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Verizon Confirms It Will Sell the HTC One

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KOL4420

Jun 3, 2013, 11:56 AM
I am amazed I didnt know Verizon didnt sell the HTC One. o.O They are probably still jaded about how poorly their HTC phone models sold x.x
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Tofuchong

Jun 3, 2013, 12:30 PM
Well I mean what did they expect? HTC phones are going in the wrong direction.. no memory card? Non-removable battery? I wouldn't buy those phones either. And the Droid DNA having only 16GB with a 1080p screen? I don't even think that's enough storage space for a full length uncompressed high-deff 1080p movie! Big fail there too.
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Rich Brome

Jun 3, 2013, 12:42 PM
Tofuchong said:
Well I mean what did they expect? HTC phones are going in the wrong direction.. no memory card? Non-removable battery? I wouldn't buy those phones either.

Those things don't seem to have hurt sales of the iPhone. Nor the HTC One, for that matter.
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Tofuchong

Jun 3, 2013, 12:53 PM
Maybe not initially, however I do forsee HTC losing more money in warranty exchanges than anybody who has a Galaxy S 4. Lots of people I know personally have asked me which phone to get... I simply can't recommend the HTC one, I just cant. Based on what else you can get for the same amount of money, it's just not a good phone to get.

iPhone is in a separate category, as "informed" consumers usually don't go for that device.
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trey1475

Jun 3, 2013, 1:07 PM
Verizon had every opportunity to get the HTC One on launch but decided against it because they wanted to continue to promote their Droid lineup like the Droid DNA and Droid Incredible 4g. Verizon is so hell bent on controlling every damn thing. In the end it ended up biting them in the ass because the HTC One is HTC's best selling smart phone to date. Thats the only reason why Verizon is trying to get the phone on their network.

Verizon has to realize that phone manufacturers are moving away from making devices that are exclusive to carriers. Its better for the device manufacturers to make a few models that are on all of the carriers. That way they can put money for promotion towards a few devices instead of splitting their promotion ef...
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Slammer

Jun 3, 2013, 1:28 PM
---" Those things don't seem to have hurt sales of the iPhone. Nor the HTC One, for that matter."---

Maybe Rich, but the iPhone has been riding on brand name and I'm seeing a change. It's also "those things" that seem to be helping Samsung. I know of several diehard Apple fans that have recently switched to the Galaxy line and absolutely loving them. Popularity was a reason but also the realization that removable batteries just make sense. Here's why:

We can debate this all day. I personally will not own a phone without removable battery no matter how long it lasts on a charge. 51% of people polled on votes regarding this, agree with me. After 15-18 months of constant use, the battery severely loses its ability to hold a charge. This ...
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KOL4420

Jun 3, 2013, 2:13 PM
Although these are all concerns of mine when shopping for a new phone I do not believe this is something that everyone needs or wants on their phones. Hence why the iPhone has had so much success not just because of the name but because how it performed im sure if the iPhones operating system was bugging and those built in batteries were failing often then it would be a much different story.

Most consumers just want a phone with a long lasting battery life, excellent screen, and a operating system that works without any bugs or lag.


I believe HTC One and the Lumia line of windows phones that do not have a removable battery and additional storage fits the needs of the majority of all consumers for most will only be using the camera,...
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Slammer

Jun 3, 2013, 4:22 PM
---" The battery seems to be more dependable and longer lasting than any previous built in battery phones so I think they got it right with the HTC One considering it comes with 32GB of internal storage."---

No offense, but The HTC ONE could not have got it right because HTC doesn't make the batteries. Battery operating designs haven't changed all the much to eliminate fail rate. Not to mention that the ONE hasn't had much time behind the wheel yet. It's brand new. The physical designs of batteries may have changed as far as size and shape to accommodate the phones, but the same ingredients are present that make the battery work. Again, getting more hours of usage time "per charge" does not fix the problem.

Consumers are not the most t...
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KOL4420

Jun 3, 2013, 4:54 PM
Sorry your right my response was vague I was referencing the type of battery that is found inside the HTC One it is a much powerful battery and more efficient in combination with the type of battery saving modes they now have available on the devices. I was comparing them to the EVO LTE battery size and the type of operating system which on that phone was designed to drain battery and had a weaker battery which would lead to the battery having to be replaced more often due to customers having to charge battery more frequently. Lithium ion batteries only have so many charges before they have to be replaced.

I am not a tech geek when it comes to batteries but I assume that makes a huge difference when it comes to the longevity of a battery...
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Slammer

Jun 3, 2013, 5:12 PM
Batteries are good for about 550- 650 cycles. This does not take into consideration rapid charging, power users which cause batteries to run hotter, and the charging at night whether it needs it or not. Hence why batteries in phones will typically only last a year and a half. Li-on batteries are definitely tolerant of half charges as opposed to Ni-Cad, but frequent charging is best preferred "IF" slow charged. Charging from almost dead state, gives the anode and cathode time to heat which shortened the lifespan.

