switch all of the users over to a new device. How many companies you think want to buy say 50 new devices @ $500 each, when they have ALREADY bought BES.

Plus you all seem to be assuming that ALL companies already are running windows and only windows, not true anymore.

New companies making a choice may go the Moto Q route but dumping blackberries that they already have won't happen anytime soon.
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scbysnx

Jul 27, 2005, 12:58 PM
I do have to say though this is a great solution for small companies (like mine) who don't want to spend the extra money on BES and are buying say MS windows sbs and whats great about that is that there are so many different forms of phone now that run windows mobile. whereas there are 2 form factor's for blackberry's. its and ms world unfortunately unless you have the money and size to buy other things.
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DReborn

Jul 31, 2005, 5:21 AM
how would push email work if I don't have an enterprise server? Would it just work like the treo where you would manually have to download the mail?
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alexcurtis

Jul 27, 2005, 5:47 PM
Interesting how the USA Military trust their email to be relayed through a Canadian Owned and operating company. Not sure how much the military trusts the Blackberry solution even thought it is FIPS certified.
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scbysnx

Jul 27, 2005, 8:27 PM
They use it exclusively for wireless e-mail I'd say thats a pretty big trust
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outsideAG

Jul 31, 2005, 2:25 AM
Yes, Blackberry has end-to-end encryption, which puts it ahead of most cell phones, but this doesn't give them any competitive advantage against the major smartphone platforms.

Both Windows Mobile and Symbian have browsers that support SSL/TLS for HTTPS web browsing. Nokia's built in email client supports TLS for authentication.
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phillyslickster

Jul 26, 2005, 7:00 AM
RIM definitely has a lot to worry about. I currently use the Blackberry 7100g with Cingular and I'm sick and tired of the outages and/or slow response time from the BES. It is getting ridiculous and RIM has no comments.

If NTP gets what they want while this settlement is pending, which I don't think will happen, to have the selling and use of BB's in the US to stop until the settlement of this lawsuit. During the course of this settlement, RIM's stock will continue to take a nose dive.

There are many companies out there trying to get the edge on BB with the push email. With this lawsuit, BB hasn't been able to do any new production, so that gives these other companies the time to get their thing together. Soon BB won't have the edg...
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justinwilliams

Jul 26, 2005, 9:35 AM
It does have push email. Push email is intregrated in Windows Mobile 5.0
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muchdrama

Jul 26, 2005, 12:34 PM
pauldg said:
This design will not really compete with BB's. Blackberry is an industry standard that IT guys have come to know and love, and they will not give it up easily. Plus, I'm not even sure this has push email



Or be reliable. 😉
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