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MadFatMan

Jun 29, 2013, 9:45 AM
I am so glad that the days of listening to people beeping in walmart at full volume has come to a close
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Downscripting

Jun 29, 2013, 11:41 AM
MadFatMan said:
I am so glad that the days of listening to people beeping in walmart at full volume has come to a close


^^ Like
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TheNexxuvas

Jun 29, 2013, 2:13 PM
SDC works exactly like NDC, except diff network, and it sounds the same as well, Beep Beep not going away.
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gloopey1

Jun 29, 2013, 11:12 PM
TheNexxuvas said:
SDC works exactly like NDC, except diff network, and it sounds the same as well, Beep Beep not going away.

Shh! Don't tell anyone that. Let them bask in their ignorance. Seriously, where are the complaints from these same people about traditional two-way Radios, which are just as loud and have constant chatter going on all the time? Just about every big store uses them, and none have privacy features.
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cellphonesaretools

Jun 30, 2013, 1:57 PM
MadFatMan said:
I am so glad that the days of listening to people beeping in walmart at full volume has come to a close


gloopey1 said:
... Seriously, where are the complaints from these same people about traditional two-way Radios, which are just as loud and have constant chatter going on all the time? Just about every big store uses them, and none have privacy features.


There is no doubt that when Nextel had 16,000,000 customers and Boost had another 3,000,000, there were a lot more full-volume PTT conversations to be heard.

That said, the problem was the clueless/inconsiderate individuals using the devices in that way. Nextel went to great lengths to make certain th...
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Zpike

Jun 30, 2013, 6:51 PM
Actually, a speakerphone was a common feature on non-PTT phones in Nextel's time. Speaker phones where common features on wire-line phones long before cell phones, and were common features used by most people. Cellphone manufacturers had no problems including the already accepted technology on candybar, clamshell, and slider devices.
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cellphonesaretools

Jul 1, 2013, 1:03 AM
Zpike said:
Actually, a speakerphone was a common feature on non-PTT phones in Nextel's time. Speaker phones where common features on wire-line phones long before cell phones, and were common features used by most people. Cellphone manufacturers had no problems including the already accepted technology on candybar, clamshell, and slider devices.


Yes, speakerphones were common on landlines at the time, but not common on most cellphones in the early 2000s (which was Nextel's heyday). I had plenty of friends & relatives with flip-phones & bar-phones on Verizon, ATT and T-Mo that did NOT have speakerphone capability, whereas ALL Nextels had it, owing to the PTT feature if nothing else.
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phooey73

Jul 1, 2013, 6:28 PM
That is simply not true. Nokia, Motorola, Sony, LG, Samsung,and Sanyo were major manfacturers for Verizon and Sprint. As a reseller sprint agent and call center rep in 2000 for verizon while they still in their regional plans. The speakerphone was on flip and candybar phones. Sanyo oldest phones had excellent speakers on their phone you could sit on the desk in 2001 on sprint and have conversations across large rooms. i could talk to my mom at that time while folding laundry 20 ft away in college.

2001 also started hand free laws sparked by NY. 2002 had bluetooth as well for these states that had to be installed for hand free kits. as i had many ne region customers crying for getting tickets and verizon was making a killing on the NE ...
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Zpike

Jul 2, 2013, 2:25 AM
Dude,you can use the phone finder on this site to look at phones from the time if you like. You'll find that speaker phones were very common. In fact, one of the most common phones of that era was the RAZR and it had a full-duplex speaker phone. The fact that none of your friends were smart enough to purchase a phone with a speakerphone doesn't change anything. To suggest that cellphone manufacturers borrowed the idea of a speakerphone (which existed long before Nextel) from Nextel is ridiculous, if not uninformed.
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gloopey1

Jul 2, 2013, 3:55 AM
The difference is a lot of phones and owners had them, but many didn't. I don't think it's even possible to buy any phone nowadays without this feature. In 2003, lots of phones, like the Nokia 5100 series, didn't have them.

Lots of cameras were color back in the 60s, but most folks still used black and white.
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Zpike

Jul 2, 2013, 10:59 PM
So, what's your point? I don't get it. For you to say that speaker phones were inspired by Nextel, there would have had to be none before Nextel. The fact that they were common in Nextel's time suffices to prove that is not so. Every phone need not have that feature, and the fact that the most popular phone on the planet by a landslide had the feature kills the argument entirely. Are you really trying to say anything?
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cellphonesaretools

Jul 2, 2013, 9:09 AM
Zpike said:
Dude,you can use the phone finder on this site to look at phones from the time if you like. You'll find that speaker phones were very common. In fact, one of the most common phones of that era was the RAZR and it had a full-duplex speaker phone. The fact that none of your friends were smart enough to purchase a phone with a speakerphone doesn't change anything. To suggest that cellphone manufacturers borrowed the idea of a speakerphone (which existed long before Nextel) from Nextel is ridiculous, if not uninformed.