Heat is the largest killer of batteries. Once someone feels the phone heat up, the damage has started.

John B.
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KOL4420

Jun 3, 2013, 5:28 PM
Thank you for that information. I have a Note 2 and it is constantly running hot now that the temperature has rised here in California. Will be paying better attention to my battery.
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DarkStar

Jun 3, 2013, 6:35 PM
Actually the best thing for lithium batteries is to keep them plugged in as long as possible. Charging the battery when the phone is at 95 percent does not count as a full charge cycle. It counts as 5 percent of a charge cycle.

Also even though you personally have seen people go from the iPhone to Android phones the studies show that iPhone adoption is only growing while Android adoption is slowing.

And only 10% of people polled wanted a removable battery.

And Android doesn't allow apps to be put on expandable memory. So expandable memory isn't as useful as you claim.
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Slammer

Jun 3, 2013, 8:06 PM
What?

Android certainly does allow many apps to be stored to the memory card. Also, do not get ROM and RAM confused. ROM is typically the memory to store the primary info to allow the phone to know what's on it. RAM is where the rubber meets the pavement. It is the memory used when called upon to operate the apps or programs stored onto it. I have about 85% of my Android apps stored on the SD card(RAM). If my phone completely dies, I can just put the SD card into the new phone and re-install the info to the ROM. Everyday, apps and programs are calling more and more on usable memory. While 32gig maybe enough now, how much are you paying extra for that built in memory as opposed to purchasing a card if you run out of 16gig? We can see Clou...
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Versed

Jun 3, 2013, 8:26 PM
Slammer etal,
Oddly one of the biggest adopters of the HTC One are those iOS users moving over to Android. Its powerful, sleek, cheap for 32gb well designed and looks great. Many of those of what I just said play to those who like the iPhone. They're already well used to having no expandable memory and a sealed battery. Both the SGS4 and Htc One are excellent devices. I happened to have gone the One route and have not regreted it.

I purchased the Developers model strait from HTC. Yeah a nice nut to drop. There's pluses and minuses to both, they are the top tier in the Android line up at present. Also the One, even the AT&T offering can have their bootloader unlocked in a matter of minutes from HTC.

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Slammer

Jun 4, 2013, 8:05 AM
I absolutely love choice. I'm an advocate for retaining choices for the consumer. I also love everything about the HTC One except for the fixed battery. I have been a huge HTC fan and owner of their products for 6 years. Being a proponent of removeable batteries, I passed on the HTC Evo LTE to see what the next flagship device would be and if it would offer my specific want. It failed to deliver on this and I am forced to move on not just because of my need but, also because other seasoned HTC owners have made this same complaint known to HTC about the elimination of said accessible component and were somewhat ignored.

I was told not once, but twice by two different HTC Reps that claimed I was not alone in this. The last one even went as ...
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Versed

Jun 4, 2013, 8:15 PM
John,
Good point but rarely keep a phone that long, but other so, and understand that. Actually most do. But the last battery I bought for a phone was for my Nokia N95.

As far as SD card, that can even be far more an issue, not some much for storage, I don't horde video's and such, and 64gb is a lot of storage, but even thats not a reason. What the SD card allows me to do is to do nandroid back ups without having the onboard memory wiped if I flash a new rom. Yes, I can back up other ways, and do. But to return to the old rom in minutes, without having to do a computer back up makes life easier. But, I don't flash all that much and stock rom images are easy to come by. But, I love the phone, the screen, how it feels and w...
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DarkStar

Jun 3, 2013, 9:04 PM
I think you are confusing storage with memory(RAM). Storage is where all of your apps and saved data is. An SD card is also storage. Memory or RAM is the part of the phone that active programs are put in when you want to use them. The operating system makes a copy of the application from storage and places it in RAM because RAM is much faster than storage. But when you turn your phone off or don't use the app for a long time then the operating system takes that application out of RAM. It doesn't delete the app from storage.

Google removed the ability to store your app on an external SD card since ICS. You can root your phone and do that but we are talking about an average user and they probably wouldn't even know what rooting is.
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Versed

Jun 3, 2013, 10:37 PM
DarkStar,
I agree, there are many people who like ios, and don't care about walled gardens or other similsr crap, its there choice, doesn't make them drones, sheep, nor is it a reason to judge someone. Comes down to buy what you want or like..
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KOL4420

Jun 4, 2013, 10:13 AM
Haha yes I got Android back in 2007 for two simple reasons it was different and it had potential since multitasking has always been a big part of my life in just about everything it is the only phone that could satisfy that. Now that there are more options I am growing quite fond of the Lumia phones dont want to jump ship yet because of the lack of apps on windows 8. Soon I guess.
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