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BlackBerry 10 to Reach U.S. Stores in March

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I have a sneaky suspicion

Eee_err Eee_err

Jan 30, 2013, 12:17 PM
That this phone will do worse than we suspect. I wish it would have come out about a year or so ago. I think it is to late for Rim.
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Jellz

Jan 30, 2013, 12:25 PM
Worse than I suspect is a complete flop.
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smittycal

Jan 30, 2013, 12:28 PM
It will fail if the app store isnt up to par at launch. I think thats whats hurting Windows 8 phones now but that could destroy BB. The platform may be great...but if no ones making apps for them or there not that good..then its good night Gracie!
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Eee_err Eee_err

Jan 30, 2013, 12:29 PM
but it's what apps you can download that makes one better than the other. I think apple still has the best app store, than google is right behind it. Apps, that is all people want are apps.
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 30, 2013, 12:56 PM
smittycal said:
It will fail if the app store isnt up to par at launch. I think thats whats hurting Windows 8 phones now but that could destroy BB. The platform may be great...but if no ones making apps for them or there not that good..then its good night Gracie!


From my understanding there may be 70,000 apps so they are being built and ported over in great numbers.
As I know from having a couple of iPads around here, having a massive amount of apps to choose from isn't all it's cracked up to be either. There is lots of garbage to sort through to get the right ones.

I guess we will see.
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Eee_err Eee_err

Jan 30, 2013, 12:58 PM
You sound very optimistic about this new system and device. Are you going to get one?
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 30, 2013, 1:26 PM
Eee_err Eee_err said:
You sound very optimistic about this new system and device. Are you going to get one?


Yes, I want to try it out. I think there may be pent up demand for Blackberries at least from those that have them. Few people in their right mind would have gotten them in the last year because they knew these devices were coming out.
Biggest bonehead move RIM did was announce these phones a couple of years ago and not deliver. I think they felt they had to because they knew the market had changed.
Apple rarely announces anything until it's almost ready.
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Jarahawk

Jan 31, 2013, 3:07 AM
Exactly. I went with the Rezound over the 9930 because no way was I buying a BB7 device when they were teasing this. So I betrayed BB and dumped my 9630 for the Rezound. But I'm going back home in March.
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T Bone

Jan 30, 2013, 2:07 PM
There are already at least 70,000 Blackberry 10 apps available, and there are currently 110,000 Blackberry 7 apps available, so the vast majority of apps have already been converted over, and more will be presumably be coming in the next few months.
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 30, 2013, 12:39 PM
Eee_err Eee_err said:
That this phone will do worse than we suspect. I wish it would have come out about a year or so ago. I think it is to late for Rim.


I disagree somewhat.
If this phone had been out a year ago, you would have been looking at few apps and more bugs in the OS. It wasn't ready then.
The old regime would have released this phone earlier. The new one seems to be willing to hold in the reigns a bit and release when ready.
Apple has had a recent top end management shakeup addressing this very type of problem. If you release based on a timetable and not product readiness, it hurts no matter who you are.
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Eee_err Eee_err

Jan 30, 2013, 12:46 PM
The product should have been ready before it starting losing customer after customer. They should not have waited this long to design a phone and operating system to keep up with the 2 of the ones that are taking over. I have not seen a bb in the wild for months now, they are dying faster then you can count. With the cost of android phones so cheap and the apple fan boys bb is losing money and customers. When was the last time they even made money on a phone? It's to late for them, to much has changed in the game.

They will be just like the greatest company's of it's day. Lived on a platform that is outdated and refused to innovate at the right time. What happen to nokia, what happen to kodak, to little to late. Look how long it has take...
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 30, 2013, 1:19 PM
Blackberry never lost money that I am aware of. They lost market share in markets which is different.
They completely lost most of the US market share due to the explosion of two other platforms.

Take a look at whet is happening at Apple though. IOS has been around since 2007 and risks getting stale. Yes, it gets regular updates every year or so, but if you were using IOS in 2007, you know how to use it now. It's stock has been killed lately. I am already seeing "rise and fall of apple" articles.

Android may have an even bigger issue to deal with. I see this big empire built that Google never made any money off of and a situation similar to what windows desktops have been dealing with. They may not ever be able to do a total rewrite o...
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T Bone

Jan 30, 2013, 2:14 PM
RIM is not presently losing customers, they are GAINING them, there are more Blackberry users today than there were a year ago, and their profits are up also.

I'm not going to claim that everything on the Goodship Blackberry is hunky dorey, certainly it is not as good as 2007, but it is nowhere near as bad as the media like to claim. RIM has enough cash reserves built up that they could take losses every quarter for the next 5 years without running out of money. And 5 years should be enough time to turn things around.

I hang around on Blackberry forums like Crackberry.com and whatnot and I can tell you there are a large, very large contingent of Blackberry fans who have been holding off on upgrading for a year or longer,....you can e...
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marufio

Jan 31, 2013, 4:25 PM
Nobody really knows the state RIM is in now only they do. They could be in dire straits or have money in the bank no one knows. I think RIM is waiting to see how many BB10 phones they can sell this year to see if they even have a chance at staying in the game.
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