You have completely misinterpreted, and read into this things I never wrote, nor implied.
1) I never stated Nextel was the only mfgr with speakerphone. I said all Nextels had speake...
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dalius_maximus

Jul 2, 2013, 1:20 PM
I love quality debate Smile
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DarkStar

Jul 2, 2013, 2:50 PM
I would just like to point out that while reading these posts I totally understood what you said. You said early 2000's and you are right. I remember starting to sell phones in 2003 and hardly any of them had speakerphones.
And when the person started to talk about the RAZR I was like wait a minute. That was out way later than the early 2000's.

Some people don't know how to read I guess.
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dalius_maximus

Jul 2, 2013, 2:59 PM
I remember when that RAZR came out; I was still in highschool. Everyone and their grandmother was getting one of those bad boys. In fact, I work for ATT now and I still see accounts that are actively using one of them. If a cellphone lasts 8+ years, that's a bad mother. Just sayin. And I remember everywhere you went, malls, thrift shops, everywhere you saw cases of every style for them. I'd like to see the national sales numbers for the 2004 RAZR in fact.
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DarkStar

Jul 2, 2013, 3:24 PM
That is the funny thing about that phone. There are a lot of people who swear by them. But I've also heard of cases where the phone would simply fall apart. But that is the way it is in the electronics world. For some people things just break down.

I have a theory that everyone has their own magnetic field and the difference in magnetic fields cause electronics to work better for some people and worse for others.
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dalius_maximus

Jul 2, 2013, 3:48 PM
No doubt. lol

Now that you mention it, I do recall seeing a lot of the RAZRs with cracked screens. I wonder what kind of glass they used at the time; probably not Guerilla Glass 2, eh?

If your theory is true, I'm locking my wife outside. If she comes within a few feet of a cellphone, you might as well get ready to do a master reset and call your nearest warranty center. haha She has terrible luck.
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Zpike

Jul 3, 2013, 12:17 AM
I sold phones for all four major carriers in the RAZR's heyday (including Nextel). It was ATT and T-Mobile first and then Verizon, and obviously Sprint was last to the party. I also refurbished phones and could completely disassemble a RAZR in less than a minute. I took apart countless RAZR phones and can attest that the hardware was much less than spectacular. You wouldn't know it, but the failure rate of those devices was astounding, especially the screens, boards, charger ports, flex cables, and batteries. If you know someone who has had one for more than 8 years and never had a replacement, they are truly fortunate. From the same time period, the Nokia phones were actually the best built as a whole. And that's coming from someone who ser...
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cellphonesaretools

Jul 2, 2013, 11:08 PM
dalius_maximus said:
I remember when that RAZR came out; I was still in highschool. Everyone and their grandmother was getting one of those bad boys. In fact, I work for ATT now and I still see accounts that are actively using one of them. If a cellphone lasts 8+ years, that's a bad mother. Just sayin. And I remember everywhere you went, malls, thrift shops, everywhere you saw cases of every style for them. I'd like to see the national sales numbers for the 2004 RAZR in fact.


The Razr was indeed an iconic phone in its day, and for its time I'd bet it had comparatively huge sales numbers.

re: "If a cellphone lasts 8+ years, that's a bad mother. Just sayin."
>>>That's true. We had a Moto i55sr that was ...
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Zpike

Jul 3, 2013, 12:06 AM
First of all take a chill pill. Second of all, I don't think I misinterpreted you at all. Perhaps you misspoke.

>> I never stated Nextel was the only mfgr with speakerphone.

No, but you said this "Yes, speakerphones were common on landlines at the time, but not common on most cellphones in the early 2000s" But that's a fabrication. The burden of proof of this statement is on you, and since the truth can be ascertained on this very website, you should be able to produce it.

>> I never stated anyone else borrowed the idea from Nextel.

But if that's not what you were driving at, then why did you say this, "Back in Nextel's heyday, most other cell-phones had no speakerphone capability, so the majority of the public kept their flip-ph...
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cellphonesaretools

Jul 3, 2013, 1:54 AM
I do agree with several of your points in the long diatribe you posted above (timestamped 07/02/2013 at 10:06 PM), but given that you've also misinterpreted and twisted some things out or proportion, I can't let those things pass without correction:

re: "All I have assigned to you is what you have said. Excuse me if it doesn't make sense."
>>>Wrong, and here's the proof of that:

Misinterpretation #1:
ME: "Back in Nextel's heyday, most other cell-phones had no speakerphone capability..."
YOU: "To suggest that cellphone manufacturers borrowed the idea of a speakerphone (which existed long before Nextel) from Nextel is ridiculous, if not uninformed."
>>>>>Say what? How did you make THAT leap? That leap was YOU assignin...
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Versed

Jul 7, 2013, 12:54 AM
Sad day in the trailer parks of America, oh the humanity.
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