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Just what AT&T needs

Tofuchong

Jan 22, 2013, 9:59 AM
More spectrum they will never use. I just had a look at the FCC website and looked at the spectrum holdings of all the major carriers. As far as AT&T goes - WOW do they have LOTS of spectrum that isn't being used. I also checked T-Mobile, and from what I can see, they only have ONE SINGLE LICENCE for spectrum that is not being used.

Stark contrast between the two.
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Zpike

Jan 22, 2013, 10:21 AM
This is what big greedy companies do. They buy up stuff they never intend to use just so no one else can. Eventually if they control all the resources they can dictate the market. How else do you expect a pseudo-capitalist socialistic big government market to work?
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Tofuchong

Jan 22, 2013, 11:06 AM
No matter what anybody says, Socialism works. It's pretty obvious that the government has created it own spectrum shortage based on the way they action off and allow the companies to use this spectrum.

Maybe if the spectrum was TRULY government controlled, they could appoint or allot spectrum bands, in equal amounts based on the frequency, and penetration qualities, to each carrier Equally.

This would almost guarantee that spectrum alloted or appointed is actuially used to its full extent. It would make smaller, regional, or even "municipal" carriers have access to the specturm they need to offer decent service, and it would level the playing field to where simply offering "better service" wouldn't be enough, becuase all carrier...
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johnhr2

Jan 22, 2013, 11:45 AM
In most parts of a nation that would be ok, but in rural areas its better to have one or two companies build out and have roaming agreements. While in dense populated areas it would be better to have a network who has more people allowed more spectrum so they can sustain its customers.

I do not completely disagree with your point it works wonderful in theory and could work to certain extents. Every philosophy has Pro and Cons that need to be thought through before saying one is better than the other. I think a better way to go about changing our spectrum crisis is to slightly change instead of a radical change you are suggesting. Such the FCC put a limit on how much MHz per X thousands /million people per in a area for example the 700 M...
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Tofuchong

Jan 22, 2013, 12:47 PM
Yes! I love that Idea - Spectrum is appointed or allotted, or auctioned based on your actual customer base for any given area, and for ACTUAL needs only.

If they could somehow test and for certain determine - This many Mhz serves this many people, then your idea with this system would probably be best. I mean right now the big issue is wasted spectrum.

At&t has tonnes of 2.3Ghz spectrum ( I think that's the band) , it doesnt matter if its crappy, they arent using it or touching it at all, its sitting there, and wasting away, while any other carrier could be actively using it to serve people and help get rid of this spectrum crunch.
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AtTheMet

Jan 23, 2013, 11:32 AM
Tofuchong said:
Yes! I love that Idea - Spectrum is appointed or allotted, or auctioned based on your actual customer base for any given area, and for ACTUAL needs only.

If they could somehow test and for certain determine - This many Mhz serves this many people, then your idea with this system would probably be best. I mean right now the big issue is wasted spectrum.

At&t has tonnes of 2.3Ghz spectrum ( I think that's the band) , it doesnt matter if its crappy, they arent using it or touching it at all, its sitting there, and wasting away, while any other carrier could be actively using it to serve people and help get rid of this spectrum crunch.


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Zpike

Jan 23, 2013, 3:16 PM
Yes, running the entire world off of superconductors works wonderfully in theory too. But we're no closer to that pipe dream than we were 20 years ago, unless of course you can convince the rest of the world that eskimo is the way to go. Many things sound great in theory, but external circumstances make them impossible. In the case of socialism the external circumstance is people. But since social structures are comprised only of people, socialism is an impossible social structure.
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arox413

Jan 22, 2013, 1:22 PM
So no matter the evidence socialism works. Thats a great way to think about things. Usually you know you need proof to back up things like that but I guess that doesn't matter. Thats what people say when all evidence points to their pet theories are wrong. Would love to see any proof of socialism working anywhere.
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jhr2112

Jan 22, 2013, 2:58 PM
Socialism works very well in the Scandinavian countries plus they are the most educated and happy people on earth. Travel to Norway sometime, a real eye opener..
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arox413

Jan 22, 2013, 3:12 PM
If you think what they have is socialism you don't really know what socialism is.
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jhr2112

Jan 22, 2013, 3:51 PM
It's democratic socialism, not communism.
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arox413

Jan 22, 2013, 4:26 PM
Well let me ask you this do you think they are going about it the right way in this country?
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Jarahawk

