Samsung Joins Forces With Kodiak For PTT

nextel18 said:
2-3 seconds works better then nextel? lol nextel is sub second. how is 2-3 seconds better then sub seconds? if it is lets do business.

Nextel is sub-second in the most ideal of situations. I had Nextel for about 6 months.

if that is the case, then kodiak wont be 2-3 seconds in many areas and perhaps could be more then that. (it obviously wont be less)

by the way nextel is sub-second in every condition. why? becuase it doesnt use a lot of the bandwidth on the tower. that is why its quick and instant and reliable. if you would have nextel for 6 months you would know that.

nextel18 said:
if that is the case, then kodiak wont be 2-3 seconds in many areas and perhaps could be more then that. (it obviously wont be less)

by the way nextel is sub-second in every condition. why? becuase it doesnt use a lot of the bandwidth on the tower. that is why its quick and instant and reliable. if you would have nextel for 6 months you would know that.

So now I'm lying about using Nextel's service for 6 months. Great. I used it and at times the connection was longer than sub-second. Or am I lying about that too? Grow up and start acting like the 21 year old you supposedly are.

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nextel18 said:
if that is the case, then kodiak wont be 2-3 seconds in many areas and perhaps could be more then that. (it obviously wont be less)

by the way nextel is sub-second in every condition. why? becuase it doesnt use a lot of the bandwidth on the tower. that is why its quick and instant and reliable. if you would have nextel for 6 months you would know that.

So now I'm lying about using Nextel's service for 6 months. Great. I used it and at times the connection was longer than sub-second. Or am I lying about that too? Grow up and start acting like the 21 year old you supposedly are.

If he would have read carefully, the initial connection takes ...
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there ya go, you answered your own questions.

nextel18 said:
there ya go, you answered your own questions.

Sure you're not answering the wrong post again? Glad you agree I'm correct.

It's better than nextel's because it's not nextel's. Not only that, you'll never here "the nextel subscriber you are trying to reach is currently out of the area". So even if it's a 2-3 second lag, it will work in more places. 😁

Also, that 2-3 seconds is only the initial setup. The PTT is instantaneous after the connection is set up.

terrible statment to say.. "the nextel subscriber you are trying to reach is currently out of the area". let me explain why. that has nothing to do with PUSH TO TALK OR DIRECT CONNECT. that is when a nextel subscriber is either on DATA or on DC that is when you will hear that message. so thats flawed.


"So even if it's a 2-3 second lag"

thats with other push to talk solutions including kodiak's but nextel's is sub second.
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your statment above is flawed. so please know something before you say it. again, there is no corrolation between direct connect and that message. its sub-second sorry.

Nextel's message should read: "The nextel subscriber u are trying to reach can't get a signal, even in his/her own home. Please leave a message and he/she will respond after we deliver the message in a day or two"

my nextel's work perfectly in my house. also the voice mail and messages i get far less then 1 or 2 days. its more like in a few seconds.

nextel18 said:
my nextel's work perfectly in my house. also the voice mail and messages i get far less then 1 or 2 days. its more like in a few seconds.

Right, right. That's why Nextel recently announced a glitch in their system was causing text messages to bounce around for 2 or 3 days before being delivered. We're not stupid, you know.

really? well, show a link to prove that? by the way, the majority of the time its in a few seconds that the nextel user gets a voicemail and text message.

you are very random with what you are saying. i am saying there is no delay you said there was a glitch. lol thats irrelevant.

nextel18 said:
really? well, show a link to prove that? by the way, the majority of the time its in a few seconds that the nextel user gets a voicemail and text message.

you are very random with what you are saying. i am saying there is no delay you said there was a glitch. lol thats irrelevant.

Show a link? Are you blind or something? Rich only posted this information for everyone to see. Get with the program. Nextel's servers were overwhelmed, so text messages were having difficulty being delivered. They were in the process of adding more filters to fix the problem.

yea, you say something that isnt true. you cant show a link becuase there is none. whats up with these excuses? over and over and over again. you said the same thing with stm, qcom, nokia and ti. all i hear are excuses from you and oh yea, name calling. i guess thats your fortee.

you say about a text message PROBLEM, well i am saying the majority there arent problems, and when they arent it takes a few seconds to send messages via txt and voicemail.

nextel18 said:
yea, you say something that isnt true. you cant show a link becuase there is none. whats up with these excuses? over and over and over again. you said the same thing with stm, qcom, nokia and ti. all i hear are excuses from you and oh yea, name calling. i guess thats your fortee.

you say about a text message PROBLEM, well i am saying the majority there arent problems, and when they arent it takes a few seconds to send messages via txt and voicemail.

