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I'd like to be the 1st to say....

sp_5015

Jul 5, 2013, 6:38 PM
Let the games begin Shocked
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Jayshmay

Jul 6, 2013, 9:31 AM
This is big news! I'm shocked that your the only one who posted on this!

Hopefully both T-Mobile & Sprint will provide some competitive pressure to the big two with all the changes going on with both companies.
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sp_5015

Jul 6, 2013, 10:11 AM
Seriously!! I thought there would be a lot more chatter. There's not even one "sprint will probably screw it up" comment. haha. I'm really curious to see what Softbank does...
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Jayshmay

Jul 6, 2013, 10:22 AM
We'll probably know by October/November, I'm just saying that causes it's been more than a month since the Tmo/Metro merger closed and not much has been announced there. So I think it'll be a few months before we'll know much.

I just hope Softbank will have a cultural change in Sprint not just a financial change.

The U.S. market can always use some influence from Europe (DT/T-Mobile) & Japan (Softbank)!
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Sin City

Jul 6, 2013, 10:42 AM
I'm at a point where I can't get excited until everything is finalized, especially with Monday's shareholders vote.
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Riot_Act

Jul 6, 2013, 4:00 PM
Douchebag Telekom was just trying to get rid of T-Mo. So they merged with an smaller company who agreed to purchase T-Mo from them as soon as they started making some money.

The merger will be good for both companies, T-Mobile has good products/services, however a major investment is needed if they seriously want to compete with the big 2. They are doing good however. Softbank will make big changes on sprint, I'm sure, and we will not have to wait too long to see it (I'm talking about positive changes).
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Downscripting

Jul 7, 2013, 6:07 AM
Riot_Act said:
Douchebag Telekom was just trying to get rid of T-Mo. So they merged with an smaller company who agreed to purchase T-Mo from them as soon as they started making some money.

The merger will be good for both companies, T-Mobile has good products/services, however a major investment is needed if they seriously want to compete with the big 2. They are doing good however. Softbank will make big changes on sprint, I'm sure, and we will not have to wait too long to see it (I'm talking about positive changes).


Cool post bro
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KOL4420

Jul 8, 2013, 1:55 PM
Hahaha. Well Sprint wont screw it up this time. Razz They have Softbank to tell them how to get things done right. Super excited to see this unfold so happy Dish got owned on this one. Had they won Spring would have sunk to last place no doubt.
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DarkStar

Jul 9, 2013, 2:27 PM
Actually Dish won. Clear wanted a higher price and they talked with Dish to get Sprint to up their bid.
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T Bone

Jul 6, 2013, 9:48 PM
Well...before Sprint and T-Mobile can 'apply competitive pressure' they first have to become profitable...and frankly becoming profitable will likely require two things:

1. offer more than just mobile phone service

The reason why at&t and Verizon make money is because they offer more than just mobile, they also offer home phone, internet and television....and it is really the bundles that keep them afloat...the fact of the matter is that it is really difficult to make a profit just from selling phone service, which is why the original at&t monopoly was created in the first place

2. They will probably have to change their policies to be more like Verizon and at&t...

Everybody hates the so called 'hidden fees' and whatnot they're ...
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Jayshmay

Jul 6, 2013, 10:08 PM
Not everyone lives someplace that ATT & Vzn offers home phone & Internet service.

So your suggesting Sprint & T-Mobile raise their prices, . . .and offer LESS to be more like the Big 2?

Both Sprint & T-Mobile are the only carriers remaining that offer unlimited (usable) data.

Offering unlimited data, and someone using 10-12gb's/mo doesn't hurt a network, there are people who actually know how to use & take advantage of a smartphones capabilities on all networks, been doing it for years on both Clear (Wimax) & Sprint without adversely effecting the network.

I don't encourage being more like the Big 2.
If Sprint & T-Mobile could get their churn down, their revenues & profits would go up.
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Slammer

Jul 7, 2013, 7:53 AM
It's funny how society works. We are like animals that travel in herds. Everyone goes to certain places because everyone else seems to go to these same places. It ensures "comfort" in knowing they are not alone.

Verizon and AT&T have successfully instilled the marketing to consumers that they have coverage everywhere the population needs it. The population has been sheeple marketed to believe that this is the most important aspect of cell service. Who wants to be out of service? But here's a an interesting aspect pertaining to the geographical landscape of cell users. Almost 65% of the population( I'm being conservative here), does not need or will ever use that much coverage. if they do, it is generally randomly temporary.