Jan 24, 2013, 5:01 AM
Hell no! We need another bloodless revolution like the one which transitioned this nation ftom the Articles of Confederation to our current Constitution. We simply need to scrap it. The main thing which needs to go away is the Two Party system. It simply doesn't work. The second problem is the Senate. It is silly that Montana has the same representation there as California. That is undemocratic not to mention foolish. I understand it was a necessary compromise to get the Rhode Islands and Delewares to ratify the Constitution but it has gone on long enough. Of course the Electoral College would go away for the same reason. We need direct representation by the people. Also election day should be a Holiday with all polls open at the ...
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arox413

Jan 24, 2013, 8:05 AM
I may not go as far as that but I do agree that the electorial college needs to go and that the primaries should be held on the same day or atleast very close together. I also think there need to be more rules about who can and can't vote. I don't want to keep anyone from voting but you atleast need to know something about whats going on in the world.
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dlmjr

Jan 24, 2013, 2:23 PM
Jarahawk said:
Hell no! We need another bloodless revolution like the one which transitioned this nation ftom the Articles of Confederation to our current Constitution. We simply need to scrap it. The main thing which needs to go away is the Two Party system. It simply doesn't work. The second problem is the Senate. It is silly that Montana has the same representation there as California. That is undemocratic not to mention foolish. I understand it was a necessary compromise to get the Rhode Islands and Delewares to ratify the Constitution but it has gone on long enough. Of course the Electoral College would go away for the same reason. We need direct representation by the people. Also election day should
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Jarahawk

Jan 26, 2013, 12:14 AM
"Let's start with the fact that this country was not founded as a Democracy"

No. This Constitutional government wasn't. Which is what I said.
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Zpike

Jan 23, 2013, 3:25 PM
So, does Scandinavia have a self sufficient economy, or is it another economy that is sucking the life out of free markets like China does? If capitalism fails, will Scandinavia be ok? Because if communism fails capitalism will thrive. Eventually capitalism will thrive anyway. You can only cheat the market for so long. Laws are laws. You can put lots of fuel in an airplane, but eventually it will run out of fuel and gravity will have its say.
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dlmjr

Jan 24, 2013, 2:29 PM
Socialism or communism only works in very, very small groups and those who advocate it always tend to ignore the human condition.
I once had a guy who emigrated from a socialist state working under me.
He did as little as possible. I called him on it one day.. his reply...'they pretend to pay me, I pretend to work'....
I have zero reason to 'work' if I get exactly what the person beside me gets for producing less. Human nature.
The only reason the former Soviet Union had any scientific advances at all was because the created a priviledged class of scientists, otherwise they had no reason to excell.
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LibtardExposer

Jan 22, 2013, 3:05 PM
No it doesn't work. That's why the USA is starting to fall.
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Jayshmay

Jan 22, 2013, 3:41 PM
Good luck to us all in these next 4yrs.
I don't know how this country is going to handle
$20+ trillion in federal debt, I really don't.
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arox413

Jan 22, 2013, 4:09 PM
You aren't the only one. I know its not fun when other people have more than you but that doesn't give you a right to their money. Far too many of us expect a free ride anymore.
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Jayshmay

Jan 22, 2013, 4:15 PM
These 48m+ on welfare are being tought & encouraged to be lazy. My mother was on welfare in the 80's, but she went to school, became a perilegal, and got off welfare.
And now she has been in her own house for 20+yrs,
since Thanksgiving of 92.
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arox413

Jan 22, 2013, 4:26 PM
Way to go mom thats awesome
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Jayshmay

Jan 22, 2013, 4:38 PM
So I notice your new on Phonescoop.
I've been coming to this site for nearly 8yrs.
But recently have been going to other websites
such as Android Central, Phandroid, Android Authority.
I hope to get enough OT on my job to be able to afford the new Galaxy S4 when it comes out in May/June.
I have Unlimited data on Verizon, so I'll have to pay the outrageous retail price in order to keep my unlimited data.
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arox413

Jan 22, 2013, 4:45 PM
I've been coming here for a while but haven't posted before
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Jayshmay

Jan 22, 2013, 4:47 PM
I started posting cause for work I'm a bored security guard and I thought posting online would help me be less bored.
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arox413

Jan 23, 2013, 9:04 AM
I've been thinking about posting for a long time but took certain comments for me to finally do it lol.
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Jayshmay

Jan 23, 2013, 12:30 PM
Do you work for a wireless carrier?
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arox413

Jan 23, 2013, 1:39 PM
Yep Embarassed
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Jayshmay

Jan 23, 2013, 1:43 PM
Does that mean your biased, and your paycheck dictates your opinions about wireless carriers?