And I'm saying that news about this glitch in Nextel's text messaging system was posted. Just look it up. Better yet...google it. It's there...Nextel had problems so they had to set up extra filters to deal with the problem until it could be fixe...
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

waste of bandwidth.

nextel18 said:
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

waste of bandwidth.

By all means, keep posting stuff like this.

well you keep on posting things that arent true and that you have no idea of what you are talking about so of course my statment is true.

nextel18 said:
terrible statment to say.. "the nextel subscriber you are trying to reach is currently out of the area". let me explain why. that has nothing to do with PUSH TO TALK OR DIRECT CONNECT. that is when a nextel subscriber is either on DATA or on DC that is when you will hear that message. so thats flawed.


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Uh, actually that's not flawed at all. I've called friends and listened to that message as their phones were sitting there doing nothing. So, who's flawed now?

its very flawed my friend. that message only says it if your on data and direct connect. sorry 🙂

nextel18 said:
its very flawed my friend. that message only says it if your on data and direct connect. sorry 🙂

Except for when my buddies' phones were sitting there doing nothing when the message occurred. Great.

i dont belive that sorry. 🙂

nextel18 said:
terrible statment to say.. "the nextel subscriber you are trying to reach is currently out of the area". let me explain why. that has nothing to do with PUSH TO TALK OR DIRECT CONNECT. that is when a nextel subscriber is either on DATA or on DC that is when you will hear that message. so thats flawed.


"So even if it's a 2-3 second lag"

thats with other push to talk solutions including kodiak's but nextel's is sub second.
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your statment above is flawed. so please know something before you say it. again, there is no corrolation between direct connect and that message. its sub-second sorry.

Actually, the flaw is yours. As I pointed out in another post which you ignored, the ...
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i dont care about intra calling. its about set up calling. there is a delay. thats it. done.

by the way kodiak works on any network. but anyway, your statment is flawed. why? becuase what verizon and sprint had was very good becuase it was over a bigger area then nextel's network. but guess what? still no impact. thats the same situation that will happen with cingular's system. it will be no impact to nextel.

i know it perfectly. alltel has kodiak too, my friend. and alltel is basically in the same network as nextel partners, and they said (nxtp) that there has been no impact to their business when it comes to push to talk.

therfore YOUR STATEMENTS are all flawed, and that cingular WILL NOT have a better push to talk then nextel,...
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nextel18 said:
i dont care about intra calling. its about set up calling. there is a delay. thats it. done.

by the way kodiak works on any network. but anyway, your statment is flawed. why? becuase what verizon and sprint had was very good becuase it was over a bigger area then nextel's network. but guess what? still no impact. thats the same situation that will happen with cingular's system. it will be no impact to nextel.

i know it perfectly. alltel has kodiak too, my friend. and alltel is basically in the same network as nextel partners, and they said (nxtp) that there has been no impact to their business when it comes to push to talk.

therfore YOUR STATEMENTS are all flawed, and that cingular WILL NOT have

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yea your wrong.

kodiak's system is better than nextel's?

hahha. sub second (nextel) vs 2-3 seconds for kodiak? hmm lol.. plus if you dont have any service with nextel and have the off network push to talk phones you have a radius of up to 6 miles. so yea.

limited use? lol it can be used nationwide and internationally. oh yea thats limited use? lol oh come on.

"If nextel's PTT wasn't on the way to being obsolete, then they would have no need for Qchat and a merger with Sprint"

its not being obsolete. they are putting qchat on the rev a network becuase you cant put direct connect on the sprint network. i am not sure if you know this but nextel might just keep their network for push to talk centric customers. so yea, the fla...
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nextel18 said:
yea your wrong.

kodiak's system is better than nextel's?

hahha. sub second (nextel) vs 2-3 seconds for kodiak? hmm lol.. plus if you dont have any service with nextel and have the off network push to talk phones you have a radius of up to 6 miles. so yea.

limited use? lol it can be used nationwide and internationally. oh yea thats limited use? lol oh come on.