My retire...
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DarkStar

Jul 7, 2013, 1:50 PM
So first you say that Sprint has enough coverage and then say that they need to increase their coverage and then say its just perception? Which one of these three is it?

And their customer service has increased? Seeing as I sell sprint everyday and have to deal with customer who have had bad experience I can verify that their customer service has gotten better and is still not good.
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gloopey1

Jul 7, 2013, 2:24 PM
DarkStar said:
So first you say that Sprint has enough coverage and then say that they need to increase their coverage and then say its just perception? Which one of these three is it?

And their customer service has increased? Seeing as I sell sprint everyday and have to deal with customer who have had bad experience I can verify that their customer service has gotten better and is still not good.

You do? And we all know this...how? Oh yeah, Just call Sprint and ask for "DarkStar."

LOL! Dude, are you serious?
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Slammer

Jul 7, 2013, 8:41 PM
I apologize if you did not understand my post.

I specifically implied that people have the perception that the smaller carriers have no service everywhere they may go. I clearly stated that consumers need to veer away from the feeling that only Verizon and AT&T will work for them when in fact, they may not need all the coverage that is offered through these two carriers. Thus saving them money.

I don't work for any carrier. I am a consumer that could choose any carrier I care to. I have had zero issues with Sprint in the ten years I've been a customer of them so your opinion won't sway mine. In fact, when my wife and I ran into financial problems due to her accident, Sprint worked with us every step of the way to make sure reasonabl...
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DarkStar

Jul 8, 2013, 3:53 PM
I am first and foremost a consumer. I sell and have sold all the the carriers. And I have heard many stories from all the carriers. I have had my bad experiences with Sprint as a consumer and as a sales person. Its good that you have a positive view from your experience with Sprint. I know many disgruntled customers from sprint. But of course I know many disgruntled customers of Verizon, AT&T, T-mobile, Metro PCS, and all the other carriers.

Just because you've had a good experience with Sprint doesn't mean that everyone does. For every good story you have I have 1 or more bad stories.

I want Sprint to do well. Verizon and AT&T needs more competition. I do think the Softbank buyout is going to be great for Sprint and for Spr...
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Slammer

Jul 8, 2013, 4:50 PM
You're correct. I do not know you. But as a Salesman myself and a service technician, my job is to make sure the customer is the beneficiary of a great sale or service. My trained eyes and ears, focused on your demeener that came off as rather abrasive towards one of the carriers you sell. I fear that this could have a negative consequence of mismatching an improper sale to a consumer. There is a difference between being brutally honest in a sale vs being a great salesman that has the tools of info placed in front of the customer. This allows the customer to make the sale which is best for them.

Everyone has bad experiences no matter what industry. But, they also have great experiences. Sadly, much of the bad comes from poor sales compa...
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DarkStar

Jul 8, 2013, 5:39 PM
As a sales person you should know that people want what they want. They want that piece of mind. Thats why people buy protection plans and insurance. That is why I still have verizon customers complaining about keeping their unlimited data even though they only use about half a gigabyte of data on average. People want piece of mind. People want to know that their phone will work where ever they go. I was in the mountains one day in California and my Sprint and AT&T phones didn't work but my Verizon phone does work.

People also want great customer service and unfortunately Sprint doesn't compete with the other carriers.

I understand it now. You are a Sprint fanboy. You don't like it when somebody bad mouths your precious Sprint. ...
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gloopey1

Jul 9, 2013, 9:39 AM
... I was in the mountains one day in California and my Sprint and AT&T phones didn't work but my Verizon phone does work...So how is that being against Sprint?...

Laughing
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DarkStar

Jul 9, 2013, 9:57 AM
Troll
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WiWavelength

Jul 9, 2013, 10:58 AM
DarkStar said:
I was in the mountains one day in California and my Sprint and AT&T phones didn't work but my Verizon phone does work.


Sprint has a nationwide roaming agreement with VZW. Anywhere that VZW has CDMA2000 service, so does Sprint. Thus, the most likely explanation is that you failed to enable your roaming settings properly.

AJ
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DarkStar

Jul 9, 2013, 2:34 PM
Is that so? When was the agreement reached?
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WiWavelength

Jul 9, 2013, 4:39 PM
DarkStar said:
Is that so? When was the agreement reached?


Absolutely so. Sprint has had nationwide roaming -- both in market and out of market -- on VZW for roughly the last decade.