At least that's the impression I get from most wireless industry employees, especially on this site.
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arox413

Jan 23, 2013, 1:56 PM
No it does not. I work for one but have my service from another, mostly due to my employer not having service anywhere near my home until recently
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Jayshmay

Jan 23, 2013, 1:57 PM
Hmm,...T-Mobile?
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arox413

Jan 23, 2013, 2:12 PM
nope at&t but have verizon for service
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Jayshmay

Jan 23, 2013, 2:15 PM
Yeah, I've been with Verizon since March, 2010.
I'm not impressed with Verizon at all, their all hype &
marketing. My phone switches to 3G way, way too much.
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arox413

Jan 23, 2013, 2:24 PM
My biggest complaint with them is their upgrade and plan requirements now. If att gets service going well enough near my home I'll be going back. But I will admit that I think Verizon has a wider variety of phones from some manufacturers that i like more
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Jayshmay

Jan 23, 2013, 2:28 PM
I'm hoping to get the Galaxy S4 in May/June Very Happy

I'm interested in the increased power efficiency that
Exynos 5 brings, and faster webpage load times that
newer phone can do.

My current smartphone is the Samsung Droid Charge.
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arox413

Jan 23, 2013, 2:33 PM
I have a iPhone 4S and a S III I like them both but was disappointed with the S III's battery life. Was spoiled from the iPhone but still not as good as I'd hoped
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Jayshmay

Jan 23, 2013, 2:36 PM
I thought the Qualcomm S4 processor is suppose to be
more energy efficient?
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arox413

Jan 23, 2013, 2:51 PM
Supposed to be but have to say I was disappointed with the battery life. I know it's not an iPhone but with similar use my SIII would be atleast 20 to 30% lower on battery life than my 4s
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Jayshmay

Jan 23, 2013, 2:56 PM
Hmm,. . .well, I'll never go the way of the fruit company.
I don't like Apple, I don't like smartphone where the battery isn't user accessible.

Samsung came up with a lot of good ideas with the
software on the S3, and I look forward to see what
innovative ideas Samsung comes up with for the Galaxy S4.
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arox413

Jan 23, 2013, 3:28 PM
I'm not so picky and even though I don't care for apple I do like my phone and to be honest I've never had a need to get to my iPhones battery. But will be interested to see what they come out with next in the galaxy line
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Jayshmay

Jan 23, 2013, 3:31 PM
Two more months, the S4 is suppose to be announced at the end of March in an Unpacked event.
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Jarahawk

Jan 24, 2013, 5:11 AM
I don't like that I cannot swich the S3 from LTE to EVDO.
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Jarahawk

Jan 24, 2013, 5:06 AM
That is funny. Whatever would she have done without welfare when she had it? How do we decide who will only use it as a hand up rather than a permanent lifestyle?
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DarkStar

Jan 23, 2013, 1:55 PM
Really? You think the United States Government can control anything properly? Have you heard of Medicare and Social Security? Those are government controlled agencies and they aren't working because the Government can govern them properly.

Try thinking about things before you post stuff.
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arox413

Jan 23, 2013, 2:19 PM
But its the US Govt' they can do anything don't you know??? And people wonder why they govt' never has money or why things are usually cheaper that aren't govt run.
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Zpike

Jan 23, 2013, 3:12 PM
>>Maybe if the spectrum was TRULY government controlled, they could appoint or allot spectrum bands, in equal amounts based on the frequency, and penetration qualities, to each carrier Equally.

Yes that makes perfect sense because there obviously aren't any greedy people in government. Those people only exists in corporations. The problem obviously isn't that people are corrupt and that too much power in the hands of one person is a bad thing. No the problem is that corporations corrupt people; and the only answer is obviously big government.
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T Bone

Jan 22, 2013, 11:52 AM
at&t has a spectrum shortage, which is why their rollout of LTE has been so ridiculously, absurdly slow.
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Mark_S

Jan 23, 2013, 4:04 PM
Hopefully this all gets put to truly productive use.
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