"If nextel's PTT wasn't on the way to being obsolete, then they would have no need for Qchat and a merger with Sprint"

its not being obsolete. they are putting qchat on the rev a network becuase you cant put direct connect on the sprint network. i am not sure if you know this but nextel might just keep their network for push to talk

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no iden, has plenty of life left on its plate. they are merging with sprint becuase of clients, spectrum, and they already have DO rolling out. no point of paying twice. sprint wanted nextel becuase of their high paying customers.

nextel's ptt was dying? hahahahahah. thats funny.

nextel18 said:
no iden, has plenty of life left on its plate. they are merging with sprint becuase of clients, spectrum, and they already have DO rolling out. no point of paying twice. sprint wanted nextel becuase of their high paying customers.

nextel's ptt was dying? hahahahahah. thats funny.

iDen is dying a very slow death. Nextel knows it can't expand its customer base or implement the types of data services it wants using iDen...the technology won't support it. Sprint, however, has CDMA expertise, 1900mhz spectrum for data, and plenty of bandwidth for those millions of extra customers coming both companies' way.

lol.. iden is not dying. thats funny. it can put WIDEN on the network, of course its not ev-do but its good enough for now. anyway, nextel can do flarion, td-cdma, wimax, and ev-do by itself too. so with or without the merger they will be fine.

i forgot to add to that other one to you, but that is only when you call the nextel subscriber it says that number. if you direct connect them or push to talk them it says direct connect use busy or something of that sort. sorry. again, your statment is flawed and not true.

You get no love nextel18! Seriously, Nextel PTT ROCKS on the IDEN network; that's what it was designed for. But there are other players; I work for one of them! Our initial setup does lag, but then instantaneous after that. How does this affect customer? Very rarely are both parties utilizing 2-way in same room! If driving, may take a few seconds to answer phone from hip, passenger seat, dash, etc., thus eliminating 1-2 sec "delay." C'mon, how many people are walking around with their phone in hand, one finger on the PTT button?
And what happens when my company buys, er, "merges" with Nextel? How long will IDEN last? Sprint has already said they are favoring CDMA standard. There is no choice but to make PTT better on the CDMA or G...
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i already said. QCHAT on the rev a network. qchat, right now, has a latency of 1.5 seconds and wont be deployed till atleast 2007-2008 on rev a and they have a lot of time to perfect it.

by the way, nextel said that they will keep iden for as long as they can past the 2008 time frame for PUSH TO TALK centric users. we shall see though. they will have to see if they will be able to get a ROI on it.

Again, is latency really a problem if the time is less than 2 seconds? And we are really only talking latency for the INITIAL set-up.
If Sprint or Sprint-Nextel or Sprextel, whatever they plan to call themselves plan to move voice from IDEN to CDMA, what purpose does IDEN have in today's business environment? If IDEN eventually only supports PTT, who would want to carry a seperate device for Voice, when everything is headed towards a single-device methodology.
Agreed, it is still early to speculate. Len Lauer gave a pretty good insight on what's to come back in March in New Orleans, but it could change.
BTW, there is a HUGE push to have Rev A in certain markets prior to Q1/2006! To coincide with finalization of the merger. Again, tha...
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"Again, is latency really a problem if the time is less than 2 seconds?"

according to what nextel says and analysts say yes. and look at sprint, verizon and alltel's gains they arent even impacting nextel what-so-ever. what does that tell you? more people are getting nextel's direct connect. (with boost and core)

whats the purpose of having iden for just push to talk service? becuase what if you dont want voice and all you need is push to talk. those people would include; smr providers, emts, ambulences, gov, fbi, etc..

" IDEN eventually only supports PTT, who would want to carry a seperate device for Voice, when everything is headed towards a single-device methodology."

why not? most smr providers, fbi agents and things of tha...
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nextel18 said:
"Again, is latency really a problem if the time is less than 2 seconds?"

according to what nextel says and analysts say yes. and look at sprint, verizon and alltel's gains they arent even impacting nextel what-so-ever. what does that tell you? more people are getting nextel's direct connect. (with boost and core)

whats the purpose of having iden for just push to talk service? becuase what if you dont want voice and all you need is push to talk. those people would include; smr providers, emts, ambulences, gov, fbi, etc..

" IDEN eventually only supports PTT, who would want to carry a seperate device for Voice, when everything is headed towards a single-device methodology."

why not? most smr prov

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both cdma and i know whats going on in this industry, unfort you dont. 🙂

nextel18 said:
both cdma and i know whats going on in this industry, unfort you dont. 🙂

There's not one person on this site who would agree with you. And apparently then disagreed with you so vehemently on HoFo and ideninsider that they decided to do away with you. So much for that thought.

again, thats what you think, unfort i dont care what you think.

nextel18 said:
again, thats what you think, unfort i dont care what you think.

No, no, no...this isn't what I think, this is what Howard and WiFiMatt told me. You know...the owners of HoFo.com and ideninsider.com? THEY told me you'd been banned. So, it isn't what I think...it's what THEY know.

lol.. this again?

what a waste of bandwidth.