AJ
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DarkStar

Jul 9, 2013, 5:55 PM
That is quite interesting. Too bad sprint doesn't know about that. Maybe you should let them know.
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Slammer

Jul 9, 2013, 6:27 PM
Sprint absolutely knows. So does the other carriers. What you most likely will see in any of these carrier's cases, is what I call a Territorial Threshold. I'm sure this is not the technical term but I use it because it makes it easier to ingest. I welcome WiWavelength or Cellstudent to correct any misinformation here or following statement.

It is the goal of any carrier to keep their subs on its own network as long as possible at the last possible second to prevent roaming on another carrier. You experiencing no service is the point of the threshhold where the device is picking up just enough signal to keep it locked in but no calls or data can be used. This allows the user to either re-enter the native coverage zone or move forward in h...
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DarkStar

Jul 12, 2013, 4:16 PM
Maybe you should tell this guy about how great Sprint coverage is.

http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/discuss.php?fm=m& ... »
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WiWavelength

Jul 10, 2013, 8:48 AM
DarkStar said:
That is quite interesting. Too bad sprint doesn't know about that. Maybe you should let them know.


What are you talking about? Roaming agreements do not miraculously sprout overnight. They require cooperation from both parties involved.

That you were unaware of Sprint's longstanding national roaming agreement with VZW demonstrates your lack of knowledge in this arena. As a suggestion, defer to people who have greater expertise than you do.

AJ
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DarkStar

Jul 12, 2013, 4:16 PM
Thats funny that you say that because nobody at VZW knows about this agreement and nobody within Sprint knows about this agreement either. I have even emailed Dan Hesse and someone from his office that they have no roaming agreement with Verizon.
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Slammer

Jul 9, 2013, 12:34 PM
---" I was in the mountains one day in California and my Sprint and AT&T phones didn't work but my Verizon phone does work."---

I travel to the Adirondack Mountains once a year. I do not get Sprint in certain parts of the region unless there is Verizon. However, 'm not going to spend several hundred extra dollars a year just to have service for one week in these areas, so I roam. The particular place I go doesn't even have Verizon, So I purchase a throw away TracFone for 20 bucks. It uses AT&T's network there. Imagine the savings here.

Also, I'm not a defined "Fanboi" of any carrier. I simply shopped and found Sprint works for my needs without spending huge dollars vs the larger carriers. I do think very highly of Sprint. I know what ...
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DarkStar

Jul 9, 2013, 2:49 PM
That is great that for one person it works. In my area they have no 4G. So for anyone who wants high speed data Sprint is out. If someone doesn't want data then there is PayLo phones.

If Sprint works so well for you then why don't you use Virgin Mobile. No contract and $25 cheaper. So much for financially smart.

Not to mention that Sprint doesn't work well in buildings at this point. However, we all know that is going to change once they use the 800mhz spectrum.

I don't know why you don't understand that what I am saying is that they will get better. The softbank buyout and the dissolution of Nextel and the clearwire take over is a good thing
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Slammer

Jul 9, 2013, 5:58 PM
---" I don't know why you don't understand that what I am saying is that they will get better."---

Because you have ignored a fact. You have abrasively and consistantly been on the attack of a company that has roughly 52 million customers and yet feel I am the only one that has endured great service through this company. This tells me that you are on a mission to vision every customer dropping a company that has effectively kept much needed competiton in line.

We need to increase this competitve edge to bring overall affordability to communication. Cheerleading for the big guys, plays right into their hands. You said it yourself. You "first and foremost are a consumer". So take the wireless industry out of the picture and ask how you ...
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DarkStar

Jul 9, 2013, 7:08 PM
No I am on this forum talking bad about Sprint. What maybe 10 to 20 people have read this? That is not being on a mission to discredit Sprint.

And right at this moment who is Sprint competition for? They have a quarter of the subscribers that AT&T and Verizon have combined. They have what? 13 percent of the American population. That is not competition.

However, the company has gotten better and their customer service has come up a lot. 10 years ago their customer service wasn't worth anything. Dan Hesse has done a lot to increase the customer service level. And again with Softbank and Clearwire, Sprint can only go up. So how is saying that things going to be better for Sprint being on a mission?
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DarkStar

Jul 9, 2013, 4:34 PM
Once again Sprint customer service strikes again. Sprint does have the best customer serivce in the world. I had a customer who wanted to do an alternate upgrade so we called sprint customer service to transfer the phones over and they said, "ok let me put you on hold." Maybe the hold button is right next to the transfer button because we were transfered and then the new person didn't know what to do. #Sprintfail
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