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It's less of an upgrade program

Jellz

Jul 16, 2013, 7:51 AM
and more of a trade-in program. It says in the fine print that your phone has to be in good condition to qualify. And after 12 months, you've already paid off more than half of the full retail price of the phone.
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Haggard

Jul 16, 2013, 8:41 AM
I'll assume the price plans aren't going to be changed either, so we're still paying for the device even after paying off the phone.
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sectime

Jul 16, 2013, 9:12 AM
Another inaccurate news story about jump. The $10 so called fee includes insurance, and is $2.00 cheaper than the old insurance only program.
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Versed

Jul 16, 2013, 10:40 AM
True but you are forced to take it. I never insure my phones. Fine if you want to. So for me that would tack on $240 over the next two years.
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sectime

Jul 16, 2013, 10:52 AM
How are you forced to take it? Just don't use it,
just like AT&T plan.
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Tofuchong

Jul 16, 2013, 10:55 AM
You aren't, the Jump program is voluntary. You don't need to take it, it's not forced on you.
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LibtardExposer

Jul 16, 2013, 4:16 PM
And most people are paying the fee and thus making them more $$$ in the end! You pay over and over again for this so called subsidy people just keep drinking the Koolaid and believe anything the Ceo's of the cult of fanboys tell them.
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Haggard

Jul 16, 2013, 4:29 PM
Haven't been locked down in a contract for 3 years now. I just turn around and sell my previous device and pay off the rest for the new one. No way am I trading it in for this program when I can get $150-300 more on eBay.
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KOL4420

Jul 16, 2013, 11:28 AM
Well Tmobiles Jump requires a phone in good condition as well, if not then you pay a deductible plus the $10 Fee per month on top of the cost of the downpayment on the phone you selected plus the monthly fee's for that phone as well along with the $70 unlimited plan. So in reality these little fee's add up and youll end up paying just as much as you would with a plan on ATT and Verizon. People also fail to recognize you are buying the phone at full retail cost we arent talking about $300 we are talking $600+ Phones are just going to keep getting more expensive.

So to do the math $70 x 24

$1680

$20 x 24 plus the downpayment for w.e phone lets use the iPhone 5 $149.99

$629.99
=== Grand total assuming you dont JUMP is $2309 Prior...
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acdc1a

Jul 16, 2013, 12:00 PM
BS!

Most people keep their handsets at least 1 year. If you buy an unlocked GSIII for $350 on EBay, your total for 1 year at T Mobile is $950. At AT&T or Verizon it's $1,300 plus you still have a year left on your contact. At Sprint it's $1,060 and you still have year on your contact. If you keep a phone 2 years it's an even bigger savings.
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Jellz

Jul 16, 2013, 12:24 PM
I'd just like to say, if you buy the unlocked phone and don't go on prepaid, you deserve the higher rate.

A year with AT&T on the $60/month plan for unlimited talk/text and 2 GB of data is $720.
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acdc1a

Jul 16, 2013, 1:01 PM
On T-Mobile you wouldn't have to go on prepaid. Take a look friends, this is the future of wireless. People are getting wise...finally.
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Jayshmay

Jul 16, 2013, 1:22 PM
Bout damn time!!!!! I like this device program stuff!
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KOL4420

Jul 16, 2013, 1:13 PM
Thats what I am talking about... DONT BUY regular priced phones from carriers you get raped there is no savings there.
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KOL4420

Jul 16, 2013, 1:57 PM
Any plan with 500MB of data is useless for a smart phone and 2GB of data you might as well stay on Verizon or ATT for better coverage anyways. Tmobiles coverage is super spotty and useless in doors.

Also we arent talking about 1 year we are talking pricing comparison for a 2 year contract vs No contract on Tmobile or ATT plans with the purchase of a phone from them at full retail price. No Savings what so ever compared to a 2 year contract.
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T Bone

Jul 16, 2013, 12:37 PM
The price of rate plans is not based on and has nothing to do with the price of the device... And truthfully, a customer who pays his monthly bills on time will pay back more tnan the cost of the device he uses within the first year of a contract, or depending on the rate plan, he could pay back as much 5-6 times the cost of the device within those first 6 months, even on the more expensive phones. On a minimal rate for the iPhone 5, 450 minutes for $39.99, 300 MB data for $20 and $20 unlimited text plan...will pay back more than $950 in the first year, NOT includes fees......increase the size of the data or voice plan and at&t's return could easily be double or triple the cost of even the most expensive phones within that first year alon...
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Haggard

Jul 16, 2013, 12:42 PM
In regards to your monthly bill.

"In addition to paying the full price of the phone over the monthly installments, AT&T Next customers also have to pay the same service plan rate they had been paying -- a rate that was designed to work with subsidized phones. When T-Mobile introduced its no-contract monthly installment plan, it cut the rate of its plan to reflect the lack of a subsidy"

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57593984-94/t-mobil ... »
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freek1989

Jul 16, 2013, 7:45 PM
yeah but remeber that the first phone before the att next is already on a two year so you such cant get dicount on the rate plan. 🤤
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DarkStar

Jul 16, 2013, 3:03 PM
Do you even understand how business works. That 4-5 times the retail price of the phone that the companies are making also have a cost associated with them. They have rent on buildings to pay, employees to pay, and a host of other bills they have to pay. The price of the monthly bill on a contract also includes the subsidy of the phone. Read this article.

https://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=12102 »
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LibtardExposer

Jul 16, 2013, 4:11 PM
Ever heard of tax right offs? I guess you forgot to mention the cost of doing business is a big right off on their taxes.
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LibtardExposer

Jul 16, 2013, 4:14 PM
Also considering the true price the company pays for a phone is not what they are charing at retail considering it cost very little money to make a phone the price is so exaggerated by the time it hit's the retail market. I mean it's so funny seeing verizon and att charging quite a bit more on a retail phone price than let's say a smaller company like us cellular..... You are right they make there money back very quick considering the big markup that you are paying in the first place.
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WhySoBluePandaBear

Jul 16, 2013, 8:39 PM
Um, no. Samsung and Apple may be making the profits on the manufacturing processes, but it's NOT ATT or Verizon.

The carriers lose a substantial amount of money every time they subsidize a phone - don't be clueless and be led to believe that they only paid pennies on the dollar for the phone, then mark it up to make you believe it's really what they paid.
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ceric20

Jul 17, 2013, 6:40 AM
All this is.... is the first step to ending subsiding phones.... All the major carriers have wanted to do this for a while... This is going to make it happen!
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dalius_maximus

Jul 17, 2013, 10:28 AM
I've been wondering if maybe they were going to attempt to change models all together, just in phases. Clearly they want to push people towards this NEXT program since they've extended the upgrade period from 20 months to 24. I wonder if the overarching goal is to shepherd people towards the monthly installments and then remove the subsidy. Sort of like a step-by-step conversion of the charge model. It would be essentially the same thing T-Mobile has done, just in a less radical time frame. This, of course, is what I and most everyone else would like to see occur; however, I acknowledge that it is more likely that they will greedily keep the subsidized charge model in addition to the monthly installment model. A guy can hope though, right...
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